Knoxville?

[khunter2]

Anybody else in the process for city of Knoxville? I took the written May 12th and physical May 30th. I've talked to them about my status on the list but am curious on when will hear more! Anybody else going thro it?

[Zachary615]

I am going through the same thing. I know my rank but thats it. Any info. on whats next would be great.

[Zachary615]

Well I guess no one else knows. If I hear something I'll let you know.

[khunter2]

yeah, i don't know anything either. i'll keep you posted as well. all i know is that a background packet is next and my ranking.

[Zachary615]

Have you gotten your background packet? When is that supposed to come in?

[khunter2]

No, I haven't gotten the background packet. All I know is that is potentially next step if you have a high enough ranking.

[Zachary615]

Ok, Thanks. I guess now it's just a waiting game.

[khunter2]

yeah, i'll let you know anything i hear. good luck and i wish we could get some more people in the process on here!

[Zachary615]

Still no word from Knoxville. I looked at last years hiring process and it looks like no one heard anything till late July or August, so maybe within the next couple weeks.

[davesoutside]

Hey guys, I'm shooting for a spot at K-ville, too... Does anyone have any good info on KFD's pay and work schedule? I stopped in on a station and they said they work 24 on 24 off for a number of days and get three or four days off? And I think they start out at 27k a year and maybe 31k after your probationary period?

I'm surprised by the lack of hits when you google Knox fire...

[davesoutside]

Hey guys, I'm waiting on word from KFD, too... I heard it's a long process so I'm just gonna forget about it and just be suprised when it gets here...

But I was wondering if any of you guys know any information about KFD's work schedule, pay, benefits... etc.

If anybody has any idea or links to some info, let me know... Good luck!

[Zachary615]

Im not sure about their work schedule or pay. I know it was posted on the City of Knoxville website at some point.

I'm hoping to hear back soon, I'd like to get some kind of info. on what the next phase is.

[davesoutside]

I got my package in the mail today... and I actually talked to the training chief earlier to ask if my NR-EMT would transfer from Florida to Tennessee and he ended up telling me that they anticipate conducting preliminary interviews starting October 8th...

I guess we'll see how it actually goes down...

[Zachary615]

I haven't checked my mail box yet but I did get something from the post office yesterday saying I had a certified packet to pick up. Did your packet come certified?

[Zachary615]

I got my packet today from Knoxville! I have to pick a date between Oct. 13-21 to complete my interview. I hope it works out. I really want this job.

[cmfireguy]

I work for KFD, I am willing to answer any of your questions that you may have. I will tell you all that I know. They will be or have sent out packets for you to fill out a questionaire. (All i have to say about that is whatever you do DON"T LIE) be totally honest about everything, they don't care if you did drugs or whatever, just be honest. They Interview 5 candidates for each position they have open. Right now they have approx. 25-30 openings. Once interviewed the Interview committee will then select about 40 candidates to continue through the process which includes a drug test, medical exam, and a polygraph with KPD. Rumor has it they may even include a psychological evaluation this time. (but I don't know). Once you complete this proccess you have then been selected for the Academy. (Be patient through this process because it takes Forever to complete this process.) We work a crazy schedule but I really enjoy it. it's 24-on 24-off 24-on 24-off 24-on then 4 days off.

If you all have any other questions please feel free to contact me.

Good Luck.

[cmfireguy]

I work for KFD, I am willing to answer any of your questions that you may have. I will tell you all that I know. They will be or have sent out packets for you to fill out a questionaire. (All i have to say about that is whatever you do DON"T LIE) be totally honest about everything, they don't care if you did drugs or whatever, just be honest. They Interview 5 candidates for each position they have open. Right now they have approx. 25-30 openings. Once interviewed the Interview committee will then select about 40 candidates to continue through the process which includes a drug test, medical exam, and a polygraph with KPD. Rumor has it they may even include a psychological evaluation this time. (but I don't know). Once you complete this proccess you have then been selected for the Academy. (Be patient through this process because it takes Forever to complete this process.) We work a crazy schedule but I really enjoy it. it's 24-on 24-off 24-on 24-off 24-on then 4 days off.

If you all have any other questions please feel free to contact me.

Good Luck.

[cmfireguy]

I got my packet today from Knoxville! I have to pick a date between Oct. 13-21 to complete my interview. I hope it works out. I really want this job.



Guys,

I work for KFD, They are starting the interview process in the middle of October. Which means the academy will start Feb. or March. of 08.

[khunter2]

Congrats to both of ya's! Mine is waiting on me at the post office- blah! I have to go pick it up later. Good luck with the interviews and keep the questions/concerns/comments coming to we can all get thro it!

[davesoutside]

I don't want to sound like I'm in it for the money, but what does a firefighter roughly get paid their 1st year? I've seen figures around 27K but I figured with overtime and taxes and all that, that you might know realistically the take home pay is.

Also, what does the pay jump up to after your probie year?

The wife and I are looking to start having kids and I'm just trying to get a gauge on what finances will look like for the wifey and I. I guess we'll be eating ramen noodles and McDonalds cheeseburgers for a while!

[Zachary615]

I believe in Knoxville the starting pay is between 26K to 28K. After a year it goes up but I'm not sure how much. I do know with the City of Memphis the starting pay the first year is 28K then it can go up to 50K+ for a fire recruit based on what certifications you have. It really depends on the city you work for and the certifications you hold. Of course a paramedic would get paid even more. You can try going to the city's website and seeing if you can find the information there, also try calling the HR Department for that city. It's a great and it "PAYS" off in the end.

[davesoutside]

One more question for you, since you're on the Dept.

Have you heard talk of KFD becoming a Rescue Dept., as well? I know alot of larger cities do both and I didn't know if that's something that's been talked about.

[Zachary615]

I'm not on the KFD. I'm trying though. I have an interveiw the first week of October. The person I beleive your referring to is Cmfireguy. He seems to have great information. Cmfireguy do you have any suggestions for the interveiw or anything else for that matter. Thanks

[cmfireguy]

They pay. HMMMM now that is a great question, but first things first. You can't be in this job for the money. You really have to have a love for this career. During your Training your salary is 25,500 which amounts to 775.40 plus or minus a few dollars. After the Academy is over your salary will climb to 27,500 the day you get out of the academy, Plus overtime. The Academy is rough, start running now. and I promise if you get hired here in Knoxville. There is no other place like it. They really take care of you here. Who all has received Backround Packets??

Good Luck

[cmfireguy]

The interview is the Tricky Part. Basically they will ask you questions like if your facing North which way is East. They will also just make sure that you agree to the terms of Employment for instance like the grooming policy. Just wear your "Sunday" Suit. Look your best and try to Impress, because after you leave your interview the panel of 8 will either give a thumbs up or down. Remember they will be interviewing possibly 150 candidates. for only 30 positions. I wish you all the best.

As far as Rescue goes, We currently have one rescue truck and one hazmat truck that can respond as a rescue truck. I hope I answered your question. You you have any more. Please don't hesitate to respond

[davesoutside]

I understand you don't work for the Dept.. If you can see, I keep putting "question for cmfireguy" on the subject line of each of my posts. Not saying that with an attitude, just making sure you don't think I'm an idiot...

[Zachary615]

Well I look stupid, sorry. I hope you get the information your looking for.

[brandon32251]

cmfireguy,

If you dont care to pass out more info about the rest of the hiring process. (i.e. Interview, background, and especially the polygraph). Anything will be a great help. I am presently a paramedic in TN, I have taken the states basic firefighter 56hr. course, and have my live burn 24hr. at the states academy, and am HAZ-MAT operations level. Will these things help me through the interview because I have absolutely no pull in the City of Knoxville. Any indepth info would be great.

[brandon32251]

cmfireguy,

Any additional info you could give would be great as fir as the rest of the hiring process(i.e. background, Interview, and especially the polygraph). I am currently a TN paramedic, I have taken the the states basic firefighter 56hr course and 24hr live burn at the states academy, and I also am HAZ-MAT operations level. Will any of these help me along because I have no pull in the City of Knoxville. Any indepth info would be great. THANKS

[cmfireguy]

As far as the process goes. Read my earlier comments. Just wear you "Sunday" Suit. Be honest. It's great that you are a paramedic. That will give you a big boost. But as far as the fire and the Hazmat, you will have to take it all over in the Academy. For the polygraph, be honest. If you get your background packet in the mail, the polygraph examiner will review that and ask you some similar questions. That's about it with the polygraph, Once you get the Ok from Civil Service. Start running. I am telling everyone that this Academy is the best around. It was my Third and by far the best.

Any other questions feel free to contact me.


Good Luck

[Zachary615]

I got my packet and sent it off last week. Looking forward to the interveiw and other pointers would be great. Does anyone know how long the interveiw is?

[cmfireguy]

The Interviews are blocked for 10-15 minutes. The Interview is the toughest part because after you leave the room. The Interview committee will go around the room with either a thumbs up or down. If you get a thumbs up then they will place you on the contact list or the reserve list. Did you keep a copy of your background packet? They will ask you a few questions on the packet, and if you get to the Polygraph, you will have to fill it all out again to see if there are any discrepencies.

Good Luck.


If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.

[Zachary615]

A buddy and I have a interveiw October 1. Good luck to everyone who has one.

[davesoutside]

Do you know if Knoxville will let you buy prior military time back?

[cmfireguy]

That is a good question,

Yes, The City does give you an option to buy out It is very expensive though. I could be wrong on this, I think they only allow you to buy 5 years. but anyway, Since it is a requirement to attend the Fire Acadmey in Knoxville. They have set up a program where the Military will give you money for attending classes with in the Academy.

Any other questions please feel free to ask.


Good Luck

[Zachary615]

What type of questions will be asked at the interview? What do I need to prepare myself for? Thanks for your help.

[khunter2]

Hey good luck with your interview on Oct 1st. Mine is then too actually. And, to second Zachary's question, what kind of questions should I prepare myself for? Zachary- I know you are coming from out of area, have you got a place to stay or are you making it a one day trip? Let me know cause I'd be happy to help since I'm in Knoxville. Good luck!

[Zachary615]

A buddy and I are staying at a hotel a few exits before downtown Knoxville, probably about 10 minutes away. We are driving in from Memphis Sunday and leaving after the interview, thanks for asking though man. What time is your interview on Monday?

[khunter2]

my interview is scheduled for 4. what about you?
Let me know if you need more directions or anything to help in Knox Vegas. I live about 3 miles from the office.

[Zachary615]

My interview is at 10:15 AM. Yeah... it would be great if you could tell me how to get there. Thanks

[khunter2]

No problem.

First off, the interview is at 900 Hill Ave Suite 430 correct?
If Not, please let me know where it is and disregard the directions below!


Like I said before, I'm coming from right downtown so I don't even have to jump on the interstate. BUT, you will be coming the interstate and one thing that you need to know is that James White Pkwy is closed which is probably the way that mapquest is telling you to go. To be honest, it's going to be a pain if you don't know your way around because they got a bunch of roads on east side of the city closed and stuff. But, here's what I'd do:

Take 40East to exit 388A which I believe is Central Street. You'll see it coming up because the exits right before it are for UT and then the highway will narrow. Get off at 388A and go south or continue south and you'll go over some railroad tracks through the Jackson Ave intersection and then take a left onto E Summit Hill Drive. It should be your 4th or 5th large intersection. This should all be in about 1/2 mile or less. Go down E Summit Hill Drive until you get to E Hill Ave (a mile or less) take a right and then you'll see the business center on the left. Doesn't look governmental at all. keep straight thro there and it'll be the 2nd/last building on right and the office should be right there on the corner.
This is what I'd do because James White is closed but with other possible road closures, it'd be good to have a map or at least print one off of the city.
If you want, send me an email at khunter2@gmail.com and I'll give you my phone number so you can call me should you get turned around and have like 5 mins before the interview- damn that would suck.
Good luck with it!

[Zachary615]

Thanks for the directions, they helped. I went the night before just to make sure I would find it.

I think my interview went pretty well, let me know how you did. Do you know how long it might be till we hear something?

[khunter2]

No problem, glad they helped. Actually, my interview is tomorrow at 4, not today. You said it went pretty well, is there anything you can tell me to help me out? What kind of questions etc? Thanks!

[Zachary615]

It really didn't seem like an interview. It's in a conference room with about 6 people and they ask you questions about your application packet and see if you know what all goes along with being a fire fighter. They ask you if your aware of the working schedule and if you are aware that it's your responsibility to clean the fire house. If you can handle being away from your family, questions like that. It's not what I expected at all. Because the questions were so vague I'm not sure how they go about making the decision if you are on or not. I guess it's their first impression and how you present yourself. Good Luck.

[khunter2]

Hey guys, had my interview Tues; I think it went pretty well. I was surprised by the lack of real subjective questions, instead had all those "yes/no" questions. It was kinda interesting because I'd be getting used to the "yes/no" questions and they'd throw me a real question or the "which way is east question?". All and all, I guess okay. I hate panel interviewing like that.
Not sure when the next thing will happen. I guess it's the medical prescreening or background investigation? Probably be notified via letter on our interview status. Good luck and let me know if you hear anything.

[davesoutside]

At the end of the interviews they ask, "are there any questions you have for us?" and I didn't say a word...

Should I have?

Before my interview I was hopeful about possibly getting hired but I'm starting to wonder... it sounds like you have to go through two or three hiring sessions before you get picked up. Does anyone know if that's the case?

[cmfireguy]

Hey Guys,

It looks like your interviews went pretty well. I told you all that the questions were very in general. It's all on first impression. After you left the Office the Assistant Chief went around the room with either a thumbs up or down. A thumbs up meant you were put on a list. A thumbs down meant Thanks for applying maybe next time. They are still in the process of interviewing, They are interviewing 110 candidates for 24-26 positions. The interviews wrap up Next Friday. From there they will go from your written exam of who gets put on the List or the Reserve List. If your on the Reserve list down panic. They usually select people from the reserve list because candidates usually don't pass part of the background. It Looks like the Middle of March or April for the Academy.

Good Luck, sorry it's been a while since I've replied.


If you need anything feel free to ask.

[cmfireguy]

Dave,

Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 times to get into the Academy, Fortunite for me I was selected my first time Interviewing. I had prior Experience though. Anyway, As far as the Interview goes you always want to ask questions. It's nothing to really worry about, but you want to sound interested in the City. For Instance, I asked Does the City of Knoxville have a 5 year master plan. Are there plans for additional stations. Little questions like that to make them think you are really interested. I hope everything turns out for you.





At the end of the interviews they ask, "are there any questions you have for us?" and I didn't say a word...

Should I have?

Before my interview I was hopeful about possibly getting hired but I'm starting to wonder... it sounds like you have to go through two or three hiring sessions before you get picked up. Does anyone know if that's the case?

[brandon32251]

Hey thanks for your help w/ ansewering our questions. I think I speak for all of us. My interview went really well. They really like the fact that I was a licensed paramedic. I hope that helps me get selected. I do have a question for you, you said in your last post that if you are selected that then they will "go to your written exam", what do you mean. Are they going to go to our scores? Reason I ask is I had just gotten off my 24 on the ambulance and was ran like a scalded dog, so I was really tired and only scored in the 80's. Just wondering if that will hurt me. Also, How long do they normally take to get back w/ you on the interview. Thanks again for your help!!!

[CNSR58]

Hey guys, I just found this forum and I too am involved in the process. I guess waiting like the rest to find out about my interview, which was unlike any other fire interview I have done. I am a fireman in FL hoping to move to TN next year. Does anybody else work for another department? I'll make sure I post when I get the letter, good news or bad.

[Zachary615]

I think I'm worried just like the rest of you. This is something that I'm really hoping for, If I don't get it I know there is always next year.

I am a little worried about the last question they asked, "Do you have any questions or comments"? I told them I didn't have any questions but I commented about my fathers death. He was a fireman for the Memphis fire department and was killed in the line of duty in 2003 in an arson fire. There were a couple law suits involved and I thought they might need to know that information. Do you think this could possibly hurt me?

[davesoutside]

Hey, is there a program of study at UT to get a fire science degree? Any colleges nearby w/ fire service degrees? I have a two-year degree from Cleveland State and IF... I get hired, I'd like to try and continue my education. Isn't there an incentive of continuing your education there?

And is anybody getting letters or packages in the mail, yet? I interviewed on the 2nd of Oct. and haven't heard a thing... That's only two and half weeks, though.

[Zachary615]

No I interviewed on Oct. 1 and have not gotten anything. I'll post when something comes in.

[CNSR58]

Hey cmfireguy. I had a few random questions I have been wondering about. How often does the city burn? What areas get the most fire? I know in my department it is the low income areas. Since the KFD has a long past, are you guys, as a department big on traditions? Do you think the city will take over EMS transport or will they continue to contract with RMA? I know the starting pay is around $26-27K but are there any talks of raises? Does the city have a step plan or are the raises solely cost of living 3.5% What does the avg. FF/PM make? Thanks for reading.

[cmfireguy]

UT doesn't offer a Fire Science Degree. My wife works in the Advising Office there at the University. She told me that they are looking into a program. However it could take a few years for the University to develop the program. On the other hand, If you already have your AS from Cleveland State you can complete your BA or BS degree online at the University of Memphis, They have a great Fire Science in program.

I will be honest with you though. It really doesn't matter what type of degree you have. They just want to see that you spent the extra time and effort to go to school. It will also help out in the promotional process. When I went through the Academy we had a guy that had his Masters in Chemistry.


They haven't sent out the Post Interview forms as of yet. They are still in the pocess of ranking candidates. It will be approx. another 2-3 Weeks before they send out the post packets.


Good Luck

If I can help out in any other way please let me know.

[KFDEngine6]

Hey guys, good luck on the process. From what we are hearing around here, letters and packets should be going out sometime in November if you were chosen to continue in the process. Academy start date looks to be sometime after the first of the year (Mar-April). Good luck and check out our site for more info below:

www.KFDEngine6.com

Good luck!

[CNSR58]

KFDengine6 I like the website. Do any of the other houses have their own website that you know of? Also, looking at the station staffing... what are the differences with FF/Master/Senior? Is it education, years of service, pay?

[brandon32251]

Well, so far so good, I got my letter in the mail saying I was selected to continue through the rest of the process. Thanks for the help along the way. I go November 2nd for the info workshop. How do things work from there. I know the remaining parts of the process, just wandering how long till you really know if your in for the academy. I have talked w/ my friends that work for KFD and they had told me that I should be selected pending I pass the polygraph. I know from last years hiring posts on this that they dropped alot of people during the polygraph. I told the truth to my fullest, but some of my questions are open ended, I just dont want any room for doubt. Also I had talked to the rep. from the civil service to find out if I was on the hired list or the reserve list. She said if you received a letter the you were slated for the academy pending I pass the requirements. True or not? As always thanks for the help, and any pointers you can give for the remainder of the process would be great.

[davesoutside]

Are you from Florida? I see your 32251 and that looks like a Florida zip code... Just wondering. I however, have not got a letter yet. Hopefully I'll see one in the next couple of days. I hope you live in Tennessee because that would mean there's STILL a chance since I live a few hundred miles away... Sheesh.

I'm no medic but I'm hoping my EMT-B cert. and veteran's status looks good... We'll see. Good luck!

[Zachary615]

I haven't got my letter yet but I have a question... brandon32251 you said you got your letter and the info. work shop was Nov. 2, that's this Friday. That's not much notice. When did you get your letter in the mail? Well I'm hoping to get my letter in the mail tomorrow 10/31, but if the workshops Thursday that's not much notice considering I live in Memphis. Is there more then one workshop?

[brandon32251]

hey guys, ansewering your questions--- I recieved certified letter in the mail Friday the 26th of this month. But the postal service first tried to deliver it the 19th. It told me that I was selected to continue through the process and the first step is a mandatory info workshop on Friday the 2nd. I dont know what it is about, but I hear there is a drug test after. To ansewer someone elses question , I am from east Tennessee. I dont know if there is more than one workshop. That would be a question for cmfireguy. I wish you guys luck and hope you get your letter soon.

[KFDEngine6]

KFDengine6 I like the website. Do any of the other houses have their own website that you know of? Also, looking at the station staffing... what are the differences with FF/Master/Senior? Is it education, years of service, pay?

None of the other houses have sites yet...there are a few that are working on getting them up. As far as different ranks go, we have FF (private), Senior FF (Assistant Driver--can ride the back or drive), Master FF (Driver), and Fire Officer (Captain). FF to SFF = 2 years, SFF to MFF = 2 years and MFF to Captain = 2 years. That is assuming that tests are given in that time period and in order. The time table above is just when you are elidgible to test for the next rank. If they offered promotional tests every 2 years for each rank, we would move fairly quick. But, like with anything, if you do well and test well on promotional tests, you will move up...it's like that anywhere.

-www.KFDEngine6.com

[CNSR58]

I was worried too after reading brandon's posting. Nov 2 isn't much notice, so I called and found out that civil service already mailed the letters to the ones who were selected to move on. There could still be hope for you if you call. I found out I was on the alternate list and only need 1 person to fail a portion of the test to continue in the process. They told me that last year they went through all 15 alternates.

[KFDEngine6]

hey guys, ansewering your questions--- I recieved certified letter in the mail Friday the 26th of this month. But the postal service first tried to deliver it the 19th. It told me that I was selected to continue through the process and the first step is a mandatory info workshop on Friday the 2nd. I dont know what it is about, but I hear there is a drug test after. To ansewer someone elses question , I am from east Tennessee. I dont know if there is more than one workshop. That would be a question for cmfireguy. I wish you guys luck and hope you get your letter soon.


Nope, there shouldnt be more than one workshop. This is just to say congrats, give you some information, give you more things to fill out, the formalities basically.

Letters go to the guys that are selected, FIRST. Then, letters go out the rest saying, THANKS FOR YOU INTEREST, PLEASE TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR. But, the alternate list is a good thing, there are ALWAYS people that do not make it throug the polygraph or the background and most times the alternate list is exhausted as well just to fill the holes left from the ones that fail out of the process.

-www.KFDEngine6.com

[davesoutside]

I started sweatin' bullets when I didn't get a letter for this Friday's workshop so I called to see if I needed to be there on Friday if, by chance, there was a possibility that the Post Office was late getting me the letter... She said that the human resource dept. is working on co-ordinating a day that people living far from Knoxville will be able to come and do EVERYTHING in one day (polygraph, urinalysis, etc.) that is IF you're one of the selected candidates. She said that info has yet to be sent and will be shortly. She also said you'll get a letter either way...

Just thought I'd share...

[Zachary615]

So does that mean the out-of-towners still have a chance at a workshop? It's Wed. and still no sign of any letter, even a rejection letter. Same can be said for a buddy of mine who interviewed, nothing yet. Again we are from Memphis so maybe we will get a letter referencing a different workshop. If not there's always next year. Thanks for the info. Please keep me updated on any new news.

[davesoutside]

Yhea, I talked to Vikki and she said they're co-ordinating it so if you live out of the area, you'll get a letter asking you to come in and do the workshop thing and all the other things at the same time. Just like when we took the civil service test and physical agilities test on the same day. All the locals had to do it two separate days. I bet because there will be such a LARGE number of people from K-ville, there's not enough time for them to do all the things in one day like they can with us, since we're a select few... And yes, she said you'll get a letter whether you're wanted or not. So I would wait for your letter... and I got the impression that they've yet to send them out because they're trying to figure out how they're going to co-ordinate all the paperwork and tests.

[Zachary615]

Davesoutside- Thanks for the info. Let me know when you get your letter. How far away are you from Knoxville?

[davesoutside]

I live in Jacksonville, Florida... raised in Cleveland, Tn. though. The wife grew up in Knoxville, too. We're hoping to be moving back to God's country soon!

[Zachary615]

I know. My wife and I have been wanting to move Knoxville for about 3 years now. Getting this firefighters postion would give us a reason to. I've been trying to get on with Memphis but they are only in need of medics right now and I only have my EMT. Well good luck, and again keep me updated if you hear or receive anything.

[brandon32251]

I just got back from the info. workshop. It went exactly like you said it would(formalities). One thing that really concerns me is the HR rep. kept saying "if you pass the polygraph". She said that they started w/ 30 people last year and droped 15 during the polygraph. That was the reason for all 15 alternates getting in last year. Like i've said in my previous posts, I told the truth to the best of my ability. I have done some mild drugs and took some money from my parents when I was younger,and stole some road signs, but, thats about it. I did tell them about it in my background packet. What kind of questions do they ask you? Im just curious because it seems like a stretch that the original 15 last year failed and all 15 alternates passed the polygraph. Any heads up would be great. Also I heard that they will ask you "Have you done anything to get you disqualified from the hiring process". What are the asking for because that seems to be a pretty open ended question? Thanks for the ansewers!

[brandon32251]

Hey guys, When they were handing out the packets to everyone today there were a total of 26 people there, but, there was still alot of packets in the box. I dont know if there were supposed to be more people in the room today or if those packets were for alternates. I am really not sure....but you never know.(if you get what im saying)Good luck guys!

[cmfireguy]

Hey guys sorry its been a while since I've been on. There may be another mandatory meeting depending on the need. IF you received a letter for the mandatory meeting, all you have to do is pass the 3 reqirements and your into the Academy. that easy. the polygraph is not to gig you. he will just ask you questions that you submitted on your packet that they had you filled out. Pretty Simple. Just don't LIE. They really don't care what you did prior just tell them. and be honest about it.

If you haven't received a letter yet don't panic quite yet. It just means your on the alternates list, and you will get a letter when your selected to continue or if all of the positions have been filled.

They have slotted for 27 positions into the academy. Any other Questions?? I will be checking on a daily basis from here on.

Good Luck

[KFDEngine6]

I just got back from the info. workshop. It went exactly like you said it would(formalities). One thing that really concerns me is the HR rep. kept saying "if you pass the polygraph". She said that they started w/ 30 people last year and droped 15 during the polygraph. That was the reason for all 15 alternates getting in last year. Like i've said in my previous posts, I told the truth to the best of my ability. I have done some mild drugs and took some money from my parents when I was younger,and stole some road signs, but, thats about it. I did tell them about it in my background packet. What kind of questions do they ask you? Im just curious because it seems like a stretch that the original 15 last year failed and all 15 alternates passed the polygraph. Any heads up would be great. Also I heard that they will ask you "Have you done anything to get you disqualified from the hiring process". What are the asking for because that seems to be a pretty open ended question? Thanks for the ansewers!

-www.KFDEngine6.com



Tell the truth. They will ask you things both from what you put on your information packet other questions that are not on the packet. For the most part, they have heard it before if you have done it--just tell them about it. Also, last year, they pulled more than 15 alternates because having a group of 45 (30 original and 15 alternates) were not enough to field a class of 30. They kept pulling names until they got 30 qualified people. That's how it happened. And they do ask you open ended questions--just be sure to answer them entirely. Knoxville's polygraph is probably one the most indepth
around but as long as you answer honestly, you won't have a problem, and that's the type of person KFD is looking for.

[davesoutside]

If I something to add to the questionnaire pertaining to STEALING something, should I and will they give me a chance to? I've stolen stuff when I was a kid and TOTALLY forgot about it... That junk was over 13 years ago! Other than that, I don't really have alot of bad stuff to declare... Should I speak up or no?

[brandon32251]

Thanks for the ansewers to my questions. I just cant help to be nervous about the rest of the process. I know that my drug test is clean and I just had a background check through the TBI for my medic license. So to be totally honest the only thing I think would hold me back is the polygraph. I know I shouldnt stress but, It stinks to be so close but still so far away. Also davesoutside post about the background packet, there are a few things that have changed from my original packet....(example: I was not married at the time of the last packet and now I am..... and on the last packet I had no other apps. in with other departments and now I do just in case this job doesnt work out I will have something to fall back on.) Will they give me a chance to change these or not. I really want this job, and dont want to let this oppurtunity for me or any others that are working towards KFD to slip through our fingers just because of what a computer says. I know they want the truth and that is important but its hard to swallow that you can pass this whole process and jump through the hoops they make you and a few words at the wrong time can keep you from getting hired.

[cmfireguy]

What will happen is when you go to the Police Department for your Polygraph. He will make you fill out another questionaire exactly like the one you have to turn in. At the end of it there will be a place for you to add something if you forgot it. BUT, BE AWARE. The Examiner will have a hay day and question why you left it out and all that stuff. Just tell the truth. As you can tell very few people make it through the polygraph. It is a very tough and stressful plolygraph. He had me in the Room for 3 hours. there are camera's in each corner of that room. He will leave the room and tell you he has been paged downstairs. but I really think he just goes into the next room and watches you on the camera. Just teasing. I am not sure what he does. Just be prepaired to be there a while.


Anyway. Good Luck

[brandon32251]

Yesterday I met a fireman whose been w/ knoxville for 5 years. When he took his polygraph his results said that he did not pass. He was then turned over to a appeal board for review, where he explained the ansewers they failed him on. He ended up getting hired. How often does the appeal board reverse your failing status? Also when he took his poly he said he was only there for about an hour, but someone posted that they were there for like 3, so wich is the better time frame for being there? One last thing in earlier posts cmfireguy you said that they ask you questions from your packet, and, kfdengine6 said they ask you some that are on the packet and some that are not, please if you dont care clarify that. Once again, Thanks!!

[CNSR58]

When does the rest of the testing take place? Just curious if/when I will get called as an alternate. Did they give an estimated starting date at the info workshop?

[CNSR58]

I got the answer to my previous post today when the city called me and asked me to come to an info workshop and continue the testing process. I don't know when I go because they left a message on my phone that I got too late, so I have to call Friday morning for details.

[cmfireguy]

Well they ask you several diffenent questions. He will ask you most of the questions on your packet. Then he will ask you other questions, Like do Other people see you as an honest person. Questions like that. It's pretty simple and straight forward. Like i said earlier No sweat just be honest. If for some reason you do fail the polygraph. The examiner will send a letter over to the Fire Department and you will sit infront of the board if they question something or if they want to know more about it. I don't know what all happens in the board because I didn't have to go in front of the board. Anyway. Just be honest and you will be fine.


The Projected start date for the Academy is March. If you haven't received a letter at this point you are probably on the alternates list. It could be up until January or February before you are contacted to attend the workshop. It just depends on how many people fall out of the process.


Good Luck.

[CNSR58]

I got my call that said I was accepted. I just have to complete the rest of the testing. Brandon- when is your poly scheduled? If your background is clean, then don't sweat it. They try to be your friend and then they switch to intimidate you. I did it when I got hired with the FD here in FL. Answer honest and stick to it. I am supposed to go in Dec. Let me know how it goes.

[brandon32251]

Been a couple days since my last post, just wandering if there is any word on how the process is going so far? I know from the info workshop that alot of the guys are starting through the rest of the process. I hate the waiting game. I do not do my polygraph or medical exam till the 28th. How soon do they normally get back with you about your results from that stuff? I hate to beat a dead horse on this topic but Im sitting here sweating saying to myself "did you forget anything". You know it is hard to think back at some of the stuff you did when you were younger. But, Oh well Ive about come to the conclusion that if they really want you then they will hire you no matter what. If I pass then great if not better luck to those on the reserve list. Fortunately enough I am a paramedic and as short as the state is on medics I might find a firefighter job elsewhere. But it would be really nice to work for KFD.

[brandon32251]

None of my references I listed on the back of my packet have received the letters they send out, When do they normally send those out, or should I call to see if somethings up. Just wandering. As always, Thanks for the info.

[jmeals21]

Does anyone here know the schedule for the academy?

[jmeals21]

Does anyone here know the potential schedule for the academy?

[cmfireguy]

They don't normally don't send those reference checks out until you have completed the all the process. Don't panic. It's normal. The city likes to take things one day at a time.

As far as the Academy it is still planning around March or April.

Any other questions feel free to ask.

[davesoutside]

Hey, do you know anyone on the dept. that might know what's up with the process pertaining to out-of-towners? I haven't heard anything and I'm thinking it's getting closer and closer to March/April and I'm not getting anything in the mail...

[brandon32251]

Well I took my poly and med exam on the 28th and passed them both.(according to the poly examiner and the doctor) I know that The background check is left. Ive said before I just had a TBI background check back in August for my medic license and im a medic now so its clean, i know. My reference letters are also turned in. What else will happen? I seen on the sheet they gave me in the info workshop they have a "background review panel." Whats that all about? If your good to go by the background check by the TBI then surely they wouldnt knock you out because of something they dont like this far into the process. That sould have been done before the interview. If you can explain that part of the process that would be great. Also how long estimating till Ill get the letter saying ive passed everything? Like I said Ive passed everything so far and my references are in so I hope that will speed things up. As always thanks for the insight!

[cmfireguy]

Hey, do you know anyone on the dept. that might know what's up with the process pertaining to out-of-towners? I haven't heard anything and I'm thinking it's getting closer and closer to March/April and I'm not getting anything in the mail...



Daveoutside,

I actually work for the City Fire Department. If you have not been contacted at any point you probably are on the Reserve List. Which means you basically have to wait for someone to fall out of the process. It mayb be after christmas before you find anything out. If you get a letter to come to the workshop they will do all three exams while you are in town. You will definately find something out. The city will NOT "leave you hanging". Hope this helps you.

[cmfireguy]

Well I took my poly and med exam on the 28th and passed them both.(according to the poly examiner and the doctor) I know that The background check is left. Ive said before I just had a TBI background check back in August for my medic license and im a medic now so its clean, i know. My reference letters are also turned in. What else will happen? I seen on the sheet they gave me in the info workshop they have a "background review panel." Whats that all about? If your good to go by the background check by the TBI then surely they wouldnt knock you out because of something they dont like this far into the process. That sould have been done before the interview. If you can explain that part of the process that would be great. Also how long estimating till Ill get the letter saying ive passed everything? Like I said Ive passed everything so far and my references are in so I hope that will speed things up. As always thanks for the insight!



Brandon,

The city does their own investigation as well as a TBI investigation. If your TBI Investigation came back clear with your Paramedic. What the City will do is take Investigators and go to where you live and Talk to your Neighbors, and some family members and anyone of your past employers. They just want to make sure your a good guy. Nothing to worry about. If you have gotton through the poly and the Medical I would say your good to go. Since you already have a medical license. They first 8 weeks will be manual labor for you. The first 8 weeks will be EMT class. You will be doing Hose Testing and Ladder Testing, and odd ball stuff.

[CNSR58]

Like you said above, if I have my paramedic license, then the first 8 weeks will be odd jobs. Well what about if I have FF2 already? The director of the TN Fire commssion e-mailed me back and said my FL cert is reciprocal to TN. I still have not had anybody explain to me why certified/experienced FF's go through the fire academy. If I get this job though, I'm not going to complain because I want to get on with KFD. I'm sure I will learn some new things and be reminded of the stuff I forgot. I still have to do my poly, drug and medical exam next week, but that will all be clean.

[davesoutside]

I called the Admin offices this past Monday and she said I'm 3rd on the reserve list. Are my chances pretty good that I'll be contacted?

[cmfireguy]

I called the Admin offices this past Monday and she said I'm 3rd on the reserve list. Are my chances pretty good that I'll be contacted?



Davesoutside,

Yes, you still have a good chance to get in. Basically your waiting for 3 candidates to drop out of the process.

Simple as that.

Good Luck.

[cmfireguy]

Like you said above, if I have my paramedic license, then the first 8 weeks will be odd jobs. Well what about if I have FF2 already? The director of the TN Fire commssion e-mailed me back and said my FL cert is reciprocal to TN. I still have not had anybody explain to me why certified/experienced FF's go through the fire academy. If I get this job though, I'm not going to complain because I want to get on with KFD. I'm sure I will learn some new things and be reminded of the stuff I forgot. I still have to do my poly, drug and medical exam next week, but that will all be clean.



CNSR58,

First of all let me tell you I feel your pain. I started the Fire Service in 2000 in Charleston, SC. I moved to Knoxville because my wife is from here. I asked the same questions thinking I was too good to go back through another Academy being that I was already medically qualified and have my FF II.

However,
What you will develop with the other candidates during the Academy is something that you will cherrish for the rest of your career. Also the simple explaniation to that would be that the Fire Department wants to make sure you are going to do things the way they want it done. Granted it may be the same way, but how does the Training Staff Know that unless you go through the Academy. If you have your FFII already the best thing you can do for yourself and for your classmates is to STEP UP and become a leader.

Sorry to be so blunt about it but that is the way it is. The Training Staff will look to you as to someone to "Teach" the candidates. If your certificates do transfer you will not have to take the State Written Exam when the other students do.

Any other Questions feel free to contact me.

[CNSR58]

I thought I had read somewhere that after completing the academy you will be tech level hazmat and VMR. Is that true? I think what is going to be the hardest part about going through fire school again is the mon-fri 9-5 or whatever the hours are.

[KFDEngine6]

Like you said above, if I have my paramedic license, then the first 8 weeks will be odd jobs. Well what about if I have FF2 already? The director of the TN Fire commssion e-mailed me back and said my FL cert is reciprocal to TN. I still have not had anybody explain to me why certified/experienced FF's go through the fire academy. If I get this job though, I'm not going to complain because I want to get on with KFD. I'm sure I will learn some new things and be reminded of the stuff I forgot. I still have to do my poly, drug and medical exam next week, but that will all be clean.

To echo CMFireGuy, you will get more out of the academy than just HAVING TO GO. It's more than a requirement and I'll tell you this: if it is a big deal having to go through the academy, there are plenty of other guys who would kill for your spot!

I will tell you this too, a very GOOD way to get a very BAD reputation even BEFORE you start the academy is by coming into it with an attitude like that! The minute you start thinking that you do not have to go through the academy because you are 'more qualified' than the next, trust me, your instructors AND the guys on the job will be there to make sure you know just who you are...not even the rookie yet!

Good luck.

(What's up Medley?)

-KFDEngine6.com

[cmfireguy]

What's up Bell.


You still playing football?

What do you think about getting a basketball team going??

[KFDEngine6]

What's up Bell.


You still playing football?

What do you think about getting a basketball team going??

Football, baseball, & hockey.....I'm always up for basketball too.

[CNSR58]

Engine6- I apologize for my previous post regarding the academy. I think it was either typed or interpreted wrong. In no way am I complaining, having an attitude or assuming I am too good for it. I realize there are plenty of people that want to be in my shoes, that is why my next line was... I'm not going to complain, I want to work for KFD and I am sure I will learn some new things in the academy. Again I apologize, I just did not understand why the city required people with emt and fire certs to go through the school a second time.

[KFDEngine6]

Engine6- I apologize for my previous post regarding the academy. I think it was either typed or interpreted wrong. In no way am I complaining, having an attitude or assuming I am too good for it. I realize there are plenty of people that want to be in my shoes, that is why my next line was... I'm not going to complain, I want to work for KFD and I am sure I will learn some new things in the academy. Again I apologize, I just did not understand why the city required people with emt and fire certs to go through the school a second time.

I got it....no problem. No need to apologize.

It is team building and getting to know how things are done our way and to make sure that you can hack it. That's it.

[brandon32251]

Any word on how the process is going so far. I received my letter saying I had passed the medical exam, but, I still have not received any word on my background check. None of my family or neighbors have been contacted yet. I talked with Vicky Dalton and she did not know what the hold up was. Any of you that work for KFD have a clue? Also, I was looking at my background packet and noticed that I ony put a phone number for 1 of my previous employers.(mainly because most of my past employers are out of bussiness) Will that hurt me at all. I have talked with my boss NOW and I know that I am getting a good reference from him, do you think thats all they will need? Post anything you can, and, as always thanks for the insight.

[brandon32251]

If any of the KFD guys are still reading this post have ya'll heard when the background review panel is going to meet? Its getting close and still no word yet if Im in or out! thanks for the help.

[CNSR58]

I called Linda Pardue the other day and asked her that. She told me that the background review panel had not even set a date as to when they will meet. She still says they are hoping to start some time around March. I hope I find out soon... I still have to sell my house in FL and move. I'll be sure to post if I find anything else out.

[brandon32251]

I e-mailed her before christmas and I got the same reply. Have you done your poly and your medical exam yet?

[CNSR58]

I finished all my tests Dec 13th. I got the medical test results... passed and the poly detective said I passed so now its just waiting.

[brandon32251]

Congrats on getting through the process so far! I dont know if you have read some of the earlier posts between me and the KFD guys but if you passed everything so far I would amagine your good to go. I have talked with some of my friends that work for KFD about the process and to be quite honest they really didnt know what could drop anyone from the process now unless your a felon or an illeagal alien, but, who knows........ its politics right. (just kidding) Good, bad, or indifferent keep me posted when you hear anything!

[brandon32251]

I called and spoke w/ Vicki and she said they were planning on doing the background review panel at the end of this week and early next week. She said they were still waiting for one of the panel to find time to meet. Hope the info helps.

[davesoutside]

Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone is hearing anything... I'm third on the reserve list and Vicki said the committee (when they meet) will make cuts, if need be, and call up some of the reserves to come do polygraphs and such. I'm just wondering if there's any word out there because I'm looking at an offer down here in North Florida and I'd RATHER come back home to work in Tennessee...

[brandon32251]

The fire dept is conducting "their" background check right now. They came and spoke with my neighbors on the 23rd, so, I called my friend thats works for KFD and it will still be a week or two before the panel meets. Keep your fingers crossed because another friend of mine said there wasn't alot of people in the original 27 of us that failed the poly or the med exam. Good luck and post when you hear something.

[Jrod1750]

hey

I currently live in estero Florida i just graduated the academy down here but no one is hiring and im going to Knoxville for a couple of weeks and im thinking about moving up there but i would like to know how the hiring is up there before i make a big decision.

[davesoutside]

I talked to Vicki Dalton this past Thursday. I'm 2nd on the alternate list and I'm wondering exactly HOW much notice I'll have if I'm lucky enough to get called up to fill any positions. She said the background commitee meets on Fri. 15th and should contact any disqualified applicants that following Monday in which they'll be given a chance to appeal. From that point, she suspects that they'll send out letters on the 22nd to any alternates that might be needed.

Just some info I came accross...

[cmfireguy]

The review panel will meet Feb. 15th to go over all the applicants that were selected. On that following Monday they will be sending out rejection letters or confirmation to the Academy Letters. You should have them by Friday Feb. 22. That following Monday they will be contacting any alternates that they need by letter which you should receive a letter by certified mail within that week. It will have a time for you to do your Orientation Workshop with all the other pre employment exams that follow. They are still expecting to start the Fire Academy around the Middle of March. Currently they are working on a bunch of promotions that take priority. Which should also be completed around the middle of March.

My advice for the guy in North Florida, It will be hard for you to make all these arrangements to get moved up here and settled before the Academy Starts. (unless you have friends or family here to help) Once the Academy starts you won't have to do anything else. I promise you that.

Hope this helps some of you out.

Good Luck.

[brandon32251]

What do they go over in the review panel? Do they just see if you have passed your pre-employment tests(poly,TBI background, med exam)? I've heard that if you passed those then the review panel gives you the thumbs up. Just curious. Thanks for the info.

[LtBambam1]

Hey guys, E-mail me at LtBambam1@aol.com

[brandon32251]

Did the review panel meet Friday? Its Thursday and I havent been sent anything yet. I only live 15 minutes from Knoxville so the mail only takes a day to get to me from there. Also is this letter certified or not? Also is this the last letter I have to look for or will they send another before the academy? If you are able to respond back please do. Thanks.

[CNSR58]

This is the e-mail reply I got from Linda Pardue yesterday....

"They did meet last week and will meet again this week. The Fire department will notify candidates who are scheduled for an appeal. When I receive the list from the Fire Department, I will notify those applicants who have passed their background. You should hear something within the next couple of weeks."


Hopefully when she wrote couple weeks, she meant days.

[cmfireguy]

Hey guys Letters went out. The next step will be to come in a get fitted for your gear and uniforms. The way it sounds it will be April 14th when the Academy will start. I also heard that they may wait until the next budget year to start due to Budget Issues. If I get any further information I will let you know. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

[CNSR58]

What month does your budget year start?

[cmfireguy]

July 1 - June 30

Good Luck, If you have any further questions feel free to ask.

[CNSR58]

congrats! hopefully I get mine today in florida.

[brandon32251]

Got my letter in the mail on tuesday!!!!! I'm in whenever they decide to start the academy. I hope its in april and not june or july. Anyway thanks again for the help throughout the entire process, I look forward to working alongside you at KFD.

[CNSR58]

Finally got my acceptance letter!! I'll miss my current FD crew, but am excited about meeting and working with everyone at KFD. Time to pack up the house in FL and head to TN. Also, to those who are on the reserve/alternate list- apparently 7 people were rejected through the appeal process so the 6 reserves left on the list should be contacted to continue through the process, so good luck.

[davesoutside]

What do you mean by that? I'm second on "the reserve list" does that mean NINE people would have had to drop out to get the job or are you saying I'll be getting a letter? I haven't been asked to anything since the initial interview so I'm guessing I'm not going to get a letter unless more drop out. I'm a bit confused so I'd appreciate any concrete info you have and where in Florida do you live? I'm in Jacksonville but I'm thinking I might get an offer from St. Augustine/ St. Johns County in the next two to three weeks...

[brandon32251]

Hey congats on your letter! One thing, you may want to call viki dalton or vicki hatfield to find out when they might be starting the academy. I dont know if you read cmfireguys post but the might not start till the new fiscal year which is in july. After I read that i called a few of my friends that work for them and they told me the same thing. Not really any of my bussiness but I dont want you to move up here and have to find a job for a couple months... Thats all. If you do decide to move and they dont start until july and your a EMT-IV or even better a Medic and want to work a ambulance for a while till the academy, let me know, I might be able to help you. Once again congrats.

[CNSR58]

The way I understood it when talking to vicki dalton was 7 people were rejected from their background. There are only 6 left on the reserve, so all of them should be contacted to go through the rest of the testing- medical, polygraph and background and committee review. As long as you pass all of those you should be selected, but as far as you wanting concrete then you should call and hear it for yourself in case I misunderstood, but the letter I received states that several people still need to complete the testing.

[CNSR58]

Thanks. I spoke to vicki dalton the other day and she wasn't sure when the starting would be other than they want to start it soon. Either way I am ready to get out of Orlando, so I am moving the last weekend of March. I am a Medic but I have to wait for the reciprocity which could be 4-6 weeks, but I did consider working something like R/M at least to keep my skills up.

[davesoutside]

I got a call from Linda Pardue today. She said I'm sceduled to do med tests, poly, drug screen and all that junk on April 1st and I asked if the rumor or possibilty of a June/July recruit date is being talked about and she said that's news to her... I'm just glad I'm getting a shot at working for KFD! I hope I get to go to recruit training with you guys!

[dsblev]

You are correct, there are not alot of web hits when you google, yahoo, or msn search the city of knoxville. There are a copy of new sites that are available for station information from www.kfdengine18.com. The official city site is www.cityofknoxville.org/kfd.

The beginning pay has increased since I went through the academy. It was officially 25,500 when I started several years ago and it has gone up to either 26,500 or 27,500. For the first 28 weeks you will be assigned as firefighter recruits and will be on a 40 hour work week going through the rigors of EMT school, Fire School, Vehicle Extrication, Haz-Mat Tech school, etc. You obtain a large amount of knowledge throughout the academy and you come our with the same large amount of certifications.

Once you graduate, you are promoted to the position of firefighter. You are on a probationary period for 1 year starting the day of your graduation. I am not sure of the difference in pay as I did not have this change in position, it was created after my hiring. Following your graduation you have 2 years before you are eligible for promotion to senior firefighter or "assistant apparatus operator". 2 years following promotion to senior you are eligible for master and promotions from there up.

Hope this helps some. Welcome to those of you who make it. I look forward to seeing you in the stations, or first in haz-mat school.

dsblev
www.kfdengine18.com

[dsblev]

I apologize about the timing on my prior e-mail. I had not read all the posts prior to posting, and now that I have I must say congrats to all of you who are coming to start the academy. What have they told you as a start date right now.

I hope to see some of you all at the academy, and then out in the company. Once again, congrats.


www.kfdengine18.com

[brandon32251]

They told me a while back that they wanted to get the academy started around April 14, but, there has also been rumur that it will be in June or July because of the fiscal year. Dont know???? Well if you know anything please share.

[davesoutside]

I asked Linda Pardue that smae question when she called me on Wednesday and she said that was news to her and she's only heard that everything is on track as long as they can get all the trainees paperwork straight...

Who knows for sure...

[cmfireguy]

Ok, If you were on the reserve list and have been selected to be attend the Medical, Psychological, and all the other required paperwork, It will take longer than 14 days to get all your info back to the city. Plus you all still have to be fitted for Gear, and fitted for a uniform that will take at least 4-6 weeks to get in (if your lucky). I am not trying to put a damper on anyones parade. But anyway, Good luck. I am sure I will see everyone out at the Academy.

[brandon32251]

Anyone heard anything else on when they plan to start the academy? Also good luck davesoutside on your upcoming tests.

[dsblev]

Ok, they have had to post again for more applicants. As most of you all know this process will take a little while. Last I had heard was that the class will be after the new budget year which begins 1 Jul.

Good luck to you all,



www.kfdengine18.com

[CNSR58]

Does the city consider working for R/M a conflict of interest? If not, I guess that is what I will do if we don't start until July.

[blainedead]

The city website shows that KFD is taking applications until April 10. If I put in for this, can I look forward to the year or so of testing, interviewing, and waiting, or is there a chance to get in on this upcoming academy? It shows a test date of May 3.

[Maverick88]

Blaine,

You're still looking at a year for the hiring process. You should still apply, get on the list, and change your mind later if you so desire. See you in class. :)

[brandon32251]

As far as I know the city does not look down on working for R/M. That is who I'm a Paramedic for now.( I work for Blount County R/M though) Also alot of the guys I know at KFD work there part time job at ProMed, which is a BLS only service but they pay more the R/M.

[CNSR58]

Last time I was up there I talked to someone at the Blount County office but thy did not have any Medic openings. She told me to try knoxville. I read something about R/M negotiating a new contract, do you know anything about this? They would not give me any info because I was not a member and it wasn't final yet.

[brandon32251]

well who ever told you we didnt need medics lied to you. This entire state is in dire need for medics. Knox county is good to work at though, but, Blount county is a little more laid back. When you move let me know and if you want to work here till the academy Ill get you set up. As far as a new contract.... they will give you a 3,000 dollar bonus and it is about to go to 5,000 dollars if you sign a year contract w/ the company..... Like I said before this state is so short on medics its crazy.

[davesoutside]

Hey does anyone know if this July 1st is date thrown out there is absolute? I'd have to move from out of state and that extra time would be nice...

[Maverick88]

The April 10 application deadline is for the next class, so you have a year of hiring stuff to go through. See you in class :)

[brandon32251]

To be completely honest with you and not trying to be a smart ass, they have no idea when they will start the academy. They might have an idea but nothing is concrete until they do the other set of exams on April 1st. If you called today and asked they would tell you one thing and if you called tomorrow they would say something different.

[cmfireguy]

Guys and Gals,

Here is the deal. This is the most up to date info I have for everyone that has been selected or is in the process of being selected. April 1st the City will be reviewing all of the applicants that were on the reserve list. That will take approx 2 weeks. Then they will have to complete the Poly, Background, Medical checks and that could take another month or so. Once the Fire Department has everyone scheduled for employment. Then you will need to go to the Uniform Shop and get fitted for you Uniforms. This will take approx 2-3 months to get all your uniforms in. It's looking like a July 7th Start date or even an August 4th start date. Hope this helps some of you guys out. All I can say is be patient, it will all work out for the best and it will all be worth it. Trust Me.

[cmfireguy]

Everyone who is selected to be hired
WILL be contacted via Certified Mail Please do not bombard the Secretary's with questions. Just be patient, It will happen sooner or later. We are still about 90 people short.


Thanks

Cmfireguy

[brandon32251]

Thanks for the info. You said they are reviewing the apps on april 1st, but, davesoutside said he goes to do poly, med, etc. on that date. Also The class last year went just a coulpe weeks before their class started to get fitted for there uniforms. Why would theres only take weeks and ours take months?

[brandon32251]

Do they send your letter about the starting date to you certified or what were you talking about?

[Zachary615]

Everyone who is selected to be hired
WILL be contacted via Certified Mail Please do not bombard the Secretary's with questions. Just be patient, It will happen sooner or later. We are still about 90 people short.


Thanks

Cmfireguy

Cmfireguy I hope you can answer this question... You said they are still 90 people short. I interviewed with the Knoxville Fire Department this past October. I received a letter stating that I was not choosen but I'll remain on the elegibility list. If they need 90 more people why haven't I been contacted? I have my EMT, I passed everything, no problems with my background information except for my father being killied in the line of duty 4 years ago. Any info you could provide would be great. Oh... I have also reapplied since the position has been posted again.

[cmfireguy]

By the books we are still 90 people short. It's all about the money, We can not train 90 people at one time. That just doesn't happen. When I attended the Academy we had 36 candidates and at times that number was too many.

I am sorry you haven't received an appointment as of yet. I do encourage to keep applying. Keep your hopes up and Work on your INTERVIEW SKILLS. As I have said in earlier posts. Your interview is only 15 minutes long. You have 15 minutes to Impress the 9 members of Interview panal. Think of questions you can ask. Most people think they can BS their way through an interview. That is not the case here. Just because your already an EMT doesn't mean that you have a "LEG" up. Their are multiple reasons the Interview Panal denies applicants. I don't know your case. But it is your decision to Remain on the list for this next time or Retest. The City is currently accepting applications for this years Test. Deadline is April 10th.

Good Luck,

If you have any questions please feel free to ASK.

CM

[brandon32251]

If you get a chance reply to my questions.... I'm curious

[cmfireguy]

Yes you will get a letter saying to go to the Uniform shop, and the reason it may take longer is because the uniform store that has the City Contract takes longer. That is why.

[mts4602]

I am in college at the University of Louisville. I am looking to finish school next spring. It sounds like if I applied for the next class I could still finish school before the academy starts? Does this sound possible since the academy this year isn't even starting until the summer?

Also, what are the medical requirements? I am blind as a bat but I wear contacts and my corrected vision is 20/20. I also have an anxiety disorder for which I take medication, but I am fine with the medication. I'm assuming I'd fail the medical, but is there a way to appeal it?

Thanks,

Matt

[Zachary615]

By the books we are still 90 people short. It's all about the money, We can not train 90 people at one time. That just doesn't happen. When I attended the Academy we had 36 candidates and at times that number was too many.

I am sorry you haven't received an appointment as of yet. I do encourage to keep applying. Keep your hopes up and Work on your INTERVIEW SKILLS. As I have said in earlier posts. Your interview is only 15 minutes long. You have 15 minutes to Impress the 9 members of Interview panal. Think of questions you can ask. Most people think they can BS their way through an interview. That is not the case here. Just because your already an EMT doesn't mean that you have a "LEG" up. Their are multiple reasons the Interview Panal denies applicants. I don't know your case. But it is your decision to Remain on the list for this next time or Retest. The City is currently accepting applications for this years Test. Deadline is April 10th.

Good Luck,

If you have any questions please feel free to ASK.

CM

Would it be best for me to retest or stay on the eligibity list?

[cmfireguy]

That is up to you. I can not tell you what to do. It would have to depend on your ranking.

[Zachary615]

That is up to you. I can not tell you what to do. It would have to depend on your ranking.

I guess my question is if I retest and I do better will it raise my ranking and if I do worse will it effect my current ranking.

Thanks for all your advice.

[cmfireguy]

Yes if you reapply they will go based on your current exam. So It is totally up to you. Thanks for your Interest in the Knoxville Fire Department.

They have exausted all of the candidates on the reserve list. 23 have already been cleared now they are waiting on 7 reserve as long as they pass all the preliminary qualifications.

Thanks

[CNSR58]

Well, I made the move to TN even if we don't start until late summer. I put in my application for Rural Metro. I requested the Knoxville location, hopefully that way I can learn the area, protocols, and meet some of the KFD crews.

[brandon32251]

Do you know how they did so far with the people they tested April 1st? You said in your last post that they were waiting for 7, were you talking about the people that done there pre-hire tests the 1st? Hopefully they got all the people they needed!

[Maverick88]

I am in college at the University of Louisville. I am looking to finish school next spring. It sounds like if I applied for the next class I could still finish school before the academy starts? Does this sound possible since the academy this year isn't even starting until the summer?

Also, what are the medical requirements? I am blind as a bat but I wear contacts and my corrected vision is 20/20. I also have an anxiety disorder for which I take medication, but I am fine with the medication. I'm assuming I'd fail the medical, but is there a way to appeal it?

Thanks,

Matt


Matt -

I am just guessing here but I'd be willing to bet you can finish up school before the academy. I plan to knock a year out at UT while I'm waiting.

I don't know much about the requirements...I've just turned my application in as well.

Good Luck!

[davesoutside]

I was in the race for one of the seats in K-ville's recruit class but in the year it's taken, I got a job down here in St. Augustine FL and start on Monday. I wish I could afford the move up to Knoxville but this just seems like the best deal for us. Good luck to everybody!

[brandon32251]

Congrats on the job. Its good to know there putting you to work asap. Good luck in your career stay safe.

[cmfireguy]

Guy's Just an update, They have expired the List for this next Academy. If you have not been confirmed for employment, you can retest in May. There are 27 candidates selected to continue. Still not sure on a date for the Academy. It's still looking like July or Aug.

[mdstn0696]

Guy's Just an update, They have expired the List for this next Academy. If you have not been confirmed for employment, you can retest in May. There are 27 candidates selected to continue. Still not sure on a date for the Academy. It's still looking like July or Aug.


CMFIREGUY,

thank you for all the info that you have supplied. I talked with Linda in HR and she said the tentative date for the acadamy was the week of June 8th. I am hoping that is accurate. Thanks again for the info and I look forward to working with you.

[CNSR58]

When did you speak to Linda? I talked to her last week and she did not have any idea when the academy would start, because they still have not had the background review for the reserves.

[mdstn0696]

When did you speak to Linda? I talked to her last week and she did not have any idea when the academy would start, because they still have not had the background review for the reserves.

I got an email from her wed and she said she inquired as to when the acadamy would start and the tenative date is June 8th week. BUT letters would not be sent till the date was a definate. I hope it is soon.

[cmfireguy]

It is not scheduled for the week of June 8th, The Training Staff has not received any information on a start date. We would like to start June 8th. It will happen when it happens.

[mdstn0696]

It is not scheduled for the week of June 8th, The Training Staff has not received any information on a start date. We would like to start June 8th. It will happen when it happens.

Thank you for the info. Like I said, that is just what was communicated to me this week. Thank you for the clarification.

[mourgent]

When is testing going to occur in May for KFD and who can I contact?

I am moving to Knoxville in September and I would like to go ahead and get in the process. I can move sooner if I need to and get a job.


Im a local Volley in TN now, but I already have FF-I so hopefuly that will help. Any advice on who to contact to do a long distance hire kind of thing? I can drive to Knoxville for interviews and stuff, but its a few hour drive.

Also, are there any paid departments around Knoxville that I should possibly look into?

Thanks a BUNCH for the help.

[CNSR58]

The new proposed budget and step pay plan for firefighters looks good and promising for potential growth in the future. It looks like everybody would be getting a pretty good raise. If I am reading it right, we should be starting this year as recruits at $29,034 instead of $26,500 when we applied. KFD guys I know this is new, but what is the word around the stations about this budget?

[Maverick88]

When is testing going to occur in May for KFD and who can I contact?

I am moving to Knoxville in September and I would like to go ahead and get in the process. I can move sooner if I need to and get a job.

Im a local Volley in TN now, but I already have FF-I so hopefuly that will help. Any advice on who to contact to do a long distance hire kind of thing? I can drive to Knoxville for interviews and stuff, but its a few hour drive.

Also, are there any paid departments around Knoxville that I should possibly look into?

Thanks a BUNCH for the help.

KFD is testing this Saturday, May 3rd, but applications had to be turned in by like April 15th.

Rural/Metro fire is in Knox Co. they have a list waiting right now for their next academy, so you're looking at about a year wait with them.

Are you currently an EMT or Paramedic?

[dsmns27]

Regarding the class start date, just curious b/c i am scheduled to take the written test also. The class date you all are referring to is the class starting from the last process. correct. So, basically its takin over a year for the process and the start of a class from one process. Just trin to get an idea of a time frame of how long KFD takes before a class is started from a hiring process.

[Maverick88]

Regarding the class start date, just curious b/c i am scheduled to take the written test also. The class date you all are referring to is the class starting from the last process. correct. So, basically its takin over a year for the process and the start of a class from one process. Just trin to get an idea of a time frame of how long KFD takes before a class is started from a hiring process.

From the test date of May 3rd, we will have a year or more before the academy would start for us if we get in.

[CNSR58]

Regarding the class start date, just curious b/c i am scheduled to take the written test also. The class date you all are referring to is the class starting from the last process. correct. So, basically its takin over a year for the process and the start of a class from one process. Just trin to get an idea of a time frame of how long KFD takes before a class is started from a hiring process.

I applied April last year, went through all the tests, passed and still waiting for a starting date, so yeah expect a year. Good luck on the test, take your time and read the questions carefully.

[cmfireguy]

Ok, here is the scoop. The Mayor announced his "proposed" budget to the public yesterday. It still has to be approved at two City Council Meetings for this Budget to go into effect July 1. If it is approved a Recruits Salary will be approx 29,000 a year. The city is really comming along well Improvements are taking place. As for the Academy, They are wanting to start June 9th, but they haven't even started on the Uniforms as of yet and they require at least one month notification of the start of the Academy. So it's looking like July 7th. Maybe even Aug. It's hard to tell right now. If your waiting for the Academy, just be patient. Start running if you haven't yet, your going to need it, especially in the heat of summer.

Those of you that have recently applied, your test is Tomorrow, May 3rd. I am sorry to say but, it may be a few years before the Fire Department has another Academy. As we will be 100% fully staffed after this Academy Starts. Of course + or - a few for retirements. My advice to you would be to Study hard, and be real patient. I would test and forget about it and just wait until you get letters from the Civil Service.

If any of you have any further questions please feel free to ask.

CM

[brandon32251]

I know you said it was kind of in the air rather it would be july or august but realistically when do you think it will be.The reason I ask is my wife is pregnant and is expecting the first week of October, and when I leave my present job I will lose my insurance. If the academy starts in July then I will have insurance by the time the baby comes but if its august then not.She does have insurance but she is about to have to leave her job on the ambulance. Just curious.

[cmfireguy]

Honestly, I can not say. I am just a pee on when it comes to those types of decisions. I gave you what I thought, I know this doesn't help much at all. Also give this some thought. You will not be privilaged to any type of Leave after the Birth. Sorry I haven't been any help.

[brandon32251]

Thats ok. I had talked with Linda when we found out about the baby and she said the same thing you did, thats ok though my wife is going to stay at home. Theres not a chance in hell after going through this whole process that I would not take the job.(What can I say....I love it.) Well, thanks anyway.

[CNSR58]

I got my letter today certified mail. The starting date is June 9th at 8:00 am.

[cmfireguy]

June 9th is the start date. JUST HOPE THAT YOU ALL HAVE UNIFORMS BY THEN. "YEAH RIGHT'' Good Luck at getting your uniforms in. Well congratulations for the 27 that made it into the Fire Academy. I will see you all out there. This is a decision that will change all of your lives. It's the best job in the world. Just remember what I've said from the begining. If you have any kind of experience, Put it aside and just go with the flow and make the best out of it. Don't be cocky just be confident and expect to show what you can do by being a leader and not by being "better than anyone esle". The truth is your all there for one main reason and that is to help the Citizens of Knoxville. There is no better feeling than that.

Good Luck

CM

[brandon32251]

I have my card saying I have a certified letter to pick up, I got it in the mail today, The problem was I was on shift today and I will also work Monday so I cant pick it up until Tuesday..... When are they fitting for uniforms? Just dont want to miss it. Thanks

[CNSR58]

Fitting is any time Mon-Fri. within a week of receiving the letter at Kay Uniforms in Knoxville.

[cmfireguy]

Good Luck to those who Start Monday. I will be out there a few times I am sure.

[Zachary615]

I tested this summer and passed everything. I haven't heard anything since. Are they still on a hiring freeze? Any info. would be great.

[CNSR58]

It is a long process... just hang in there. I am in the academy now and have not heard anything about hiring freezes. Rumors are rumors and you will hear a lot of them. If you passed the written and physical you should get a background packet eventually. Hint on that- don't lie and make a copy for yourself in case you get asked to fill out another.

[dsblev]

There are many rumors flying around the KFD right now. One of them is that they will attempt to start a class soon after the current one graduates from the academy the middle of December.

Now this does not mean that they will start before the beginning of the year. There are still several steps that they must accomplish prior to starting the class. First, they must schedule the interviews based on your civil service written and physical (pass/fail) scores. Then comes the background checks / medical / drug tests. Now in this area let me give you a piece of advice. DO NOT LIE. Let me say it another way, DO NOT LIE. They will find out, they will not hire you, and if it takes a longer period than normal to find out and they begin to hire you, they will not take you and we may lose a position in the academy meaning that we will lose a position in the companies meaning we are again short staffed. DO NOT LIE.

Secondly, if you are not interested but think you may be find out early. Same thing as above. If you come here wanting to start the academy and back out at the last possible minute, your position is gone. We will not be able to get that position back and you put the department short staffed.

Be prepared, once they start the process it will probably go pretty quick, however you will probably not see anything until after the first of the year.

[Zachary615]

I went through the whole process last year and got all the way to the interview, but wasn't chosen. I just remember last year (2007) we were already done with interviews by October. So that's why I was wondering this year why its taking so much longer. I heard there was a hiring freeze, but like you pointed out it could just be a rumor. I assume the class that is going through right now is the one that tried out in 2007. It would make sense that they would wait till this class was finished to put another one through.

Thanks for your feedback and hopefully my background packet will be sent soon.