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brianinatree
03-15-2007, 05:00 AM
hey do you guys know of any accelerated EMT courses that are in the summer or any websites/phone numbers or just anything regarding that?
like July or August.... =]
thanks!
mach158
03-15-2007, 08:58 PM
your best bet is to get in contact with your local community college or possibly even an EMS service near you.
I know around here (cedar rapids-iowa city, IA) they offer a program where its two-three weeks i beleive but its 8-5 everyday for that two-three weeks. Also costs alot more too.
Geinandputitout
03-15-2007, 10:35 PM
http://www.uihealthcare.com/depts/emslrc/
brianinatree
03-16-2007, 04:14 AM
alrihgt i will look into it..
by the way i live in southern california 8]
Dineyrules
03-18-2007, 11:41 PM
There is a company in Bloomington Indiana that has EMT-B accellerated in a two week course (very intense) and a Paramedic Program that is accelerated as well. Their website is http://www.emtinc.net . Their phone number is 1-800-339-7914
It costs the same as going through a college course somewhere around $800- $900. They are a good group to work with and they really do know their stuff. I took the course and I passed the NREMT exam with flying colors. I do have more of a medical background before doing this class but there were others coming in the class greener than green and they passed as well. They are there to really make sure you know your stuff before you move on. They are running classes all of the time. June 3-16, July 8-21, July 29-Aug 11 and many more.
I hope this helps you out!
emt161
03-19-2007, 01:49 AM
Yeah, this is just what we need- LESS education in EMS. Just pack em in and ram em through.
Sigh....
MondoMarcus
03-20-2007, 05:35 PM
Yeah, this is just what we need- LESS education in EMS. Just pack em in and ram em through.
Sigh....
He would be getting the same hours of training as anyone else. One month is 160 hours. 40 hours more than the California requirement... I think.
Besides, that is intense stuff. Alot of work.
emt161
03-22-2007, 01:42 AM
He would be getting the same hours of training as anyone else. One month is 160 hours. 40 hours more than the California requirement... I think.
Besides, that is intense stuff. Alot of work.
You say it like 160 hours is sufficient to have someone's life in your hands.
hydrotech
03-22-2007, 03:15 AM
i have to agree with emt161. too much info to hold in such a short amount of time. plus does this place require ride alongs and clinicals?
MondoMarcus
03-23-2007, 12:34 AM
You say it like 160 hours is sufficient to have someone's life in your hands.
All I'm saying is that it is sufficient enough for everyone else, so why not for him? If 160 hours isn't enough, then why is that the state standard?
I'm not saying it's the right way or the wrong way to go, but if he passes the class, and the national registry, then shouldn't that be good?
Dineyrules
03-25-2007, 02:39 AM
Yeah, this is just what we need- LESS education in EMS. Just pack em in and ram em through.
Sigh....
The Accelerated EMT class is the same hours as the regular class just not spaced out over six months. So it is not less of an education and quite honestly if you can pick things up a lot quicker than others then why not. The Accelerated class is an intensive program that is not for everyone.
So EMT161 I can understand your frustration of thinking they are just ramming people through. But you need to fully understand that the program follows the guidelines set by the NREMT with the highest standards and it still comes down to the fact that the people taking this class still have to take and pass the same exam in ordered to be certified.
So I really don't understand your position on this? How would taking an accelerated class make you less of an EMT? You still have to do the same clinic hours and class hours?
HewittC4
03-25-2007, 11:28 AM
UCLA's center for prehospital care offers a 2 week EMT course. They have an excellent training staff. But, I agree with EMT161. This is a lot of information to cram into a short amount of time. To disagree with those that state it is the same amount of hours, yes, it is the same number of hours taught, but there isn't enough time to study and absorb the material.
If you have an EMS background already, then I would say go for it. If not, then it might be a little much and I would recommend calling one of the community colleges.
armymedic571
03-25-2007, 02:18 PM
it is possible for some one to go through an accelerated program and succeed, but it is not the type of thing you just let anyone do. Selection process' for these types of programs should be more stringent.
doughesson
03-26-2007, 02:41 PM
I was watching "Rescue Warriors"on the National Geographic channel about the Air Force's Pararescue program and they run classes through in 6 months for the Paramedic portion.In the "sidebar"interview shots,they mentioned it was hard going through several entire chapters in a day and then two weeks testing on all of them with no review.
In the training shown,they set you back a couple weeks if you fail until you either learn it or they figure that you CAN'T learn it and remove you from the program
They did have weeklong ridealongs and clinicals,which I would have appreciated to help cement the knowledge better.I don't know if I could hack a Paramedic course in 6 months though.But,that's just me.
i have to agree with emt161. too much info to hold in such a short amount of time. plus does this place require ride alongs and clinicals?
mjmallo
04-25-2007, 02:34 PM
Check out http://emtinc.net. or call 812-824-7975. Theses folks are located in southern Indiana and ofer accelerated EMT classes all the time. hope this helps. be safe
futurechief1
04-29-2007, 06:28 AM
Just so eveyone knows, the NATIONAL standard requires 110 hours of classroom plus 8 hours riding and 16 hours of ER clinical.
I am currently taking the EMT-B class through my local junior college which extends the classroom time to 155 hours. I don't think that this is even close to adequate, but I think, for me, that this is due to how my lead instructor sets up the class.
I firmly believe that the best thing for eveyone(students, those already in the service, and future patients) would be the benefit of more field time form students. I don't mean putting them in the field with a license and having them learn it all there, but more that students should be required to do more ride times to get hands on training with real patients under the direct supervision of more experienced personel. I say this because I will be done with my class in a few weeks, but I feel unprepaired to actually go into the field with full faith in my skills and abilities. Again I think this has a lot to do with my program.
For those in the field, instead of making negative comments on an internet forum, why don't you take a stand and try to correct this if you believe it to be a problem. Plus, you should embrace the fact that there are more than enough people that want to follow in your footsteps. You shouldn't be badmouthing the current students, but should be helping them. It should be an honor for you to know that people like you yourselves inspire so many others. If you don't understand this, then your probably in this for the wrong reasons. If you truly believe that this is an issue, take a stance with the current administration. Get off you but and DO something to make the changes. Keep in mind that most people that get involved in the decision making process haven't been active in the real world in some time. You input is what is needed to change this.
My lead instructor has "25 years" of EMS experience, but hasn't been active in over 10. What current real world training can she pass down to us??? We need a system that is up to date with REAL knowledge. We can read our books all we want, but we won't really "learn" anything unless we have people dedicated to teaching us current things. Instead, to often it happens that we get brushed under the rug.
Who do you think really NEEDS to change?
Firemedic 61
05-02-2007, 05:31 PM
We have a few of these "fast track" emt and paramedic classes here. They offer quick classes that can get you into the field faster than any of the community colleges if you are willing to pay the big money they charge. These schools, and I am only speaking for my area, teach the students how to pass the NREMT and paramedic tests, not acctually how to be emt's and paramedics. They can't even sit for the Florida emt and paramedic exams because the schools are not recognized by the state. They use a loop hole that says if you were trained in Florida and passed the NREMT test you can get a Florida emt or paramedic patch without taking the state exam. I do some of the pre-hire testing for our department and I can't belive what some of these people do durring scenerios. They might know to give medication X for symptom X because thats what the AHA says but, they have no idea why. It's no thier fault, thats what the learned in school. In my opinon these "fast track" schools should be shut down and the community colleges should open up more classes. Like I said, I am only speaking for my area.
KevinFFVFD
05-11-2007, 12:36 AM
i will be going through an accelerated emt class this summer. it will run for 8 weeks and we meet every monday, tuedsay, and thurday and every other saturday. we will be taking the same amount of hours as a regular emt class and all of the same information. but we will be going over several chapters per class and be taking in a lot of information quickly.
THEFIRENUT
05-11-2007, 07:02 AM
My lead instructor has "25 years" of EMS experience, but hasn't been active in over 10. What current real world training can she pass down to us??? We need a system that is up to date with REAL knowledge. We can read our books all we want, but we won't really "learn" anything unless we have people dedicated to teaching us current things. Instead, to often it happens that we get brushed under the rug.
Who do you think really NEEDS to change?
If she is a good instructor, she can teach you what you need to know without taking the time to give you "war stories" that back up her teaching.
Most of us know that in taking an EMT course, we are just learning the basics. We will really start learning when we hit the streets.
Geinandputitout
05-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Just so eveyone knows, the NATIONAL standard requires 110 hours of classroom plus 8 hours riding and 16 hours of ER clinical.
I am currently taking the EMT-B class through my local junior college which extends the classroom time to 155 hours. I don't think that this is even close to adequate, but I think, for me, that this is due to how my lead instructor sets up the class.
I firmly believe that the best thing for eveyone(students, those already in the service, and future patients) would be the benefit of more field time form students. I don't mean putting them in the field with a license and having them learn it all there, but more that students should be required to do more ride times to get hands on training with real patients under the direct supervision of more experienced personel. I say this because I will be done with my class in a few weeks, but I feel unprepaired to actually go into the field with full faith in my skills and abilities. Again I think this has a lot to do with my program.
For those in the field, instead of making negative comments on an internet forum, why don't you take a stand and try to correct this if you believe it to be a problem. Plus, you should embrace the fact that there are more than enough people that want to follow in your footsteps. You shouldn't be badmouthing the current students, but should be helping them. It should be an honor for you to know that people like you yourselves inspire so many others. If you don't understand this, then your probably in this for the wrong reasons. If you truly believe that this is an issue, take a stance with the current administration. Get off you but and DO something to make the changes. Keep in mind that most people that get involved in the decision making process haven't been active in the real world in some time. You input is what is needed to change this.
My lead instructor has "25 years" of EMS experience, but hasn't been active in over 10. What current real world training can she pass down to us??? We need a system that is up to date with REAL knowledge. We can read our books all we want, but we won't really "learn" anything unless we have people dedicated to teaching us current things. Instead, to often it happens that we get brushed under the rug.
Who do you think really NEEDS to change?
Your right "futurechief" you've got all the answers. This does not seem like a solicitation for information -- more like a wannabe chief that has all the answers after 10 minutes of education.
Geinandputitout
05-16-2007, 07:45 PM
We have a few of these "fast track" emt and paramedic classes here. They offer quick classes that can get you into the field faster than any of the community colleges if you are willing to pay the big money they charge. These schools, and I am only speaking for my area, teach the students how to pass the NREMT and paramedic tests, not acctually how to be emt's and paramedics. They can't even sit for the Florida emt and paramedic exams because the schools are not recognized by the state. They use a loop hole that says if you were trained in Florida and passed the NREMT test you can get a Florida emt or paramedic patch without taking the state exam. I do some of the pre-hire testing for our department and I can't belive what some of these people do durring scenerios. They might know to give medication X for symptom X because thats what the AHA says but, they have no idea why. It's no thier fault, thats what the learned in school. In my opinon these "fast track" schools should be shut down and the community colleges should open up more classes. Like I said, I am only speaking for my area.
In my area the "fast-track" programs have better instructors, better preceptors, and more opportunities for interesting clinical time. The "fast-track" program is affiliated with a University, and they do a nice job. Our community colleges have the least experienced instructors, and seem to have the most trouble getting people through national registry exams.
gonnabemt
06-02-2007, 11:56 PM
Anyone know of anything like that in Anchorage, Alaska?
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