Omaha Test

[firefightertobe]

Anybody hear anything yet? How many are they interviewing? Hiring?

[Mack22]

I recently got my letter saying how I did on the test. Without saying where exactly I placed, I can say that I did really well and am looking forward to the next round, hopefully getting an interview with the chief. The letter didn't say anything about how many or when they will be hiring, only that the list goes into effect on May 5, 2007 and lasts for one year. Good luck to everyone else, and let us know if you hear any more information. Also, someone that might have gone through the interview before, what is it like and what type of questions do they ask? Thanks for the help.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

I'm really surprised this list is only good for one year. I don't ever remember the list only lasting one year for Omaha. I did better than I thought I would...I just don't know if it's going to be high enough to get an interview or not. I would have better odds if they extended the list for another year.

[firefightertobe]

The word on the street is that 100 letters will be sent to random people on the list for background packets.

[TheCrow1994]

Thanks for that info, firefightertobe. If I hear anything, I'll try to keep everybody updated, too. :)

[firefightertobe]

I received a letter the other day wanting more information about EMT history, FFI, Hazmat, etc. I assume everyone on the list got this letter?

[Mack22]

Any new information on when Omaha will be hiring and how many? I got a letter recently asking about the different qualifications I have and to send it back, but it didn't say anything about background packets, hiring (how many and when), or anything else. Thanks.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Yep. I got that same letter, too. I haven't heard anything else yet. It's pretty hard to find out how many Omaha will hire. I think the union contract negotiations may play a role in how many retire soon. I've been told that this is a good list to be on. :)

[TheCrow1994]

Study says police, fire departments should downsize
BY KAREN SLOAN
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER



The Omaha Police and Fire Departments should downsize in order to save money, according to a much anticipated efficiency study.

Full details on the $275,000 taxpayer-funded study are being released Tuesday, but The World-Herald has learned of several key recommendations.

The Police Department could eliminate 36 officer positions and hire some lower-paid civilian employees to help fill the gap.

The study also recommends reducing the number of firefighters from four to three on each pump and ladder truck.

The City Council hired Matrix Consulting Group, a California-based firm, to conduct the study. The firm has examined police and fire departments in more than 20 cities in the past two years.

Matrix President Richard Brady outlined the study's findings for Mayor Mike Fahey, City Council members and several city administrators Monday.

Fahey will wait to read the full study before commenting on the recommendations, said his Chief of Staff Paul Landow. Brady told Fahey that the study concluded that both departments are meeting performance standards, Landow said.

"The mayor was told we have outstanding police and fire departments," Landow said. "We're pleased with that."

There's no certainty that the mayor or City Council will make any of the recommended changes.

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It will be interesting to see how this plays out.....hopefully the city council and mayor are for keeping 4 on a truck.

[TheCrow1994]

Saw this little tidbit in the Omaha World Herald last night. If this number stays the same or increases, looks like there could be quite a few new hires this next year or so. I wonder if they will extend the current eligibility list, if needed?

"The City of Omaha is seeing a wave of retirements this year in both the police and fire departments, largely because those who retire under current union contracts will have pensions that are a larger percentage of their salaries than ever before. City officials are pushing for changes in the new union contracts.

So far, 103 — 54 firefighters and 49 police officers — have filed papers indicating they will retire in 2007, said Carol Ebdon, finance director for the city."

[Beiner]

So far, 103 — 54 firefighters and 49 police officers — have filed papers indicating they will retire in 2007, said Carol Ebdon, finance director for the city."

If that's true, then you guys are in nearly a once-in-a-lifetime event. With that many retirees, this is the year to be an Omaha candidate. My cousin's on the oral board in Lincoln and sounds like Lincoln doesn't need too many FF's this year so it's Omaha's turn.

I shouldn't have read that. It makes me sick to know that I couldn't have made it to the test this year.

[TheCrow1994]

Beiner,

I tested in Lincoln the last time they held the test. I'm on their eligibilty list, which got extended another year, but I'm not planning on seeing a second interview with them. I am extremely excited about the possibilities of getting an interview with Omaha. If they interview 2 or 3 people per position opening...I fall within that range.

[TheCrow1994]

More updated numbers....according to the Omaha World Herald.

"The rush for the exit door has become more crowded than expected, as Omaha police officers and firefighters are retiring in bunches.

The Fahey administration had expected about 100 police and firefighters to leave their posts before the end of the year. The number who have told the city of plans to retire has reached 115 and probably will grow to 125.

Fifty-four firefighters and 49 police officers have filed their retirement papers. Twelve more firefighters have notified the department they intend to retire yet this year."

[SSIaerialmanTIM]

The Police Department could eliminate 36 officer positions and hire some lower-paid civilian employees to help fill the gap.

The study also recommends reducing the number of firefighters from four to three on each pump and ladder truck.

I have to say gents, I think it is pretty messed up when the mayor of a city needs to hire a consulting company for $275K to tell him his “departments are meeting expectations” and then tell him where cuts need to be made.

I am going on record publically to tell all of you out there *(including you Mr. Mayor)*that reducing people on a truck in particular, from 4 to 3 is a big mistake. This kind of behavior is nothing new from Mike Fahey with his infamous “hands off” management. Quint means FIVE (5) operations. Four people should be a bare minimum.

Back to your hire discussion gents and good luck! TL

[TheCrow1994]

With all due respect, TL, it was Omaha city councilman Dan Welch who spearheaded the consulting company study. Mayor Fahey was against the study from the beginning and is AGAINST the recommendation of reducing the number of firefighters on a truck. Either way though, you're right, that's a lot of wasted money.

[SSIaerialmanTIM]

Well good for him then! It appears I was wrong about his involvement in this. I have just been seeing alot of news on this downsizing lately and never saw him speak out against it.

Too bad about the money though - there goes some good wages or proceeds toward a new apparatus. TL

[TheCrow1994]

Published Tuesday | August 28, 2007
Omaha City Council approves 2008 budget; won't reduce fire staff
BY RICK RUGGLES
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER


A push to cut firetruck staffing from four to three firefighters failed Tuesday during Omaha City Council budget discussions.

The issue dominated budget deliberations, provoking hard words between Council President Dan Welch, a proponent of the reduced staffing plan, and Omaha Firefighters Union President Darren Bates, among others.

Welch and Councilman Franklin Thompson cast the only votes in favor of trimming the budget by $6.9 million by cutting Fire Department positions through attrition.

The council passed virtually the same budget proposed in July by Mayor Mike Fahey. Fahey wanted to keep the property tax rate at 43.387 cents per $100 of assessed valuation, and the council agreed.

The council voted down a proposal by Councilmen Chuck Sigerson and Jim Vokal to reduce that rate by a half-cent per $100 of assessed valuation.

The argument over Omaha Fire Department staffing lasted 90 minutes. Welch repeatedly referred to an independent study issued this summer by Matrix Consulting Group. The study suggested, among other recommendations, that the Fire Department could cut firefighter positions without significantly reducing the level of fire-protection service it provides.

Citizens offered the council conflicting views of the notion. Rodney Rea said reduction of the staff size on firetrucks is "long overdue. And it's a drain on city resources — it's got to be curbed."

Stacey Anderson, however, said she lives next door to a fire station in northeast Omaha and respects the service they provide the city. "Every time I hear that alarm go off and they leave, I say a prayer," Anderson said.

Before any debate took place, Councilman Frank Brown asked that a decision be made immediately by "calling the question" to a vote. Brown said it made no sense to have a budget proposal for three firefighters per truck when the city has an ordinance calling for four per truck. The council decided, however, to hold what amounted to a public hearing on the issue.

Welch came back to Brown's call later in the debate. "I've been here for six years and never has anybody called the question before a proper debate on the issue," Welch said.

Bates, the fire union president, accused Welch of having a personal political agenda in pushing for the staff reductions. "You don't care what we say," Bates said.

Welch fired back at Bates. "You didn't like the Matrix study results," Welch said, calling himself a mere messenger for an important matter. Then he noted that Bates is a City Council member in Council Bluffs — a city in which firetrucks generally are staffed with three firefighters.

Other council members, however, said the message they heard from Omahans is that they did not want to tamper with public safety. "If you don't have public safety," Sigerson said, "you have nothing."

After his proposal went down, Welch was the sole council member to vote against passing the 2008 budget.

That budget sets the general fund at $269 million, up about 3.4 percent from 2007.

The budget the council approved featured only two minor changes from Fahey's proposal in July. The budget passed Tuesday included $1.1 million in the general fund for annexations approved this month on the West Maple Road corridor, and the council increased anticipated cable franchise fee revenues by $168,000 and allocated them to the contingency reserve account.

The council also postponed until Sept. 18 a vote on the Omaha Capital Improvement Program, a six-year strategy for capital projects. That postponement means the overall budget could be tweaked by the council.

Omaha property owners next year will pay the same tax rate they have paid since 2002. The rate of 43.387 cents per $100 of assessed valuation means the owner of a $100,000 home will pay about $434.

The City of Omaha has managed to collect more property tax revenues without raising the property tax rate the past several years. Assessed valuation for a typical home in Omaha has gone up about 35 percent since 2002.

Consequently, homes valued for tax purposes at $100,000 six years ago will have a valuation of about $135,000 now. That increase would raise the city property tax paid by the homeowner from $434 in 2002 to $586 in 2008.

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This should open up the door for interviews to start soon. Good luck everyone!

[TheCrow1994]

I received a background packet from OFD's Background Investigation Bureau today. So be on the lookout for this to show up via the mail soon. Looks like things are progressing forward at this point. :)

[Mack22]

I too received my background packet in the mail this weekend. I am finishing it today and getting everything in the mail as soon as possible. Hopefully they get things going soon, I am so excited to be at this stage, I just hope to be chosen for a chief's interview. I talked to HR and they said they weren't sure about a timeline for interviews or even when an academy would start, and didn't even think the chief knew for sure either. Keep us all posted to any new news about Omaha and the hiring process. Thanks and good luck to everyone.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Keep your eyes peeled for a letter concerning making an appointment for a Chief's interview. They should be arriving this week to all that make it to that step in the process. Good luck!

[Mack22]

Crow,
How do you know that they are going out this week. I am just curious, but you seem to always have a lot of information and it is always correct, do you have a contact or something? Did they get all the background checks done this fast that they are sending out letters for chief's interviews? Any idea of what kind of stuff they will ask in a chief's interview? I have only made it to the civil service interviews but never chief's, so I am pretty anxious and nervous. Not to get ahead of myself, but I really hope I get the letter. Thanks for all the information and keep it coming. Good luck to you Crow.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

I'm not sure if they've completed all the initial background checks or not. I just got a letter in the mail today about the Chief's interview, that's how I know about the letters. I live in Omaha, so I'm sure I get the mail the day after anything is sent out. The letter states that we have until Friday at 4 pm to schedule an interview. Sounds like it is going to be a one on one interview, too. Good luck to you, too, Mack!

[TheCrow1994]

I know that not all of the Chief's interviews have been completed yet, but does anybody have any idea how much longer they will be doing interviews and what is the next step? Any information on notification process for those fortunate enough to continue?

Thanks.

[Mack22]

Crow,
Sorry but I can't help you out as to when they will let us know about the next step, but I have my interview Oct 9, and I think that is probably the last week they are conducting interviews. I am not sure what the next step is, but like you, I am getting excited. Good luck in your interview and all the other steps.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

Good luck to you, too. Hopefully we both make it through to the next step in the process. I guess if there's one thing we learn through all this...it's patience. I'll let you know if I hear anything after the interviews are completed and if you could do the same for me, that would be great. Take care.

[Mack22]

I just had my chief's interview today. I think it went really well so I am crossing my fingers now. I did talk to someone in the department today and they let me know that they wouldn't necessarily let you know if you were still in the mix for being hired after the interviews. The next step is to let the chief decide who to hire, then send out stuff to your references. So if they are getting stuff, they will probably tell you and that would be a very good thing they said. Also I heard probably around 40 for a class, but they weren't sure when the class would start. I don't know about previous classes, but 40 sounds like a big class. I have a good feeling about being on this list. Let us know if you guys hear anything else.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

I'm glad your interview went well. Good luck the rest of the way. I know from reading some info in the news lately that they are looking to hire at least 66 new firefighters from this year's retirees alone. Our list will probably get extended another year, too. So, our list should be good until early Summer 2009. This is just speculation on my part...but I bet they go with 2 classes of 30-35 recruits each.

Well, I guess now we just hope that our references start getting questionaires, eh? Let me know if you hear anything else, and I'll do the same for you. Do you know if today was the last day for interviews, or not?

Thanks. Take care.

[Mack22]

Crow,
Don't know if today was the last day for interviews, but they said it was the last week. Any idea of how many they interviewed overall? And yes, I will let you know if I hear anything else.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

Approximately 200 candidates interviewed over the last 3 weeks. I wonder, if we do make it to the next step, how soon we'll hear anything?

[TheCrow1994]

Anybody hear anything new yet? I'll take rumors at this point. :D

[Mack22]

No, I haven't heard a thing. I was like you today, just wanting to know something. I have been trying not to think about it since the chief's interview. I thought I did well so I was hoping to hear about a class. I haven't called the department at all, but I might in the next couple of weeks just to see if anything is taking place. I'll let you know if I find anything out.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

That's exactly how I feel, too. I just want to know that the process is moving forward...with or without me.

Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

I heard a rumor that OFD is back to interviewing more candidates on the eligibility list.


"Recently, the Omaha City Council voted to change hiring practices of the Fire Department and the Omaha Police Department. Instead of considering only the top-ranked candidates, the chiefs will be able to reach further down their lists to hire any qualified candidate.

City administrators have said the new procedure will give the departments more flexibility in hiring women and minorities.

371 job candidates who passed initial firefighter tests in 2007 are eligible for hire."

[Soma99]

I spoke with someone who is most likely lower on the list, im not sure just a feeling. He told me two weeks ago that he did have an interview schedulded for 11-06. So that is true they did interview more candidates.

[Soma99]

I spoke with someone who did have an interview on 11-06, so that is true they did interview more candidates.

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

Did you get invited back for a second interview? I heard they made it up to at least the mid-80s on the eligibility list for a second interview. I know you scored really well on the written test and figured you were pretty high up on the list.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99, thanks for the info/clarification. The more info the better. Anyone else out there know what is taking place or what has taken place so far or even what might take place in the future?

Thanks in advance...

[Soma99]

I got a call today and was invited for a second interview next week, this interview is at the backgrounds office. Has anyone else got the call or already been through this interview?

[Mack22]

I haven't gotten a call or letter for a second interview, but I am far enough away that the letter might not be here yet. Still hoping. I thought I did well on the first interview. If I hear anything I will let you all know.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Nope. No letter or call for me either. I thought I did well in the first interview, too, so I'm still holding out hope. Also, keep in mind that the eligibility list is good for 2 years. So, there will probably be more opportunities for employment along the way.

[Mack22]

Does anyone know how Omaha does their interview process? For instance, after first round interviews, if you don't get called back for a second, does that mean that you are out of the running for a job? I know some departments have it that if you don't get a second interview that they move on to people lower on the list. I just want to know if I don't get a second interview and hired for this first class, do I have a shot at the second or third class, and can I get another interview later? Thanks.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

From what I understand, you still have a shot to be hired later on even if you were not given a second interview now. This is what I had heard prior to the rumor of OFD interviewing everyone on the list at least once. The only thing I can think of where they would not go back to you the second time around is if you failed to disclose pertinent information on the background packet, which would be an automatic DQ, I believe. Sorry I don't know for sure...this is just what I have heard in the past. I don't know if the process has changed recently or not. Good luck!

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

Did you have your 2nd interview yet? How did it go? Have you heard what your next step is going to be?

Thanks.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Yes I did have my second interview, it was fairly simple, they just went over my background packet and made sure everything was accurate and they recorded the interview. Not sure of what is going to be next I will keep you posted if I hear anything, also let me know if you hear anything from anyone else.

Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

A friend of mine made it to the second interview last week, too, and said he had to schedule an appointment for fingerprinting this week. Did you have to schedule an appointment, too? That's the latest I've heard. I'll post more if I hear anything else.

[Soma99]

Crow,

I did get a call today telling me that I needed to schedule an appointment to get fingerprinted later this week. Thats all they said, so if I find out anymore I will let you know. Thanks.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Did your friend have his fingerprinting on wednesday, or was it scheduled for another day. I was just wondering how many groups they planned on fingerprinting, im just curious.

Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

From what my buddy told me tonight, he had his on Wednesday morning. I don't think he was offered a choice of doing it on another day. He said the total number of people in the two groups was around 50.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Yeah I also was in the Wednesday morning group, they had two groups one at 8 and another at 10. I was just wondering how many candidates, they were fingerprinting.

Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

From the sounds of it, you and my buddy have the same info. So, it looks like it was a little less than 50 for fingerprinting.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. If you or your buddy hear anything more could you please pass it along.

Thanks again.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I sure will. He usually calls me right away to tell me good/bad news concerning his status with OFD.

[TheCrow1994]

From KETV.com

"In the fire department, 34 new recruits will start training after the first of the year and another 14 firefighters will transfer in from other area departments."

I believe the 14 transfers are beginning on January 2nd. I've heard a Jan.-March start date for the other class.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Did you hear if they have offered jobs to the 34 new recruits or not? I am assuming they have offered to the 14 transfers by now. I have not heard anything since the fingerprinting and I am kind of curious if they have done anything since that time with any of the recruits. Thanks for the info.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

My buddy said he got a conditional job offer. I know that he has not been on a fire department previously, so I'm assuming he would not be included in the 14 lateral transfer class. From what he told me, he still has to pass the psych test and medical exam before he is considered to have a job with OFD. Now whether or not all 34 recruits have been given the conditional job offer...he didn't know. I'll try to find out more info.

[Soma99]

Crow,

That is great news for your buddy and somewhat bad news for me. Do you know when your buddy got his offer? I guess I'm just holding out hope that I still might get an offer. Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

He must have just gotten the offer this week. He told me about it just a few days ago. I wouldn't give up all hope just yet. I'm not. From all the numbers and articles I have read, it looks like OFD needs to replace about 78 firefighters who retired this year alone. So, from that math, there will be more classes off this list.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not really giving up hope, I just thought I had a really good chance of getting an offer on this first class, especially after the fingerprinting. But I guess it's back to waiting and hoping I get a letter soon. And good luck to you also I hope you hear something soon. Thanks again, and if you guys hear anything more please share the info.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I imagine, and this is just a guess of mine, but if you passed your fingerprinting, drug test, and background interview, you should definitely be one of the first in line for the next class if you are not chosen in this first class. I'm sure they take a larger number of people to the fingerprinting, drug testing, etc. than they initially intend to hire. Keep your head up!

[Soma99]

Crow,

I'm sure your right, and I also talked with a friend of mine who works for OFD and he said they might not have finalized the list yet. So I still might have a chance for the first class. Thanks for your input. My friend did tell me that the first full might start sometime in Jan. If your buddy does find out when the class starts, or how many they have offered to, could you let me know. Thanks.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I sure will. I'll let you know as soon as he tells me something. The conditional job offer, from what I gather, is dependent on passing the medical exam and psych exam/evaluation. I would guess that some people don't pass these two steps for one reason or another. If you don't make it through on this first class, it's going to be just a matter of time for both of us. If there's one thing you learn from this process...it's patience.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Have you heard anything lately? Just wondering when the first class is going to start. Or have you heard anything for the second class? I haven't heard anything in a while.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I talked to my buddy last night. He said he finished up his psych evaluation a couple of weeks ago and now he's just waiting word on when the academy is going to start. He mentioned hearing something about a possible mid February start date, but nothing has been finalized.

As for a second academy, I have not heard a word. I do think, just by looking at the numbers, that a second academy is very likely. I'm guessing 30-40 recruits in the first academy, plus the 13-14 lateral transfers/fast track firefighters who just finished their evaluation period. Omaha had 75 firefighters retire last year alone, so hopefully for us, there will be a second academy. I'll let you know if I hear anything more.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I heard the other day that another class will be starting around Feb. 11th. From what I gather, this class is made up of FF1 and EMT-B qualifiers only. I'm not sure the length of time they will be in the academy, but I've heard between 3-5 weeks. Supposedly, there are about 15 recruits in this class.

[Mack22]

Crow,
Did this class for February interview recently or are they all from the last round of chiefs interviews? Also, have you heard if they are going to be having another round of interviews for classes later this year? Thanks for posting anytime you find something new out.

Mack

[TheCrow1994]

Mack,

No problem. I believe all of these new recruits/lateral transfers were from the same group my buddy and Soma99 were in, when they went for their background interviews, drug tests, eye tests, etc. back in the end of November. I have not heard anyone mention more interviews taking place since the initial ones back in Oct.-Nov. I'm not sure if there will be more interviews later on, other than the background interview if you are selected to move on in the process. I have no idea how many people they plan on hiring this year or next year, but I am holding out hope that I will get a call some day. From the totals I've heard, 13-14 lateral transfers + 15 FF1 & EMT-Bs = 29 recruits. If all the numbers are correct, I would think they would still need to hire a pretty good number still (75 retirements last year alone).

[Soma99]

Crow,

You are right on, I heard the same thing the other day. I was wondering if your friend has his/her FFI because I guess that is what they were hiring for in the class starting in mid Feb. I don't so I am hoping to make the next class if they have one. Thanks for keeping us who don't know much posted I appreciate it.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

Nope. He doesn't have his FF1 certification either. So, it looks like the next class could be all those people that only have EMT-B or less. From what I've been told, there will be another class after the mid-Feb. academy. How many recruits, I don't know. What I did hear was the FF1 class starting in mid-Feb is only going 3-5 weeks, and the next class will be right after, or possibly start during the last part of FF1 groups academy.

I'm glad I can help in whatever way I can. I don't know a whole lot, but I do keep my ears open for any news concerning OFD. ;)

[Soma99]

Crow,

Have you heard if they have offered out conditional job offers to all of the possible recruits for the class following the FF1 class. I know you said your buddy already got one and now he is just waiting for the next class, I am just curious if they have already offered out all the positions or if this (FF1 class) creates more openings for us who did not get an offer. Thanks again.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

I have not heard one way or another whether all the conditional job offers have been sent out or not. For our sake, I'm hoping not. :D I guess it depends on how many will be in the potential 3rd academy in comparison to how many people were at the downtown station with you and my buddy.

[Soma99]

Crow,

There was around 50 people there that day. So hopefully they do replace all 78 that retired last year, and soon. I'm just trying to be patient. Do you have some type of inside source or do you just get your info from your buddy. You seem to know alot, I'm not complaining I just wish I knew as much as you do.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma99,

My buddy tells me about everything he's gone through and what his next steps are going to be in the process. That's where I get most of my info. I do know some OFD firefighters, but it's mostly rumors or speculation I get from them. I wish I had an inside source. Then, I wouldn't be going crazy waiting to hear something. ;)

[Soma99]

Crow,

I hear you, I only know a few OFD firefighters and that is it. I really don't know them that well either so I'm pretty much in the same boat as you are. I'm just looking for any type of info or advantage as I can get. So thanks again, and good luck to you, I hope we both hear something soon.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Have you heard anything lately? I haven't heard much. I was just wondering if your buddy started the academy, when they are supposed to be done?

[TheCrow1994]

Soma,

Nope. I haven't heard anything official lately. But, I heard a rumor of another possible class starting in June. Hopefully, we will get a call for that class. I think my buddy's class just completed their training last weekend.

[Soma99]

Crow,

Did your buddy tell you how many was in his class? Did this last recruit class do a full academy? I also heard they might do another class soon, but it might be for EMT and FF1 again.

[TheCrow1994]

Soma,

If I remember correctly, there were about 18-20 people in the class and I think it went around 4-5 weeks long.