Kensington Dirt

[Kamododragoon]

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I left kenisington on terms not considered the greatest. I left
Kensington at a time when I was suffering depression. It was a blow
to me and yes it was terms not considered the greatest. But I am here
to tell you the dirt on Kensington Fire dept.

During the early part of January, they had their first house fire of
the year. It was this first house fire that i saw something that blew
my mind. This fire Chief, who i will call Chief MDL, sent 3 probies
into a burning house fire who at the time were not certified as
Firefighter 1's and EMT's at the time and were on the hoseline
advancing in a buring house fire. They were seen even packed up on
the line and at the same time the members had no idea that red hats
were not to be on the line and were only allowed to do outside work.
It sorta makes you wonder what would happen and what would OSHA and
the state labor dept would say.

While i was their in Kensington, they started a live-in program
dispite the objections of other depts. Other Depts around Kensington
didn't like their live in program because it would raise the town's
ISO rating and the town's insurance would be very high. Even the
chiefs of other depts didn't like what kensington is doing.

They have even started doing duty crews because of dwindling
membership, they are this close to hiring day work and what is
scaring them the most is if the bill pending in Hartford dosn't pass,
they will soon consider hiring day workers. Their are some people who
are at Kensington, work for either New Britain Fire dept or other
fire depts and i can name those people.

Why i am sqealing now, is because I just want to air out some dirty
laundry and tell some dirt on them.

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[scotts48]

Did someone piss in your cornflakes today? Get a life. No one likes a RAT.

[KenNFD1219]

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I left kenisington on terms not considered the greatest. I left
Kensington at a time when I was suffering depression. It was a blow
to me and yes it was terms not considered the greatest. But I am here
to tell you the dirt on Kensington Fire dept.

During the early part of January, they had their first house fire of
the year. It was this first house fire that i saw something that blew
my mind. This fire Chief, who i will call Chief MDL, sent 3 probies
into a burning house fire who at the time were not certified as
Firefighter 1's and EMT's at the time and were on the hoseline
advancing in a buring house fire. They were seen even packed up on
the line and at the same time the members had no idea that red hats
were not to be on the line and were only allowed to do outside work.
It sorta makes you wonder what would happen and what would OSHA and
the state labor dept would say.

While i was their in Kensington, they started a live-in program
dispite the objections of other depts. Other Depts around Kensington
didn't like their live in program because it would raise the town's
ISO rating and the town's insurance would be very high. Even the
chiefs of other depts didn't like what kensington is doing.

They have even started doing duty crews because of dwindling
membership, they are this close to hiring day work and what is
scaring them the most is if the bill pending in Hartford dosn't pass,
they will soon consider hiring day workers. Their are some people who
are at Kensington, work for either New Britain Fire dept or other
fire depts and i can name those people.

Why i am sqealing now, is because I just want to air out some dirty
laundry and tell some dirt on them.

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Care to explain and provide a citation on how a live-in program in one town affects another towns ISO rating?

[DeputyMarshal]

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I left kenisington on terms not considered the greatest. I left
Kensington at a time when I was suffering depression. It was a blow
to me and yes it was terms not considered the greatest. But I am here
to tell you the dirt on Kensington Fire dept.

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Why i am sqealing now, is because I just want to air out some dirty
laundry and tell some dirt on them.

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Think of it this way; you worried all along about how you'd get through your "rookie year" because you just didn't fit in... (You wrote about that a lot here, remember?)

It looks like your worries were well founded. You lasted less than a year as a volunteer firefighter. To top it off, you chose to try and smear your old department on the way out. I hope you don't intend to try and join another local department because that kind of behavior doesn't go over very well.

At least you'll have the memories and we'll have your picture to remember you by, Nick. (Thanks for providing the picture, BTW.)

[jfaz81]

Rats get bats and Snitches get stitches. Someone shut this cry baby up! What were you not one of the probies on the hoseline, is that why you're crying?

And thanks to Deputy for posting the pic so we can all know who not to let join our brotherhood ever again!!!

[TurkII]

The only things I know about Kensington is the stuff that I saw when I took my Fire Service Instructor class there back in 2001 or 2002. From what I remember, it seemed like they really had their sh** in line.

1 - First, the fact that my only knowledge of this department comes from when I took an advanced class given by the Connecticut Fire Academy demonstrates their dedication to standadized training and higher education.

2 - Live in programs are becoming more popular throughout the entire country and are used as a way to reduce response time in volunteer departments. Reducing response times also shows a pro-active stance this department takes.

3 - Staffing duty crews is yet another way to reduce response times and provide a better service. Additionally, this practice allows small groups of volunteers to band together to form the best ways they work as an individual company and improves accountability on the fireground. Yet another point for Kensington.

4 - My guess is that if you compare your year of experience with that of "Chief MDL" then he would probably have a tad bit more experience in tactics and the abilities of the men and women he is sending into a fire. For the record, Connecticut is not an NFPA state. Therefore, firefighters are not required to hold a Fire I certificate in order to operate as firefighters. They are, however, required by by the OSHA laws. These include documented training sessions of eight different areas, documentation of competency, and medical evaluations.

Sorry pal - not really sure your personal vendeta against Kensington is going to go very far.

[KenNFD1219]

Since Kamododragoon did not have the guts to tell the Chief directly, I forwarded a copy of his posting to Chief "MDL".

[Kamododragoon]

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At least we know that the Connecticut Fire service is as corrupt as
the New Haven Police Dept. I'm not surprise that the FBI isn't going
after you guys. It just goes to show that most of you took lesson
from John G Rowland on how to be corrupt and start a corrput
organization. They should have cleaned house when they go rid of
rowland and anyone connected to rowland

Besides, what's a picture going to do hurt my little ass.
DeputyMarshal, u may have pictures of me, but i may have pictures of
you paying illegal immigrants working on your expenisve union paid
house or cheating at the casino.

Besides i just wanted to air my beef and if ya gotta problem, then
come say it to my freaken face instead of saying it and hiding behind
a screen like a weak, little punk.

Oh and that State bill pending in Hartford to ban paid members from
serving in volunteer depts. I have friends up in Hartford that tell
me that it's not going to happen and that the bill to ban paid ff's
from volunteering in their hometown is not going to get to the Rell's
desk for her signature. Their is talk about making the state fire
service in CT a regional fire service by combining all the towns fire
service into a regional county like service. How i know about this,
I'm very close friends with a state democratic house of rep who i
know, can make ur life a living hell if u try and mess with me.

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[fireguy121]

Boy did you screw with the wrong set of people kiddo.................why dont you go back to your crib and continue sucking your thumb because as a probie you should have learned rule number 1........................dont ever sling mud at any department based on what you think you know because the people in charge have probably been on the job long enough not to hang themselves with poor decision making.

[fireguy121]

Originaly posted by childish kamododragoon:
"Besides i just wanted to air my beef and if ya gotta problem, then
come say it to my freaken face instead of saying it and hiding behind
a screen like a weak, little punk."


...........in defence of the deputy, let us not forget who started this little online battle so we are all very clear on who is really hiding behind a screen! GROW THE F#*K UP CHILD!

[DeputyMarshal]

DeputyMarshal, u may have pictures of me, but i may have pictures of
you paying illegal immigrants working on your expenisve union paid
house or cheating at the casino.

Did those come out okay? I was afraid that the lighting was bad. Please post them so I can order 8x10s of the best ones.

Besides i just wanted to air my beef and if ya gotta problem, then
come say it to my freaken face instead of saying it and hiding behind
a screen like a weak, little punk.

Just stop in at the firehouse anytime or, if you prefer, swing by the casino. and maybe you'll catch MDL and I at the same time. That'll give you a chance to say it to his face, too -- we wouldn't want someone accusing you of "hiding behind a screen like a weak, little punk" now, would we?

Their is talk about making the state fire
service in CT a regional fire service by combining all the towns fire
service into a regional county like service.

Yes, I've heard about that, too. The bill was introduced by the Easter Bunny.

I'm very close friends with a state democratic house of rep who i
know, can make ur life a living hell if u try and mess with me.

Thanks, it's always fun to start the day with a laugh! I hope you were this amusing in Kensington...

[osfd100]

Obviously someone is upset they didn't make Firefighter of the year.

I am sorry you were suffering from depression when you left Kensington. You should take comfort in knowing that they are probably not depressed that you are gone!!!

[Adze39]

sent 3 probies
into a burning house fire who at the time were not certified as
Firefighter 1's and EMT's at the time and were on the hoseline
advancing in a buring house fire. They were seen even packed up on
the line and at the same time the members had no idea that red hats
were not to be on the line and were only allowed to do outside work.

Well, if he was sending them into a burning building I should certainly hope they were packed up!

Hmmm... is a certain "red hat" upset that he wasn't one of the 3 that were allowed to go play with the big kids on the playground?

[jfaz81]

Once again, you being slammed on this forum has nothing to do with being corrupt or anything like that, it has everything to do with a brotherhood that sticks together through thick and thin and YOU don't want to **** with. If you kept your mouth shut and stayed in the fire service longer then a couple of months you might know what I'm talking about. Know the best thing for you to do is just shut the hell up and forget about ever being a firefighter.

[KeithA8]

Where to begin???????????

I'll start by saying that I know the Kensington FD very well. I was never a member but I did live in that town for many years and can say with confidence that they, Berlin, SK, & E Berlin have their stuff together! They are with out a doubt one of the most professional volunteer depts I've seen - hands down! Are they perfect? No! No-one is! I don't know of the particular incident you speak of but I do know the chiefs over their would never put a rookie in danger.

As usual you are talking out of your back side about alot of things in your message. Connecticut will NEVER have a county fire dept! NEVER!!! Polititions can talk all they want about the thought, but it will NEVER happen!!!! The bill you speak of will also never happen! State government will never tell an employer what to allow their employee to do. As much as I agree with the bill - it will never happen. Those New Britain guys who volly in Kensington are SCABS!!! It is no secret I feel this way. They are breaking rules with the international and that's that. This coment is not a shot at volly's. Just the paid guys who volly.

Your comments about deputymarshal are very unfounded. He is a very close and personal friend of mine and let me tell you he has no skeletons in the closet. So again you are talking out of your back side. You now have no credit here. And what's with the illegal immagrent expensive union house supposed to mean????

I also do not hide behind a screen. I am very well known here. My name is Keith Albert - I work in West Hartford. Stop by and visit. I'm at station 3. They know me in Kensington too. Just ask.

The duty crew thing is a great idea! Kensington is showing some intitiative to solve a staffing problem that all volly depts are facing. I say Bravo! Kensington does not have the call volume to support a carreer staff in my opinion. I would love to see some brothers get a job but it's not fiscaly responsible. This not only increase their ISO but it creates a tighter bond among members. I don't know if you realize it or not but a better ISO rating is a good thing for the dept and the tax payer because it LOWERS insurance costs! Area depts would have NO concern what their neighbors ISO ratings are. So again you have no idea what you are talking about here.

Why did you post this in the first place? Are you bitter about something? Did you get kicked out? Why did you leave? Did they not except you for the evil person you display here? Go back to couciling. You need to talk to someone - seriously! What are freinds in the democratic house going to do to us? They are my friends too. They are huge supporters of the IAFF! Do they know you posted this? If not you should show them so we can get in BIG trouble!

In closing I just want to remind everyone that Kensington is a great fire dept. They have a great training program, good leadership, nice equipment and very competent firefighters. I have many friends there. One of them is even a scab - but I love him anyway.

[Kamododragoon]

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To All those that want to ban me from volunteering ya can go ****
yourself. It's people like you that make the fire service look bad
and it's no ****ing wonder why the fire service in Connecticut is so
desperate for people. It's you people that claim in public that your
in dire for members, but then ya flip flop here to say you don't want
this person in ur dept. What a ****ing load of hypocite's we have
here. Ya folling urself by coming here saying that u don't want this
person to volly while ur own dept is in desperate need of vollies or
members. I hope ya like the damn day when ur town starts going paid
and ur the ones that can be held responsible for the demise of your
volunteer service. Ya know, you can also claim resposeibe for
Connecticuts Brain Drain.

No one will never ****ing drive me out of the fire service because
i'm their by choice. If ya don't ****ing like it, then ya can go to
Russia. So do urself a favor, Grow urself a ****ing brain.

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[KeithA8]

Kamodogragoon:
You need to relax! I didn't read any one banning you from the fire service but with all the cursing and ranting you should look at yourself from our point of view. I would never let a trash talking idiot like you represent my dept. Just relax and take a breath and think slowly before you type. Try to have sound reason in your comments. It will take you farther than you have been so far. You make absolutly no sense in what you write.

Now try to answer some of my questions I asked earlier please. So I can further understand what you are going through. Maybe we can help you. Just calm down!

[nadeau526]

I am probably one of the youngest members on the board. That last comment you made is one of the reasons lately the fire service has been given a bad name. Some people that are in the service do not act professional, are not respectful to other firefighters or the public. Ok you may have had problems with your former department but come on this is not the place to post that. Like Keith said you need to watch what you say because god forbid a department you are trying to get on looks at this they might turn you away just because they don’t want trouble. I have had issues with a former employer but I never went onto a public forum and bad mouthed them because I was upset. If you had a issue then you need to act professional about it and bring it to the proper people instead of a public forum.

*steps down off the soap box*

[DeputyMarshal]

You'll never learn will you, Nick?

CT is no different from any other place. The need isn't just for "volunteers"; the need is for good volunteers. You said yourself months ago that you "didn't fit in" and time has proven you correct. Firefighting isn't for everybody and all indications are that it isn't for you. You need to find some other task that you're up to doing well because it doesn't look like firefighting is it for you.

No one will never ****ing drive me out of the fire service because

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me as if you're already out of the fire service. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Whatever chance you ever had to be a successful firefighter probably started to fade months ago. Time does not seem to have helped. Your actions here on the forum will probably be enough to extinguish those chances altogether for a long time to come.

(BTW, PGP signed messages on a public forum? Can we say, paranoid? :rolleyes: )

[whflhff]

You gentlemen are far more tolerant than I am.

Normally, I would consider Kamodo a troll and enjoy watching the pile-on but some of you seem to know him which, it seems to me, turns this thread from a barely acceptable rumble into a personal attack against an FD, a forum member, the State of CT and paid FFs (I guess, he doesn’t write very clearly). We can live without this poster (well, that’s not really up to me but at least I’ll do my part and let the web team know).

Posts reported to web team (Komodo posts, that is).

Bill.

[SteveyY]

This former member, was terminated a month or two ago for a long list of reasons which if he really wants to keep bashing kensington then i will release all of them. To start, no probationary fire fighters were sent into the building, they offered fire supression from the outside of the structure while packed up and with i believe our assistant chief. Also, we dont have any members that are currently employed by other fire departments. We have a couple former firefighters but then again to this guy and his IQ, he may not be able to tell the difference. There hasnt even been real talk about hired day crews because it wasnt our idea, outside agencies made this comment and it did circulate around the firehouse but more as a joke. You didnt leave on good terms because you were terminated, when was the last time you were fired and felt good about it? Keep up the bashing because its coming around the corner to bit you in the ass.

[Kamododragoon]

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I'm not the most realxed person. I take very deep offense when
someone wants to ban me. Like DeputyMarshal, who if i find out later
that i couldn't join because of him, i ain't afraid of putting him in
the hospital myself. I'm not the person to joke likely because joke
with me, i'll snap back at you.

Okay keithAB, I had my winter blues at the time when i was feeling
down. It was made worse when Chief MDL threw me out over something I
said between me and the Capt on a AOL IM. Things got construded the
wrong way and i got thrown out because what i said on AOL IM. Now
with my reputation, where i live in Central Connecticut, I can't
volly because where i live.

nadeau526, I had my depression time and now i'm in my bitterness and
anger time. I'm just getting bitter and angry over Kensington and
Newington. I'm just letting out my anger, fustration and resentment
over what's been happening to me.

DeputyMarshal, If i ever find out that i can't volly because what you
said. You better be watching your back.

jfaz81, Why don't you take a bowl of shut the f up because i'm not
that easily driven away from something.

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