1199a update

[7Stones]

I realize there are other threads focused on 1199a's but it seems like every thread becomes distracted in short order.

We made it past the computer and I am watching daily for 1199a updates. Has anyone heard anything recently?

The last word I had was over a week ago.

Best of luck to everyone playing the waiting game.

Jon

[waterboy1]

Thank You, 1199a's only. Still waiting

[ENG121]

The web has been very quiet. Are there any new 1199a updates out there? Inquiring minds want to know.

[BC79er]

Probably won't see any until the weekend. Or maybe they'll go back to the Tuesday updates from years past.

[ktb9780]

Let the clicking begin in earnest. They are moving as of 4:00AM today.;)

[missberta53]

I got my 2007 award number on my old 1199 this morning. Thanks everyone for all the good advice on this forum.

[Capt790]

Still nothing for us yet...no e-mail, no 1199a update, nothing. I'm guessing we made it past the computer since we haven't gotten a dear john but still...starting to get that bad old feeling from years past :(

[chief1120]

Still nothing for us yet either...no e-mail, no 1199a update. This has been the same way for the last three years. I even reduced it down to just one item to alow the cost benifit to look better.:confused:

[LVFD301]

Still nothinghere.....

[ENG121]

Kurt, Brian, Earl or any of the other guru's might be able to answer this best, but are they sending all the 1199a's out at once or are they just sending them in groups? Seems to me like they do them in phases, so don't count yourselve's out yet! Keep the faith!

[ktb9780]

Folks they go in phases so don;t fret here. Be patient. Remember some people in here just got 1199a updates to their 2006 grant! :eek:

[ktb9780]

Must have been a small batch today I only found two clients ourtof about 100 checked.:confused:

[ENG121]

Kurt.......Thanks for the quick response and moral support!

[ktb9780]

Kurt.......Thanks for the quick response and moral support!

Hang tough, keep your fingers crossed, go to beach or mountains and drink a few brewskis to escape the August heat and chill out for awhile. It is a long way from over.;)

[Edmeston2]

Today we got our 1199A for a new pumper/tanker. This is our first grant since the program started so it sure feels good.

[Greenacres2]

Hang tough, keep your fingers crossed, go to beach or mountains and drink a few brewskis to escape the August heat and chill out for awhile. It is a long way from over.;)

Or go to Houston, TX for your CEDAP training. Lost luggage, computer problems, work issues at my "day job"--none will seem important as my FD puts their new PID's to work and my Haz-Mat team uses its HazMat ID for the first time!!

Spend the quiet days looking beyond AFG.

earl

[BARNY750]

We received the 10 questions on August 14th. I found them on the 15th and sent them back in 15 minutes. They opened it the next day. Im still waiting on the 1199A. Im about to go nuts. We need a new engine in a bad way. I guess I am just impatient. Good luck to everyone.

[jhl81791123]

How do you know if you made it past the computer. I need to know this.

[michaeld327]

What is this 1099 update every is looking for? Someone please explain?

[kprsn1]

We received the 10 questions on August 14th. I found them on the 15th and sent them back in 15 minutes. They opened it the next day. Im still waiting on the 1199A. Im about to go nuts. We need a new engine in a bad way. I guess I am just impatient. Good luck to everyone.

Barny, congrats on the 10 questions! When you get that new engine I'll be sure to stop by next time I'm up there for a softball game to take a look at it. Nothing nicer than a shiny new engine!:D

[foresttruck]

Just got an email to update my 1099 with an 2007 award # on it is this good?????????

[onebugle]

How do you know if you made it past the computer. I need to know this.

You would have already recieved the DJ (about 2 weeks ago) if you had not made it past the computer. No DJ means that your application made it to Peer Review.

[onebugle]

What is this 1099 update every is looking for? Someone please explain?

The 1199A is the information required by the feds to set up for direct deposit for requested funds. The 1199A is also an indicator of a potential award and can come in 2 ways.

1) If your department has not recieved a grant before you can check for the Update 1199A in the drop down menu (ACTION) of your 2007 application. If it's there that is a very good sign.

2) If you are a previous winner, go to the application that you recieved your first grant. Go to the drop down menu (ACTION) and View 1199A. You will see a reference to the 2007 grant (along with other winning applications) with your application number. Again a very good sign.

This again is an indicator of a potential award. If there is none, it doesn't mean that you will not be funded. It's a long process and could take time.

You are in the ballgame, until you recieve one of those dreaded DJ's.

[BC79er]

Just got an email to update my 1099 with an 2007 award # on it is this good?????????

Yes, it would be. :) On the road to funding....

[svfd16]

Bugle, I keep hearing things like "You will see a reference to the 2007 grant (along with other winning applications) with your application number". When I look at our winning 2006 grant I see the 2006 app number. Will that number change to 2007 app number or will there be two numbers listed, the 2006 app number and the 2007 app number. I just want to make sure I not missing anything. I wrote the grant, but the chief gets the email notifications and I think I check for the update more than he checks his emails. Tell what I am supposed to see. Went for replacement of failing 5 inch hose and dry hydrant hardware.

[onebugle]

Bugle, I keep hearing things like "You will see a reference to the 2007 grant (along with other winning applications) with your application number". When I look at our winning 2006 grant I see the 2006 app number. Will that number change to 2007 app number or will there be two numbers listed, the 2006 app number and the 2007 app number. I just want to make sure I not missing anything. I wrote the grant, but the chief gets the email notifications and I think I check for the update more than he checks his emails. Tell what I am supposed to see. Went for replacement of failing 5 inch hose and dry hydrant hardware.

There will be 2 numbers listed the 2006 and the 2007.

Example on how it will appear when you "View 1199A" on the winning grant.

Reference Award Number: EMW-2003-FG-06xxx
Reference Award Number: EMW-2007-FO-03xxx
Reference Award Number: EMW-2005-FG-05xxx
Reference Award Number: EMW-2004-FG-05xxx

[ncvfc17]

looked like that example;)

[BARNY750]

Barny, congrats on the 10 questions! When you get that new engine I'll be sure to stop by next time I'm up there for a softball game to take a look at it. Nothing nicer than a shiny new engine!:D

THANKS. Did you come down to Prairie Days last weekend and play in the tourney?

Well I looked at our 2005 award 1199A and the 2007 application is listed. So just waiting on the phone call from Shimkus. Let the fun begin...:D

[kprsn1]

THANKS. Did you come down to Prairie Days last weekend and play in the tourney?

I wasn't aware of the Prairie Days so I didn't make it. I usually just coach my daughter's team and don't play much softball. That drive down the St. Peter blacktop from Shobonier just about kills me for some reason.:p

Well I looked at our 2005 award 1199A and the 2007 application is listed. So just waiting on the phone call from Shimkus. Let the fun begin...:D

Man, I keep waiting for mine to look like that. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Congrats again on your upcoming award!

[FFChrisK200]

We received our 1199A on Tuesday, 8/28 and sent it in right away. We have applied for grants in all previous years, but never received. Can someone explain the processes that will happen following this (10qs, etc) as well as your personal opinion on liklihood of getting the grant.

Thanks

Chris

[wtfd2940]

Its seems like the 1199's have really slowed down. Any theories as to what is going on with them?

[ktb9780]

Its seems like the 1199's have really slowed down. Any theories as to what is going on with them?
At this point, your guess is as good as mine here.:confused:

[ktb9780]

We received our 1199A on Tuesday, 8/28 and sent it in right away. We have applied for grants in all previous years, but never received. Can someone explain the processes that will happen following this (10qs, etc) as well as your personal opinion on liklihood of getting the grant.

Thanks

Chris


You may get a call for a reduction depending upon the prices you requested or items requested; be prepared to accept them if they are reasonable but don't have a knee jerk reaction. If oyu have the 10 qs and 1199a update it can be a few weeks to a few months beofre oyu are actually "announced"; be patient they work ontheir own schedule. AT this point you are at a 98% level that you will receive an award.;)

[FFChrisK200]

Received 1199a and sent in.
Received 10q's and sent in.
Received reduction and accepted.

Can someone explain whats next, timeframe, and probability of award at this point?

Thanks

[7Stones]

I sure hope the Tuesday/ Friday routine holds true. The stats look like we are roughly half way through this year's allocations and I know there are a lot of us still holding on to hope for an 1199a update. I am glad to have made it through the computer scoring but waiting week after week is taking its toll.

Congratulations to all 240 new ward winners this week!

Jon

[ktb9780]

Received 1199a and sent in.
Received 10q's and sent in.
Received reduction and accepted.

Can someone explain whats next, timeframe, and probability of award at this point?

Thanks

Received 1199a and sent in. First Step
Received 10q's and sent in. Second Step
Received reduction and accepted. Third Step

You should be announced quite soon; patience as they work on their own schedule but, your in the money soon guy.Congrats.:cool:

[7Stones]

All right. I am back to wondering where the 1199a have gone. I have not heard any significant chatter on line in two weeks. It seems like the last couple of 1199a rounds were small. Does anyone have any information that I could exploit as hopeful or positive? I would sure like to see some more action from DHS. This waiting is tough...and with half the 1199a's out already, it is hard to not turn to pessimistic.

Thanks. Jon

[befferk]

This waiting is tough...and with half the 1199a's out already, it is hard to not turn to pessimistic.

Wondering myself too, but I was looking at it as I am glad "only" half of the 1199a's are out. I was even more pessimistic than you - I thought they were almost all out and we were just waiting on a DJ letter. So I guess I see the glass as half full :D

Beth

[ktb9780]

Beth & Jon,

You are going to wear out your hands wringing them. Relax! Many more awrads and 1199a updates to go still.:D

[7Stones]

Thanks Kurt. After attending your seminar in Milwaukee I realized that my narrative last year left much room for improvement. Basically my cost:benefit ratio stunk. Nonetheless we are still in the running and we really need the equipment requested. So I have worn my fingers down to nubs on the keyboard checking for updates three or ten times a day (especially in Tuesdays and Thursdays) only to find nothing has changed. I would feel more confident if I had written a better narrative. Our needs were all top priorities so we made it through the computer but who knows what the peer reviewers thought?

Thanks for your encouragement. I look forward to the opportunity to write my FP@S this fall and to next year's AFG equipped with the knowledge I gained at the seminar.

On the positive side we have 65 positive comments on our MyHometown Helper grant! Maybe that will materialize into something positive. I am also waiting to hear about our CEDAP and FM Global requests. Thanks for the "open grant" resource on the Chief Supply site!

I hope you have a great day.

Jon

[demon641]

got our update to our 1199A form this past Wednesday morning. Now the real wait begins.

[kprsn1]

I am also waiting to hear about our CEDAP and FM Global requests. Thanks for the "open grant" resource on the Chief Supply site!

7Stones, glad you mentioned that. We were awarded and received our check a week ago from FM Global for smoke and carbon monoxide detectors.

[7Stones]

It has been a long time since I have heard anything about 1199a's. I met with members of a neighboring department this morning for breakfast and they are in the same situation...made it through the computer and then NOTHING!

Does anyone have anything new to add? Any idea about what DHS is up to? From other threads it looks like the DJs are still a few rounds away and that half the 1199a's have been issued. Any insight would be helpful one way or the other.

Jon

[firechief47]

No updates this week (yet)? I've gone so bananas that I've started eating the peel!

[ENG121]

Not too much chatter on the forum considering the 11th Round of awards and another supplemental round. Has there been any movement out there with 1199A updates? What do the Guru's think about the lack of activity? Could it be that they are waiting to update more until after the 2006 supplemental rounds are done?

[BC79er]

Probably not waiting on 2006, just waiting. Tuesdays & Saturdays have been the magic ones of late, could just be that since the releases are small in number that no one here is finding any. I was tired from driving back and forth across Kansas all week so by the time I hit the hotel I was still only spot checking some logins. Might get to it tomorrow night as an excuse to not work on the honey-do list....

[shinds]

Is there anyone out there that has a clue as to what's happening with the 1199A's?

[BC79er]

Should see some either today or tomorrow, that's my best guesstimate.

[plongsfd17]

Any movement on 1199a will be probley tomorrow seeing today is a federal holiday.

[BC79er]

Forgot about that until I went to the PO Box. Us self-employed folks don't get those. :)

[WestTaylorFd29]

Shoot i would love to hear something soon but like everybody else im waiting

[LVFD301]

On the positive side we have 65 positive comments on our MyHometown Helper grant!
Jon

Tell us which one it is, and we call can leave more postive comments!

[ktb9780]

MAybe if we all cross our fingers, toes, eyes adn we think collectivly positive at the same time we will get the grant Gods moving again on these today! All togther now, assume the Lotus position and chant :

OOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMMMM!:D

[7Stones]

Tell us which one it is, and we call can leave more postive comments!

Thanks for the offer. The grant window closed on 9/30/07 so they are not accepting anymore comments. If you want to see our request you can see it at:

http://www.myhometownhelper.com/ViewProject.aspx?id=27748

You will have to ignore my last comments. I tried to update the page and it kept entering my post. I contacted Hamburger Helper to have them delete two of the comments but could not. I did not mean to artifically inflate our posts.

Thank you again for your offer to help.

Jon

[7Stones]

Kurt,

I tried the LOTUS position. Great. Now I am stuck and I cannot get up to reach my computer to check for my 1199a's. My OOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMMMM! has turned into "Help, I've meditated and I cannot get up!".

Oh well, back to prayer. I haven't prayed this hard since my algebra test freshmen year of high school!

Jon

[ktb9780]

Kurt,

I tried the LOTUS position. Great. Now I am stuck and I cannot get up to reach my computer to check for my 1199a's. My OOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMMMM! has turned into "Help, I've meditated and I cannot get up!".

Oh well, back to prayer. I haven't prayed this hard since my algebra test freshmen year of high school!

Jon


I have a couple of nuns in my family tree so I started a prayer chain around the world for all my clients Jon. I have the name of a good chiropractor in MI if you need it!:D

[onebugle]

As they say,

The wheels of progress turn slowly:rolleyes: ..............but in this case.........the wheels have come to a grinding halt!:eek:

[WestTaylorFd29]

Thanks for the offer. The grant window closed on 9/30/07 so they are not accepting anymore comments. If you want to see our request you can see it at:

http://www.myhometownhelper.com/ViewProject.aspx?id=27748

You will have to ignore my last comments. I tried to update the page and it kept entering my post. I contacted Hamburger Helper to have them delete two of the comments but could not. I did not mean to artifically inflate our posts.

Thank you again for your offer to help.

Jon

shoot jon i did mine for radios but none of us will hear anything till 11/15 it says now but kurt im prayin we need them packs

[plongsfd17]

As they say,

The wheels of progress turn slowly:rolleyes: ..............but in this case.........the wheels have come to a grinding halt!:eek:

I am being to think the whells have come off and someone lost the lug nuts.
Nuts is pretty much where I am heading at this point. Another round please.

[jhawkjack]

its kinda funny how addictive checking on your 1199a can become. Yes, we could use the new engine, but if someone else is more deserving so be it. But here i am again, rabbits foot in hand, typing in my password and ..........nothing. I think I'm going to order a Harvey Wallbanger

[fireeater324]

How long does it usually take to get the official announcement after receiving the 1199 and 10Q's?

[onebugle]

On average 2-3 weeks, but there have been some that took more than a month. It's just a matter of time, sit tight it will come.

[fireeater324]

Thanks for the information. I'm new working on these grants. This is only the second one that I have put in for, and the first one was denied last year.

[kprsn1]

Why do I have the nagging feeling that the updates have slowed because they're getting ready to drop the bomb on me with a rejection notice?

[befferk]

Why do I have the nagging feeling that the updates have slowed because they're getting ready to drop the bomb on me with a rejection notice?

:eek: Thanks for putting THAT thought in my head :p

Beth

[7Stones]

There is another, more positive option for why there has been a terribly long delay in the 1199a announcements...the FP&S window should be opening soon. DHS could be working on revisions to the guidance documents and preparing to open the one-month grant window for these grants. That would take a lot of time and energy away from the AFG side of things.

I hope I am right. I need some hope that I am not days away from the peer-reviewed DJ on our extrication/HAZMAT request.

Anyone think this is a possibility? Or am I suffering from optimisticitis?

Jon

[kprsn1]

:eek: Thanks for putting THAT thought in my head :p

Beth

Sorry Beth!:o :D

There is another, more positive option for why there has been a terribly long delay in the 1199a announcements...the FP&S window should be opening soon. DHS could be working on revisions to the guidance documents and preparing to open the one-month grant window for these grants. That would take a lot of time and energy away from the AFG side of things.

I like your way of thinking! You've given me a reason to keep on checking that application!:D

[ktb9780]

OK folks, why worry over something you have no control over? Think positively! It is good for you, your department and your morale. If you did not get DJ'd by computer and you have followed our advice in here or in the smeinars you attended, you have probably written a superior application that the Grant Gods are about to bless you with.Things will get rolling again when AFG is good and ready for them to and none of your worrying or hand wringing will change that so, carpe diem! Enjoy a drive through the fall colors, go fishing, go bag a deer but do something other than just sitting there clicking every 5 minutes or waiting for the email. Patience; it is a virtue and a reality for those of us trying to appease the Grant Gods. LOL!:D

[k3twpfire]

We need to put an amber alert out for the 1199As! :rolleyes:

[plongsfd17]

Patience; it is a virtue and a reality for those of us trying to appease the Grant Gods. LOL!:D

You know you are right to check every hour on the hour makes waiting longer.So got professonal help(my boss) to make only check every other day.
as said before patience.

[ktb9780]

I beleive we will see some strong movement on them next week; I mean come on, they have not updated in so long that they have to be running out of currently updated departments at this point in time now for sure.;)

[BC79er]

We forgot the annual event: Oct 1st of every year is the hold because of the banking changeover with the federal government. Spending and allocations are on hold for all departments. They can keep awarding those approved prior to Sep 1st, but nothing has moved since the 1st because of the banking cheese shift. Now that I was reminded of that, it takes about two weeks, so this being the 2nd week unless something stretched it out we'll see lots of movement on 1199As and denials shortly.

[7Stones]

I just had a profile update request on the AFG website. I have read other posts recently that this has happened to a lot of departments. Anyone know if there is any connection between this request and a pending 1199a? Does it imply a stronger likelihood to receive an 1199a? I got all excited over the SCBA email and now this. I may be grasping at straws but a little hope would go a long way as the next DJ round nears.

Thanks for your insight.

Jon

[BC79er]

Sorry, no hope in Profile updates. Other than indicating that something is coming in general they have no specific indications for any department. All it means right now is that DJs are coming real soon for some, and 1199As for others.

[7Stones]

Great. I knew the DJs were imminent but I was hopeful that the update would imply good news. Thanks anyway. This next month could be big for us: AFG, CEDAP, Hamburger Helper, and FM Global all waiting in line. It will either be a really great month with lots of celebrating or it could be ... something worse. I choose to remain hopeful.

Jon

[ktb9780]

Jon you need to learn the ways of the fisherman and hunter; patience is a virtue. Like it or not, patience is an attribute that you will be forced to learn as a grant writer so. welcome to the "hurry up and wait" club! LOL!;)

[Pelican631]

Jon you need to learn the ways of the fisherman and hunter;

BWAAAA HAAAA HAAAAA.

That's too good Kurt. (sorry Jon, I'm sure that one hurt...quite a zinger)

Andy K

[plongsfd17]

What do you people think about the slow down of 1199a. Does anybody think that they have figured out that we are addicted to checking for them so they are holding all to last minute. You know they can read the forums, and want to make us sweat some more.

[BC79er]

The hold has been from the fiscal year changeover, OMB stops everything in all departments when that happens. Lots of questions to current 1199A holders went out yesterday so I'd imagine things starting up again this week. Probably today at some point while I'm en route to NC. Won't get to the hotel until 1am and if there's updates I don't see me sleeping until they're all checked... :rolleyes:

[7Stones]

Thanks Andy. If Kurt only knew...my favorite interior decorating comes from the taxidermist, my freezer overflows every year with venison, grouse, trout, pike, etc., I have put over 500 trolling miles on my boat in the last two years, and I just took my two older boys through hunter safety..so watch out!

I am patient. We just need this grant pretty badly and I am hoping...

Jon

[ktb9780]

Thanks Andy. If Kurt only knew...my favorite interior decorating comes from the taxidermist, my freezer overflows every year with venison, grouse, trout, pike, etc., I have put over 500 trolling miles on my boat in the last two years, and I just took my two older boys through hunter safety..so watch out!

I am patient. We just need this grant pretty badly and I am hoping...

Jon

Well then I guess the more appropriate cartoon would be of the two buzzards sitting on a branch with the caption of : "patience hell, I'm going to kill somthing!" Hang in there Jon.;)

[LVFD301]

Jon you need to learn the ways of the fisherman and hunter; patience is a virtue. ;)

Patience?

What about explosives for fishing, and lots of field baiting for hunting?

[CusterFireman]

Just had a request for Profile update...

I know it doesn't mean anything just wanna let it know to the forum.

[Greenacres2]

We submitted a semi-annual report on an FP grant yesterdayy morning and it was approved in the afternoon. I think even the DHS staff is ready to roll.

earl

[demon641]

We got our questions email from the grant specialists today. Should be sending reply tomorrow or Friday at latest.

[HazFire1]

Got our 1199 update 8/14, just received 10 q's today with a possible reduction in turnout funding.
I have read that $2000 is typical, per set, we had requested $1985 and they had the following to say:
Per the program office, if your department is awarded we will fund as follows: The prices are based on our market research.
No suggestion of a reduction though?

[BC79er]

Some are up to $2200, but each piece has a limit. $200 for boots & helmets, $50 for gloves & hood, $950 coats, $750 pants, $100 for flashlights. If you're under those marks then someone probably hit the wrong button.

[HazFire1]

Under on all but the flashlights, they made no mention of those :-)
No mention of any adjustments to our SCBA's or composite bottles either, MORE GOOD NEWS!

[BC79er]

SCBAs will be taken to $5k max, that's a given per the 9/13 email ruling on 2007 compliant packs.

[demon641]

We got an increase in our total app. money. Got reduced for thermal cameras and increased for scba . Increase from 208K to 220K for total grant money

Now for the worst/best wait of all

[neiowa]

SCBAs will be taken to $5k max, that's a given per the 9/13 email ruling on 2007 compliant packs.

Do the bids on 3 different packs have to be from three different mfg? Or three different models (Scott has 2x models certified)? Bids have to be from three different vendors (some sell more than one brand of pack)?

Biids for only packs that have passed NFPA cert (only MSA and Scott have passed/will the secondary brands get certified anytime soon?)?

[BC79er]

3 different manufacturers. Not sure about the 2 brands from Scott counting as 2 or 1. There are 4 up now, Interspiro, MSA, ISI, and the 2 from Scott.

Last word through the grapevine had some of the others failing again last month. Some have no production timeline at all since too many pieces are failing they can't make any of the packs just to have parts ready to roll when the rest get cleared. But the grapevine is what it is. I have an email into DHS about the timeline. Truck bids have to go out within 30 days of award, vendor chosen by 90 days or you'll lose the award. The same isn't true for equipment per se, but if 6 months passes and nothing has been done b/c someone is waiting on a brand to pass they may yank it also. Just a guess so don't get upset yet, I'm waiting on the official word. DHS doesn't recognize brand name as part of the interoperability puzzle, so since there are 2007compliant packs on the market you may not get to wait for some brands to pass. I'll post the word from above when I get it.

[neiowa]

bids have to go out within 30 days of award, vendor chosen by 90 days or you'll lose the award.


We got the truck timeline from DHS. Someone at DHS is smoking their socks. Likely can get an off the rack 2000gal tanker or a brush truck within their timeline. But if they think can have a truck delivered within 12m of award they are nuts. Lucky if 12m from time contract is signed.

[accesslocks]

Neiowa,
We sent out specs, and gave the mfg two weeks for bids, We just awarded Pierce the job, they gave us delivery of 7.5 months. US Tanker gave us 7 month delivery date, if you need specs, I can send you ours! (International Chassis, 2000 gal tank, w/ 500 gpm waterous)

[BC79er]

DHS knows most manufacturers are taking 12 months to deliver, that's why they're pushing so hard to get the ordering done, so at most people need a 90 day extension on the performance period. Instead of waiting 11 months to order, then the grant is live for 24+ months if there are any delays. Equipment normally doesn't take more than 5-6 months for delivery so they haven't worried about that. Yet.

[neiowa]

Neiowa,
We sent out specs, and gave the mfg two weeks for bids, We just awarded Pierce the job, they gave us delivery of 7.5 months. US Tanker gave us 7 month delivery date, if you need specs, I can send you ours! (International Chassis, 2000 gal tank, w/ 500 gpm waterous)

Thanks our's is a bit larger and perhaps unusual.

Will have contract done in timely manner but going to take the time to do the prep work right. No do overs and likely the only new truck our FD will ever have. Will certainly be around long after I'm retire (say 2040 or so).

[Limeforever]

Neiowa, you have built a pretty impressive fire department and have a water supply that many are very envious of. I think we all have been impressed by what you have done with the FEPP program and you have helped many more get started with the program as well. I feel confident that you have thought out this project as well as all the other you have completed. As you posted above, just take the time to get it right and to complete it the way it will serve you best. We just ordered a new mini and are looking at April or May elivery time on it. The truck market is a little bogged down, still finishing some of the grants from last year as well as some pretty good size military contracts as well. Good luck, I have confidence in your leadership.

[waterboy1]

Looks like the last 1199 was on 9-28 #41 on this thread. 50+ replies since... DHS has really went to sleep this time.....

by the way I really enjoy reading this thread daily to see if anybody is getting their 1199A's only to find where the next seminar is or what kind of equipment someone is buying...:confused:

[36Vollie]

Got our update about 20 minutes ago!!!

[36Vollie]

Start clicking everyone!!

[onebugle]

Got our update about 20 minutes ago!!!

Hopefully, this is the sign of many more to come. Burn up the keyboards folks.:)

[CusterFireman]

No New Update Here

Starting to get real its not coming :-( :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[hdavid66]

Just got a 1199a update for new air packs. If all goes well this will be a first award ever for our department.

Dave Harrington
Middlesex Fire Department

[jhawkjack]

nothing new in North Dakota but the weather change. Hope to see some happy people on here. Maybe the pony express hasnt delivered the email yet... good luck to all

[BC79er]

Boy that makes up for the weather delay coming into WA. Congrats 36 and the others finding good news. :)

[CordovaFire]

Well, add us to the 1199 list. Just checked our 1199A (10/22 9:30pm) and there is a 2007 reference number that matches our 2007 Equipment Grant. New SCBA and Extrication equipment hopefully to come our way. Now for the wait on the questions.

[ChiefSTN20]

Just got my 1199 for a exhaust system for my second department. A big THANK YOU to Kurt and Alum Bank!!!

[Attack6]

Just got another 1199 form for one of the grants I wrote for a neighboring dept. That is the 3rd in my area. LDH and adaptors and such. Another good day for a Johnstown PA area department. Would now be a good time to say...Kurt is coming to the Oakland Fire Dept in Johnstown, PA on Dec. 15-16. We are living proof that it works. Message me or log onto www.chiefgrants.com for info.
BTW..Im a Alum Bank Alumnus also!

[fireemtp]

Well, add us to the 1199 list. Checked our 1199A (10/22 9:30pm) and there is a 2007 reference number that matches our 2007 Equipment Grant. Two new Thermal Imaging Camera's are hopefully coming our way. Now waiting on the questions.

[kd5smn]

I discovered a 2007 number on our 2006 1199a yesterday so hopefully we will have new SCBA headed our way in the future. Congratulations to everyone else and good luck to those still waiting.

[ktb9780]

Well, add us to the 1199 list. Just checked our 1199A (10/22 9:30pm) and there is a 2007 reference number that matches our 2007 Equipment Grant. New SCBA and Extrication equipment hopefully to come our way. Now for the wait on the questions.
Congrats Dean! Almost there now.;)

[ktb9780]

Just got my 1199 for a exhaust system for my second department. A big THANK YOU to Kurt and Alum Bank!!!


Your welcome. Hey give me a call 800-992-02727 Ext 3111:D

[ktb9780]

Just got another 1199 form for one of the grants I wrote for a neighboring dept. That is the 3rd in my area. LDH and adaptors and such. Another good day for a Johnstown PA area department. Would now be a good time to say...Kurt is coming to the Oakland Fire Dept in Johnstown, PA on Dec. 15-16. We are living proof that it works. Message me or log onto www.chiefgrants.com for info.
Geez Louise! The tri-fecta, grand slam. Way to go Tom.;)

[k3twpfire]

We just got our update for our FV application. A new tender [tanker] is on the way!

[Greenacres2]

We just got our update for our FV application. A new tender [tanker] is on the way!

Well, now there's a surprise winner!! :D

Congrats Steve. And everyone else.

earl

[michaeld327]

And I continue to wait! But atleast I did not get a DJ!!! I am still alive!

[imafireman]

Just got my 1199 for a exhaust system for my second department. A big THANK YOU to Kurt and Alum Bank!!!

Congratulations Tim. And you are always welcome in Alum Bank. Looks like Kurt's seminar crew from Alum Bank is ripping up again. Way to go Tom. I am anxiously awaiting the Oakland seminar!! Congratulations to the rest of you also.

Kelly

[ktb9780]

We just got our update for our FV application. A new tender [tanker] is on the way!
Way to go Steve!!!;)

[ktb9780]

Congratulations Tim. And you are always welcome in Alum Bank. Looks like Kurt's seminar crew from Alum Bank is ripping up again. Way to go Tom. I am anxiously awaiting the Oakland seminar!! Congratulations to the rest of you also.

Kelly
Yea I thinkit is a real race to see if you or Earl's seminar has the highest pay back this year. Keep on trucking guys.;)

[onebugle]

Yea I thinkit is a real race to see if you or Earl's seminar has the highest pay back this year. Keep on trucking guys.;)

It looks like Kurt deserves a big Christmas bonus this year......don't be stingy guys.:D

[hosehead88]

Still nothing here in Central PA...

Last year was our first, and we were in the first round or two. Now I am getting nervous that we have not seen a change in our 1199 yet for this year...

[ktb9780]

It looks like Kurt deserves a big Christmas bonus this year......don't be stingy guys.:D


I just hope my boss reads this post!!!LOL!:rolleyes:

[CusterFireman]

You must use the button below to print the 1199A document.

Remember! After printing a copy of this form, you must send it to your financial institution.
Reference Award Number: EMW-2007-FO-0xxx

SWEET!!!!

THANKS ALOT GUYS!

Since we got a grant in 2003 do we have to send in an updated 1199A Form!

Thanks a bunch for your assistance in this matter.

[Limeforever]

Kurt,
Should we cc him a copy of this thread and let him look for himself. Bad thing about these seminars, it just keeps getting harder for the rest of us to get some of the money. Oh well, I guess I will just have to schedule a trip to another seminar in a warm climate.

[onebugle]

You must use the button below to print the 1199A document.

Remember! After printing a copy of this form, you must send it to your financial institution.
Reference Award Number: EMW-2007-FO-0xxx

SWEET!!!!

THANKS ALOT GUYS!

Since we got a grant in 2003 do we have to send in an updated 1199A Form!

Thanks a bunch for your assistance in this matter.

Only if you need to make changes to the info on the 1199A, otherwise you are all set.

[Greenacres2]

Looks like the last 1199 was on 9-28 #41 on this thread. 50+ replies since... DHS has really went to sleep this time.....

by the way I really enjoy reading this thread daily to see if anybody is getting their 1199A's only to find where the next seminar is or what kind of equipment someone is buying...:confused:

Yeah, and look what your post started!! :D Must have been somebody at DHS waiting for you to trip the trigger, 'cuz the flood of 1199a's started within 20 minutes of that post.

earl (not checking my 1199 next year until waterboy says to! :D )

[Greenacres2]

Only if you need to make changes to the info on the 1199A, otherwise you are all set.

And if you do need to make changes, be sure to make them before printing or they'll have to release it to you again.

earl (been there, done that. thought i cost us thousands!!)

[firechief47]

Can waterboy post something again? I still didn't get my 1199

[jhawkjack]

I second the waterboy posting....no news

[CusterFireman]

Hopefully I'm not the only one that got a 1199A Link Today.

I told my Fire Chief that we did not have to send it in since we got one in 2003 and he said he's playing everything safe and going to follow the directions to a T.

No problems with me about it LOL

Thanks again for all assistance.

[RES81CUE]

We received another 1199A yesterday for my 4th grant this year! 2 for my volunteer department and 2 for my paid department! Very happy to say all grants but, one awarded in NW Arkansas came from my keyboard!

[BC79er]

Hopefully I'm not the only one that got a 1199A Link Today.

I told my Fire Chief that we did not have to send it in since we got one in 2003 and he said he's playing everything safe and going to follow the directions to a T.

No problems with me about it LOL

Thanks again for all assistance.

Congrats again John. :)

Looks like they did more today, one of mine found the truck yesterday and the Ops this morning when they went in to do the Update. I like doubles, less logging in for me.

K3 up again, congrats. Kurt I think we're creating too many other gurus, we're going to be out of business. ;)

[ktb9780]

Kurt,
Should we cc him a copy of this thread and let him look for himself. Bad thing about these seminars, it just keeps getting harder for the rest of us to get some of the money. Oh well, I guess I will just have to schedule a trip to another seminar in a warm climate.
Hey Derrick does LAs Vegas sound warm enough? 1st week of November... kaching!LOL!:D

[ktb9780]

Congrats again John. :)

Looks like they did more today, one of mine found the truck yesterday and the Ops this morning when they went in to do the Update. I like doubles, less logging in for me.

K3 up again, congrats. Kurt I think we're creating too many other gurus, we're going to be out of business. ;)

No, we create safe departments and there will never be everyone safe at once. I have no doubts that as long as "need exists" and a "program" exists to satisfy that need, we will all have a job.

Besides guru status does not happen till:
You have no more than 1000 hairs left in your head from pulling them out while awaiting the award rounds
Your wife has threatened to shoot you and your computer at least 100 times if you don't quit for the night
You have had "carpal tunnel syndrome" surgery on both hands
Deer hunting season gets sacrificed to answer peoples questions on this forum
Others start invitiing you to their areas just because you bring snow or rain, everytime you go somewhere


Now, back to clicking and checking again! LOL!:D

[Limeforever]

Everytime I mention the vegas seminars, my chiefs always so they will take over the grant writing duties. My PD guy is wanting me to come to Atlanta with him, and it is the closest, time wise to when the guidance should be out. But the federal govt. has this little thing called a delay that worries me. But I am sure that Atlanta is nice (NOT) in the middle of February. There is a nice hotel/convention center in St. Thomas U.S.V.I. I might even be abel to talk my buddies from up in Indiana and Illinois to attend. Would also be nice if we could get Bugle, Neiowa, Attack and K3, don't remember their exact location, but I bet they could be convinced.

[onebugle]

You have no more than 1000 hairs left in your head from pulling them out while awaiting the award rounds

Full head of hair, just getting grayer by the day.

Your wife has threatened to shoot you and your computer at least 100 times if you don't quit for the night

The reason I gave my guns away.

You have had "carpal tunnel syndrome" surgery on both hands

Wife just got diagnosed with it, 2 braces being used.

Deer hunting season gets sacrificed to answer peoples questions on this forum

Not likely, daughter a tree hugger......learned last year what it meant for a deer to be hanging from a tree in the neighbor's yard.

Others start invitiing you to their areas just because you bring snow or rain, everytime you go somewhere

Definately will not happen, natural disasters follow me.:eek: :D

[Attack6]

Johnstown PA, December 15th & 16th. Last year at this time my neighbor was putting siding on his house. You never know up here, but that the fun of it all. Im willing to bet Kurt will be bringing some interesting weather to the "Flood City". http://www.visitjohnstownpa.com/ Just some interesting facts about our area, in case you decide to visit. I can promise a good time to be had...Bigdogz Grill across the street is always friendly to firefighters and police.

[ktb9780]

Everytime I mention the vegas seminars, my chiefs always so they will take over the grant writing duties. My PD guy is wanting me to come to Atlanta with him, and it is the closest, time wise to when the guidance should be out. But the federal govt. has this little thing called a delay that worries me. But I am sure that Atlanta is nice (NOT) in the middle of February. There is a nice hotel/convention center in St. Thomas U.S.V.I. I might even be abel to talk my buddies from up in Indiana and Illinois to attend. Would also be nice if we could get Bugle, Neiowa, Attack and K3, don't remember their exact location, but I bet they could be convinced.
I tell oyu what, I'll give oyu my president's email address and if you can convince him that 25 people will be in the Virgin Islands I am quite sure he would let me go! LOL!:rolleyes:

[Attack6]

Limeforever
Im sure I would be there. With the success my dept. has had, they would send me in a heartbeat. They actually voted to send me wherever necessary earlier in the year, before we secured Kurt coming to Johntown, PA. With over $500,000 in grants over the past 5 years (AFG, DCED, Polaris, State of PA, Firefighters Charitable, Walmart, Microsoft, ) they would have no problem sending me. Set it up...Ill take some time off school and be there.

[Greenacres2]

In mid-February U.S.V.I. would be attractive to people from most of 49 of the 50 states, so it doesn't matter where you're from. If i sell some insurance this fall, count me in. Cheap hotel and an ocean breeze go real nice together.

I'm thinking that with onebugle, k3twp, limeforever, attack6 and neiowa as guest speakers (with travel expenses and a small honorarium), you could get 25 students. Not only that, but being surrounded by salt water i could come just to make coffee. What's President Chief's e-mail address????

earl (shoot, if i could sell that i COULD sell some insurance!!)

[onebugle]

U.S.V.I. in February and not in New England...count me in. By that point I'll be tired of shoveling snow, tired of being cold, and tired of driving to and from work in the dark.

Warm weather, beaches.....make sure the resort has an outdoor bar to hold the seminar at.....more conducive for learning.;)

The group slogan:

"What does not happen in St. Thomas, stays in St. Thomas." :D

First things first.....time to go watch the Red Sox defeat the Rockies.

[ktb9780]

U.S.V.I. in February and not in New England...count me in. By that point I'll be tired of shoveling snow, tired of being cold, and tired of driving to and from work in the dark.

Warm weather, beaches.....make sure the resort has an outdoor bar to hold the seminar at.....more conducive for learning.;)

The group slogan:

"What does not happen in St. Thomas, stays in St. Thomas." :D

First things first.....time to go watch the Red Sox defeat the Rockies.

I ma reminded othe George Strait Song" I've got some ocean front property in Arizona... and if you buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free!.LOL!

[islandfire03]

First things first.....time to go watch the Red Sox defeat the Rockies.

Looks like the Sox are sending out a Warm welcome to the rockies. They're on the 4th pitcher and Boston's is still batting in the fifth inning. 13-1

Go Sox

[onebugle]

Looks like the Sox are sending out a Warm welcome to the rockies. They're on the 4th pitcher and Boston's is still batting in the fifth inning. 13-1

Go Sox

Amazing start to the WS. Beckett was on...the bats were blazing....records set.....records tied......Go Sox. Bring on Game 2.

[Truckie623]

Recieved our 1199a Monday. Will be our first in four years. A new tanker to replace our 1973 Chevy that I rode in as a kid filling swimming pools with my Dad on Saturdays in the 1970's. We still have it and I'm driving it as the Asst. Chief with 18 years on the dept. (No Joke)....Just to paint a picture!

Fingers are crossed in NC!:o

[ChiefReason]

BC79er:
Got our 1199a on Tuesday. Did the on-line last night and am taking the day off work to go to our bank with the printed form.
Could this be the year for us?
Will the 10 questions follow?
I am feeling very optimistic.
CR

[CusterFireman]

:D :D :D :D :D :D

LETS BRING OUT THE ALCOHOL!!

If you get the 1199A - About a 99.99999999% Chance your getting the grant.

Congrats.

[kprsn1]

BC79er:
Got our 1199a on Tuesday. Did the on-line last night and am taking the day off work to go to our bank with the printed form.
Could this be the year for us?
Will the 10 questions follow?
I am feeling very optimistic.
CR

Congratulations CR!!:D Still in limbo here waiting. Nothing so far.

[BC79er]

You should be feeling more than optimistic Art. :D

Questions will probably come next week. Just be sure to tell them Yes you'll accept. ;)

[HazFire1]

Our 1199A update to 10 q's was a loooong 10 week wait
Hope your wait is much less!

[Michael33]

congrats i did not hear nothing yet.i did not get a dj letter or a grant yet i hope we get it real soon

[ChiefReason]

You should be feeling more than optimistic Art. :D

Questions will probably come next week. Just be sure to tell them Yes you'll accept. ;)

Brian:
You can't imagine the elation AND relief that me and our chief are feeling right now.
We got our 1199a on Tuesday and wouldn't you know it, we got the 10 questions TODAY.
Did someone know that tomorrow is my birthday or what?
I can't thank you enough, except to say that I will push for the purchases through a certain vendor and then, we will enlist your help again next year for that compressor. You knew what to do; I had to convince the chief, but the strategy worked. I tip my hat to you.
Honestly, I don't think that we could have done it without you.
Thanks so much.
Art

[ChiefReason]

Oh and I almost forgot.
We have applied every year since the inception of AFG.
This is our FIRST award...
And it feels absolutely fantastic.
CR

[k3twpfire]

Oh and I almost forgot.
We have applied every year since the inception of AFG.
This is our FIRST award...
And it feels absolutely fantastic.
CR

What did you apply for?

[ChiefReason]

What did you apply for?

SCBAs. None of our current stock was NFPA compliant.
And of course, the standard has already changed AGAIN.
CR

[BC79er]

Well, now you can pick up some SCBA that are compliant with a brand new standard. :D

And that is one nice b-day present. I was more than happy to help out this year, more than happy to aim for back to back with a compressor next year. Gotta fill them new toys somehow. :)

[islandfire03]

Congrats chief reason : now you know how to celebrate your birthday! With a large steak and a beverage of your choice. And tell your boss the departments buying.

[onebugle]

Oh and I almost forgot.
We have applied every year since the inception of AFG.
This is our FIRST award...
And it feels absolutely fantastic.
CR

Congrats on your first time win. Couldn't ask for a better birthday present.:)

[jboczek]

Congratulations to your department, CR. Give up on the rescue, get some money. We're like Chad, still waiting to hear something.

[CusterFireman]

RX'ed Our 10 Questions on Friday As well

Should be announced in the next 2 weeks most likely.

[demon641]

I hope you're right about the 2 week thing. 2 weeks will be up for us on Friday. So maybe an announcement the following Tuesday....................the wait continues

[ktb9780]

Have had two clients recive 10 q's since 1345 hrs today!:D

[k3twpfire]

I received the 10 Qs on our tender grant today at 1400 CST.

[CordovaFire]

We got the questions for our SCBA grant today at 10:30 this morning. Having to work out the details on the reduction, but all is good.

[ktb9780]

Keep on clicking folks. I found new 1199a updates on several clients that were not there at 1400hrs. Looks like I picked up another double award client also today; that makes an even dozen. :D

[imafireman]

Keep on clicking folks. I found new 1199a updates on several clients that were not there at 1400hrs. Looks like I picked up another double award client also today; that makes an even dozen. :D

Just remember who the first double of the year was for you!!! I am still in awe and have been bored to death with no more 1199's to look for. Could not have gotten there without you Kurt!!

Kelly

[volfireman034]

I have so excited i'm jumping up and down. I check last years grant 1199A and it's have the reference number for 2007. Yeah im there $ new CBRN SCBA's for a small rural fire dept.

[ktb9780]

Just remember who the first double of the year was for you!!! I am still in awe and have been bored to death with no more 1199's to look for. Could not have gotten there without you Kurt!!

Kelly


Your welcome Kelly. Hey call me today when you have a few minutes. Need to get caught up on the Colo situation.;)

[Pelican631]

Our 1199A now has two lines! New tanker courtesy of DHS!!!!

Great year for grants here!

Andy

[7Stones]

Our 1199A now has two lines! New tanker courtesy of DHS!!!!

Great year for grants here!

Andy

CONGRATULATIONS on the new tanker. So, about that swimming pool I need filled...

Jon

[utfd704]

We received our 1199A update today or at least it was there this afternoon, I'll have to stop going to my clickers support group for a few months.

Thanks to all who give the vast amount of information that allowed me to get this far. This was for a much needed gator / trailer/ and 2 slide in set-up for medical and fire calls.

Thanks again

[BC79er]

Nice job Andy!

[WJVaughn]

We received our 1199A update today or at least it was there this afternoon, I'll have to stop going to my clickers support group for a few months.

Thanks to all who give the vast amount of information that allowed me to get this far. This was for a much needed gator / trailer/ and 2 slide in set-up for medical and fire calls.

Thanks again

Ok that's a new grant combination. Is this thru the fire side or the EMS side of the money? I think I think I might want to pursue that line next year.

[BC79er]

I did a similar one that was funded in MN for a command/rehab/ATV-pump package. They're taking a 35' cargo trailer and splitting it into 3 parts. We got the funding for the AC unit, generator, light tower, and other goodies. Was a neat design from the department, I didn't think of it so not taking credit for it. I just paint pictures. :)

[firechief47]

One of our mutual aid departments got their 1199 and 10qs today for SCBAs (with the reduction, of course). It looks like they haven't forgotten Florida, after all.

[ktb9780]

I did a similar one that was funded in MN for a command/rehab/ATV-pump package. They're taking a 35' cargo trailer and splitting it into 3 parts. We got the funding for the AC unit, generator, light tower, and other goodies. Was a neat design from the department, I didn't think of it so not taking credit for it. I just paint pictures. :)

Yeah but without the artist, the painting never gets sold or seen!;)

[BC79er]

True, but the uniqueness was more in the project design. They're reasoning for it made it easy to paint.

[ktb9780]

True, but the uniqueness was more in the project design. They're reasoning for it made it easy to paint.
I think maybe the corect phrase is "cooperative effort" then.:D

[utfd704]

Ok that's a new grant combination. Is this thru the fire side or the EMS side of the money? I think I think I might want to pursue that line next year.

It was thru the fire side as we also run medical first responder an most calls.

Let things settle down a bit and I can send you over the info I put together on it.

[accesslocks]

utfd704....I wouldn't mind that info as well, Thanks in advance....

[westtexas]

Popped on to the net this AM to check my mail and low and behold two sets of ten questions! One for our Ops. Grant and one for our Vehicle Grant. The wild part about all this is that we got first round Dear Johns on both of them! Go frikkin figure! I am not gonna complain. I went in and checked the 1199 and low and behold, they were both sitting their! Anyone else have this happen this year?

[SLY4420]

Popped on to the net this AM to check my mail and low and behold two sets of ten questions! One for our Ops. Grant and one for our Vehicle Grant. The wild part about all this is that we got first round Dear Johns on both of them! Go frikkin figure! I am not gonna complain. I went in and checked the 1199 and low and behold, they were both sitting their! Anyone else have this happen this year?

Whooaaaaa...<cue creepy Halloween music> :confused:

I guess it's possible that they had another computer glitch this year and had to re-review certain apps?

[7Stones]

I am glad you got yuor 1199a and 10q's WESTTEXAS but now I am completely confused. We made it past the computer, received the SCBA email and a profile update (last week) and have not heard anything. I remember reading a post in Sept. that DHS was reviewing more applications but I did not expect them to be computer rejections. This blows the doors off all previous AFG experience. I am eager to hear Brian and Kurt's interpretation of this situation.

So I am still clicking like made but my hope is dwindling. The recent flurry of 1199a's got me all excited again but the looming DJ round has me worried. If we fail this year I have a pretty good idea why. We are working on correcting a NFIRS reporting problem and my cost:benefit statement in the grant narrative was fairly weak.

Still we asked for all high priority gear and our overall budget was only $30,300. We made it this far and I am still clicking.

Jon

[ChiefReason]

Timeline:
Last Tuesday, we got the 1199a.
Last Thursday, we got the 10 questions.
Last night, we were asked to take a reduction with the right to amend the grant award.
This is all happening very quickly.
WOW!
CR

[VenusChief]

Got our 1199a on tuesday morning for equipment. Still waiting on ten questions.

[VenusChief]

We got a profile update request Monday and our 1199a Tuesday. We are still waiting on our ten questions. Got our DJ for vehicle early on. It would be nice if they would reconsider the vehicle, but I doubt it, cost was too high.

[ecfd933]

Just checked our app 11/01/01 at 0915 CST and there is now a reference number for our operations and safety award for 2007. We applied for new mobile radios and portables for every riding position. If it all comes through this is our second award this year first was for a tanker!

Dan

[CusterFireman]

Congrats on the 2nd award..

We have our 1199A for 20 Brand New Sets of Turn Out Gear and 1 Commerical Grade Washer

$51,000

and we received our questions last week.

[kprsn1]

Popped on to the net this AM to check my mail and low and behold two sets of ten questions! One for our Ops. Grant and one for our Vehicle Grant. The wild part about all this is that we got first round Dear Johns on both of them! Go frikkin figure! I am not gonna complain. I went in and checked the 1199 and low and behold, they were both sitting their! Anyone else have this happen this year?

Okay, first off I'd like to congratulate you westtexas on your good news. However, I've got to say I'm a bit disturbed by this report of events. #1 Why would they (DHS) go back and change the status of a grant that was kicked out during the computer score? Not saying it isn't possible but what would have triggered a check? #2 It puts the doubt to anyone who received a rejection notice. If they went back and re-scored or checked westtexas' application then they had better checked everyone else's just to be safe wouldn't you think? And finally, #3, westtexas has a fantastic sense of humor and is yanking all of our chains?

[36Vollie]

We got our 1199A update 10/22 and we are still waiting for the questions.

[onebugle]

Okay, first off I'd like to congratulate you westtexas on your good news. However, I've got to say I'm a bit disturbed by this report of events. #1 Why would they (DHS) go back and change the status of a grant that was kicked out during the computer score? Not saying it isn't possible but what would have triggered a check? #2 It puts the doubt to anyone who received a rejection notice. If they went back and re-scored or checked westtexas' application then they had better checked everyone else's just to be safe wouldn't you think? And finally, #3, westtexas has a fantastic sense of humor and is yanking all of our chains?

1) More than likely another department(s) appealed the computer DJ. The most logical scenario would be a department's grant application that was DJed in '06 after Peer Review. This year they applied for the same identical project knowing they made it to PR, but recieved the computer DJ. File an appeal, DHS finds issues with how the computer scored (I believe this is what happened last time) hence rescoring.

2) DHS probably rescored all of the applications (at least the one's that may have been affected by the computer glitch). The one's that would have moved onto PR, were reviewed and scored (hence the posting of AFG reviews after the previous ones had been completed).

This could be one additional reason for the slow downs with 1199A's & Q's while the additional reviews were completed and processed.

3) It would have been a great April Fool's joke, but I believe he is sincere on what happened.

[WJVaughn]

Rats,
Went to the FEMA website just to check and no change. westtexas you got lucky.

[BC79er]

DHS found errors in one of the algorithms back in 2005 which is why some 300-odd apps were reviewed that originally got computer denied. 1 may have been awarded, scoring really didn't change over most. But when computer scoring errors are found they re-run all apps to make sure, and when apps are found that should have been in Peer they reconvene a panel to make sure the right thing is done in having those apps read.

[mmcneill]

DHS found errors in one of the algorithms back in 2005 which is why some 300-odd apps were reviewed that originally got computer denied. 1 may have been awarded, scoring really didn't change over most. But when computer scoring errors are found they re-run all apps to make sure, and when apps are found that should have been in Peer they reconvene a panel to make sure the right thing is done in having those apps read.

My grant in 2005 was one of those that was DJ'ed by the computer and was rechecked after I appealed the DJ. We received a email rescinding the DJ and we were funded 3 weeks later.

[BC79er]

Just in case anyone wasn't sure, there were 1199As released today. Not sure what time, flew up here to Joisey. Need to get my Tastykake fix. :)

[7Stones]

Have those of you who are received 1199a updates received notices via email or have you found them by checking the "View 1199" under the "Action" button on your grant status page?

The recent reports of more 1199a's have had me back to my status page countless times this week. I check the 1199 from our last grant year (2003) and then I check the following years just to make sure they did not slip in an 1199a somewhere else. Then, just to make sure, I look in the "Mail Center" to see we have any new messages...NOTHING!

I am doing everything I can think of to find some good news. It sure would be nice if I would recieve an email notification of a grant, just to catch me off guard!

Jon

[ktb9780]

Have those of you who are received 1199a updates received notices via email or have you found them by checking the "View 1199" under the "Action" button on your grant status page?

The recent reports of more 1199a's have had me back to my status page countless times this week. I check the 1199 from our last grant year (2003) and then I check the following years just to make sure they did not slip in an 1199a somewhere else. Then, just to make sure, I look in the "Mail Center" to see we have any new messages...NOTHING!

I am doing everything I can think of to find some good news. It sure would be nice if I would recieve an email notification of a grant, just to catch me off guard!

Jon


Jon, check your blood pressure man. Chill dude! Have a JD and coke, go fishing, go hunting. Relax guy it will happen when and if it happens. You are going to stress yourself to death. Patience is a virtue guy just relax.:D

[fireeater324]

I received my 1199 notice on my e-mail account that I have in my profile. If I remember right, it was also sent into the mail center on the application page itself.

We are sitting by waiting here. We got out 1199A update notice on 9/18 and 10Q's on 9/27 and it has not been announced yet. It is nerve racking, but all that we can do is wait.

[7Stones]

Kurt, I respect you but please cut the condescension. I have raised over $2,000,000 in the last ten years for my non-profit work from private and government funding sources. I am new to the Fire Department funding circuit. That is why I attended your seminar. It was very helpful. Before attending I wrote grants for AFG, FP&S, CEDAP, Hamburger Helper, FM Global, State Farm, Walmart, TargetSafety.Com, and the Firemen’s Fund for a TIC. Every grant for my department means more to me than almost all the other grants I wrote for the other organizations. These are my brothers. The gear we receive through a successful grant will ensure that we all go home safely after every call and it will help us save lives. Our operating budget from the Township is only $7,500. Every grant dollar makes a difference. So I check my grants often, hoping to be able to bring some good news (encouragement) back to my department. I will not apologize or make excuses for my passion. This is who I am. I run 100% on all cylinders in whatever direction God give me to run (husband, dad, fire fighter, employee, fishermen, hunter, skier, landlord, volunteer, pilot, etc.). Life is too short to watch it go by!

Anyway, thanks for your help. Just back off on the reproof. This is who I am and I am doing the best I can for my department.

Jon

[Catch22]

Kurt, I respect you but please cut the condescension. I have raised over $2,000,000 in the last ten years for my non-profit work from private and government funding sources. I am new to the Fire Department funding circuit. That is why I attended your seminar. It was very helpful. Before attending I wrote grants for AFG, FP&S, CEDAP, Hamburger Helper, FM Global, State Farm, Walmart, TargetSafety.Com, and the Firemen’s Fund for a TIC. Every grant for my department means more to me than almost all the other grants I wrote for the other organizations. These are my brothers. The gear we receive through a successful grant will ensure that we all go home safely after every call and it will help us save lives. Our operating budget from the Township is only $7,500. Every grant dollar makes a difference. So I check my grants often, hoping to be able to bring some good news (encouragement) back to my department. I will not apologize or make excuses for my passion. This is who I am. I run 100% on all cylinders in whatever direction God give me to run (husband, dad, fire fighter, employee, fishermen, hunter, skier, landlord, volunteer, pilot, etc.). Life is too short to watch it go by!

Anyway, thanks for your help. Just back off on the reproof. This is who I am and I am doing the best I can for my department.

Jon

No offense man, but if you're wound up enough to find that as condescending, you really could use some relaxation. If you've done that many grants, you should know it's a long, drawn out process before it's said and done.

I'm doing the checking several times a day, too. No harm in some razzing and reinforcement from the guys that are watching hundreds of grants.

[7Stones]

No offense man, but if you're wound up enough to find that as condescending, you really could use some relaxation. If you've done that many grants, you should know it's a long, drawn out process before it's said and done.

I'm doing the checking several times a day, too. No harm in some razzing and reinforcement from the guys that are watching hundreds of grants.

Catch22 I appreciate your desire to put this in perspective for me but I don't really need it. Read back over the posts. Every time I write something about checking my updates and hoping for good news I am told to chill out. I am no different than a lot of other guys who have worn the letters of their keys hoping for good news. I thought these forums were a place for everyone to share their thoughts and frustrations? If this is a private club where someone else is going to tell me what to feel or say then I am obviously in the wrong place.

Vetran or newbie, paid or volunteer, mulitple grant winner or repeat DJ recipient we all have a right to share our thoughts here and to feel anyway we want without fear of someone else appearing to dictate otherwise.

Hey, I attended the seminar. I learned a ton and would strongly recommend everyone seek out the same kind of instruction from of our resident experts. I know my grants will be better in the future. I am not taking a single thing away from the guru's and their extensive knowledge and valuable insights. I just don't like being told how to feel. Do you? A little mutual respect goes a long way in my book. I won't tell you how to feel or how to do your job and I'll expect the same in return.

Jon

[kprsn1]

1) More than likely another department(s) appealed the computer DJ. The most logical scenario would be a department's grant application that was DJed in '06 after Peer Review. This year they applied for the same identical project knowing they made it to PR, but recieved the computer DJ. File an appeal, DHS finds issues with how the computer scored (I believe this is what happened last time) hence rescoring.

2) DHS probably rescored all of the applications (at least the one's that may have been affected by the computer glitch). The one's that would have moved onto PR, were reviewed and scored (hence the posting of AFG reviews after the previous ones had been completed).

This could be one additional reason for the slow downs with 1199A's & Q's while the additional reviews were completed and processed.

3) It would have been a great April Fool's joke, but I believe he is sincere on what happened.

Thanks bugle and others for shedding some thoughts and light on this anomaly. I just want to reiterate that I mean no disrespect at all to you westtexas and I congratulate you again! Have fun shopping!:D

[BC79er]

Jon, the emails come to those that have never been awarded before. Since you were yours will show up on the 2003. There have been isolated cases of new Update links in the 2007 apps when people have older ones, and there will be emails to both the mail center and profile email when that happens. The Update will appear on one day, the email will come between 1 and 4am the next day.

And now you know why I only check when other people find them first, too many to check them all every day. :) I want them all funded too, but at this point it is 'just' the announcement. The scores are what they are from months ago. Plus I've been working apps ever since, too busy to get nervous checking. Excited when I find, not nervous when I don't. Odd, but then again I'm sitting here at midnight with a 7am flight back to TX instead of sleeping. Details.

[7Stones]

Thanks Brian. I hope you found some sleep last night. Great news this morning for the round 13 winners. Congratulations to all the new grant recipients.

Jon

[Pelican631]

The Update will appear on one day, the email will come between 1 and 4am the next day.

Don't scare me now Brian. Our 1199A had a second line a few days ago, but I still haven't seen any emails yet. Tell me everything is still ok :D

Here's proof to make sure I'm not hallucinating:

http://www.deercreekfire.org/whoohoo2.JPG

Andy

[BC79er]

You already got the email for the Ops Andy, they won't send you another one. I believed you, saw it online myself after you posted. ;) Bob said Chief was about to code at the news.

[onebugle]

Don't scare me now Brian. Our 1199A had a second line a few days ago, but I still haven't seen any emails yet. Tell me everything is still ok :D

Here's proof to make sure I'm not hallucinating:

http://www.deercreekfire.org/whoohoo2.JPG

Andy

Future double winner, great job. Only someone with a great name like that could pull that off.:) ;)

[Pelican631]

You already got the email for the Ops Andy, they won't send you another one. I believed you, saw it online myself after you posted. ;) Bob said Chief was about to code at the news.

Yeah I left him a message at work and I think he darn near kissed the secretary when she gave him the news. Better her than me :)

[onebugle]

Brian,

Is your website down? This message popped up when I went to it.

This site is temporarily not available. if you are the site owner, please contact us immediately at: support@atfreeweb.com.

[BC79er]

Works for me, just visited. They may have had a system burp. That's their standard message for everything that goes wrong. Details. 99.9% availability for $10/month, I'm not complaining.

[onebugle]

The message comes up when accessing the home page, but able to get through using the grant side.

[BC79er]

Odd. Still works for me on all links.

[ENG121]

Might want to try shutting down your computer and rebooting it. I had the same problem a while back where I couldn't get on the DHS site to check my 1199. I sent an email to Brian and he logged on without a problem. Once I shut the computer down and re-booted, it was fine and was able to sign on.

Not a sermon, just a thought!

[onebugle]

Might want to try shutting down your computer and rebooting it. I had the same problem a while back where I couldn't get on the DHS site to check my 1199. I sent an email to Brian and he logged on without a problem. Once I shut the computer down and re-booted, it was fine and was able to sign on.

Not a sermon, just a thought!

Was able to get on after my last post. Took your suggestion and re-booted the computer, just in case. Thanks.

[BC79er]

That's why I was in software; problems were more challenging than Tech Support where a reboot fixed 99.9% of the problems. ;)

[ktb9780]

Kurt, I respect you but please cut the condescension. I have raised over $2,000,000 in the last ten years for my non-profit work from private and government funding sources. I am new to the Fire Department funding circuit. That is why I attended your seminar. It was very helpful. Before attending I wrote grants for AFG, FP&S, CEDAP, Hamburger Helper, FM Global, State Farm, Walmart, TargetSafety.Com, and the Firemen’s Fund for a TIC. Every grant for my department means more to me than almost all the other grants I wrote for the other organizations. These are my brothers. The gear we receive through a successful grant will ensure that we all go home safely after every call and it will help us save lives. Our operating budget from the Township is only $7,500. Every grant dollar makes a difference. So I check my grants often, hoping to be able to bring some good news (encouragement) back to my department. I will not apologize or make excuses for my passion. This is who I am. I run 100% on all cylinders in whatever direction God give me to run (husband, dad, fire fighter, employee, fishermen, hunter, skier, landlord, volunteer, pilot, etc.). Life is too short to watch it go by!

Anyway, thanks for your help. Just back off on the reproof. This is who I am and I am doing the best I can for my department.

Jon


No doubt Jon, we all do the best we can. If my "tongue in cheek" attempt to humor and reassure offended you, I apologize. That was certainly not my intent.;)

[BC79er]

More 1199As were released last night, just got a happy phone call from a 1st time winner after getting the 1199A email.

[ktb9780]

More 1199As were released last night, just got a happy phone call from a 1st time winner after getting the 1199A email.

Oh great; tyryng to get ready to leave for the Las Vegas Seminar and have to start clicking all over again. Oh well. Thanks Brian.:D

[westtexas]

Hope this helps the non-believers! I know it changed my mind and no, we were not 1st timers. This makes us 4 for 4 on apps! I jsut cut and pasted the important parts so that I can at least have some credibility here on the board!

Date: 08/16/2007
Subject: Re: EMW-2007-FV-07861
From: firegrants@dhs.gov
Dear Assistance to Firefighters Grant Program Applicant:
On behalf of the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), thank you for applying for a grant under the Fiscal Year (FY) 2007 Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) Program. As you are aware, the AFG is an extremely competitive program. In FY 2007, the Department received over 20,000 applications, requesting over $3.1 billion in Federal funds. This extremely high number of applications and finite amount of funding available resulted in many worthy applicants not being funded. I regret to inform you that we will not able to fund your AFG request for the FY 2007 program.

Date: 08/16/2007
Subject: Re: EMW-2007-FO-12441
From: firegrants@dhs.gov
Dear Assistance to Firefighters Grant Program Applicant:
On behalf of the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), thank you for applying for a grant under the Fiscal Year (FY) 2007 Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) Program. As you are aware, the AFG is an extremely competitive program. In FY 2007, the Department received over 20,000 applications, requesting over $3.1 billion in Federal funds. This extremely high number of applications and finite amount of funding available resulted in many worthy applicants not being funded. I regret to inform you that we will not able to fund your AFG request for the FY 2007 program

Reference Award Number: EMW-2006-FG-17834
Reference Award Number: EMW-2005-FG-07144
Reference Award Number: EMW-2007-FV-07861
Reference Award Number: EMW-2007-FO-12441
I'd post the Ten Q's but no more Room.
Thanks, Jeff

[BC79er]

Oh great; tyryng to get ready to leave for the Las Vegas Seminar and have to start clicking all over again. Oh well. Thanks Brian.:D

No problem. :D I'm actually home for a whole week, then off to PA/NY/NJ for 6 workshops in 5 days, HS reunion, turkey day, and a wedding. I get to split time between FP&S and schlepping stuff from it's various hiding places to storage. Yeehaa.

[okchief70]

Thats great westtexas!:) How many of these are out there? If theres many it will play heck on the curve of who's left to award. Oh by the way I'am still waiting for a award or a DJ.:confused:

[pb146fd]

I checked our 1199a yesterday afternoon from our only grant in 2002 for PPE, and the reference award number is there for a new brush/quick attack truck with CAFS. First truck with AFG.
Still out on SCBA grant. Is it bad that both numbers didn't appear at the same time? Regardless now the work begins on buying a truck. We are really excited and grateful.
Is there a thread out there for these type trucks?

[imafireman]

I received an email from one of the seminar participants in Alum Bank that informed me that they received their 1199A update and award number last week. Also, our county was awarded its regional project for new mobiles, bases, portables, and pagers to go along with the new county system that is being installed. Total grant amount on that project was around a half a million.

[michaeld327]

Is there any guess as to when we might see the next round of DJ's?
I still have not recieved any 1199A update on either of my 2 apps. But at the same time have not seen a DJ.

Are my odds getting better or worse over time?

[BC79er]

The odds basically stay at 50-50 from here on out. Each DJ round that comes out eliminates those outside of the 200% zone of the remaining money. So when the next round of DJs comes, if there were 6000 apps in limbo, and enough money left (between awards and pending 1199As) for 2000 more awards they'll dump 2000 DJs to keep the pool at 4000. So at that point there are 2000 that will be awarded, 2000 that will be denied. Game continues like that until all dough is accounted for.

[mtrfd2518]

Just checked our 1199A and it's finally here, an award number for a new tanker. This is our first vehicle award through AFG. What has been the average time frame for the 10 Q's to appear?

[ECFD924]

Got our 10 questions today for new radios. We saw the ref number on our previous 1199 last week. This will be award number two this year, tanker in the first round.:) Good luck to all still waiting.

[BC79er]

Congrats Matt.

And FYI folks, more 1199As today, just found 1 while I was spot checking. Time to hit the full list....

[JNK735]

Brian, It was great to read the Forum and then check my app to see that we were the ones you were talking about. New turnout head to toe for everyone!!!!! Thanks for all you help and all that you do to help everyone else, great to hear from you, and I will catch another class when you are in my part of PA. Thanks for all your help.

[BC79er]

Definitely a nice coincidence you were already doing the happy dance. :D Of course the kids probably say they get in trouble for running around the house screaming, but Daddy doesn't.....

[Cutlervf]

Hi - I hate to do this to you veteran members but could someone start at square one for me? What are you actually checking on the 1199's and what does that mean?

We received an award in 2004. With all this talk I went back to that grant and I see that the reference number for our 2007 communication equipment is listed under the 1199. However, yesterday I received 10 questions for our 2007 vehicle request but that reference number is not listed on the 1199

Does that mean that both grants have possibilities of success?

What is the sequence of events? 1199, 10 questions, and then the award? Has anyone been turned down after the 10 questions and 1199 activity? Is there an average time period between each step?

I sure would appreciate some help understanding this! - Thanks

[Ranburne]

Came in tonight from a meeting and had the 1199A undate for Bumper turret for our brush truck, some new turnout, and some new hose, and hose roller for 5" LDH.

[utfd704]

Well we found the update last week and had the 10 q's arrive today, answered and on the way back first thing in the am, We did have a small reduction but we will take what we can get and still say thank you,

Thanks again for all of the help from this list.



Cue up the happy dance music.

[onebugle]

Hi - I hate to do this to you veteran members but could someone start at square one for me? What are you actually checking on the 1199's and what does that mean?

We received an award in 2004. With all this talk I went back to that grant and I see that the reference number for our 2007 communication equipment is listed under the 1199. However, yesterday I received 10 questions for our 2007 vehicle request but that reference number is not listed on the 1199

Does that mean that both grants have possibilities of success?

What is the sequence of events? 1199, 10 questions, and then the award? Has anyone been turned down after the 10 questions and 1199 activity? Is there an average time period between each step?

I sure would appreciate some help understanding this! - Thanks

The 1199A's are one of the first signs that an award is pending. 99% of the time the 1199A will precede the 10 Q's, but in some cases, like yours, the Q's came first. The 1199A's are not required to come first, but that has been the case in the past.

With the info you have recieved, both grants should be successful (99%).

The sequence of events are 1199A, 10 Q's (or vice versa) then the award announcment. On average it takes about 2-3 weeks for the award announcement after the Q's have been returned, but it can take longer.

Two things to look for on the 1199A reference; FO=operations & FV=vehicle.

Congrats you look like a future double winner.

[BC79er]

Cutler, also the question form is the same no matter what you applied for. The vehicle questions are on all of them, so if the FV isn't there then you're on for just the equipment right now. As bugle said, if they're both there, they're both on their way.

[Cutlervf]

Thanks for the information. I did not realize that the questions were the same for both. So far we only have the "FO" on the 1199. I answered the 10 questions referring to the "FV". Do you think I should try to contact them again? It sure would be nice if they told us all this up front! Thanks again!

[BC79er]

The subject line should have had one of the #'s in it, but sometimes that gets left out.

[onebugle]

The subject line should have had one of the #'s in it, but sometimes that gets left out.

An example of what should be in the subject line (as Brian pointed out, not always).

XYZ Fire Department, Massachusetts: EMW-2007-FO-03xxx - Modify Facilities

[Cutlervf]

This is what was in our subject line -

FY 2007 Assistance to Firefighters Grant Program Standard Questionnaire

Sure hope this does not slow stuff down for us!

[BC79er]

Shouldn't, they know what award number, and odds are if it's just the FO on the 1199A that's the one they're asking about.

[Michael33]

anything about dj letters? did not hear anything no award no dj letter

[BC79er]

Nadapeep that I've seen/heard.

[ccmongo]

Syracuse, UT that is. Just recieved the ten questions for an extractor/washer, turnout dryer, and 24 sets of wildland gear (reduced by one set). It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.:D
Onward, Chief Mongo

[BC79er]

Mongo, you're still alive and kicking! And celebrating I see. Congrats. :D

[7Stones]

We are still waiting for some good news too. The FPS proposal has been a good distraction. I wonder if we will hear from AFG, CEDAP, or Hamburger Helper first? Bring on the good news!!!

Jon

[demon641]

No email from DHS but we did get a call from our senator to inform us that the email should be received by us in a few days to officially award us our 2007 AFG grant

[ccmongo]

Brian,
Alive, kicking, soon to be celebrating and still moving things forward, and as always thanks for the help you gave me waaay back when in that class. We're already thinking about next years AFG, because I am not going to be doing this last minute burn the midnight oil thing anymore.
Looking forward to the holidays so I can take a break.
By the way, we recieved our robot from last years Fire Prevention Grant just in time for open house, it was a huge hit.
Onward, Mongo

[BC79er]

What's a break? I keep hearing about those things....

Good deal on the robot, shoot me a pic when you get a chance. I still want one just for around the house. :)

[BFDCO6]

First time posting on this site. Got the email for the 1199A update yesterday morning at 0302 for a new pumper. Now just waiting on the 10 Q's. Also if anyone on here has not taken one of Kurt's seminars, DO IT!! His seminar and continued support for the two departments that I write grants for has been tremendous. I emailed him a few weeks ago because I was getting anxious about my apps. His reply was relax and wait good things are yet to come, and was he ever right. So Kurt again thanks for your help.

Now just waiting for the word on my Ops & Safety & Regional Grants.

[BC79er]

More have been posted, turned another 0-fer into a 1-fer. :) Now to check the rest...:rolleyes: