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PureAdrenalin

12-16-2006, 05:14 PM

Does anyone have information about Madison? I have been to thier website and I am now looking for personal or "I have a relative who works there" stories pertaining to MFD culture, hiring process, etc.

Thank you

It's a great department, I have a small number of friends there. The process in itself is fairly short, only a few months, but it's very extensive. MFD itself is a tough department, fairly strict. at least as I understand it. Go do a ride along if you can, I know I will be if I make it past the written. for the most part it's like any other department

clark918

12-16-2006, 09:17 PM

I'm from the Milwaukee Area, just finished my firefighter 1, and will be applying there. One word of advice that I've heard from my friends and my instructors is that you shouldn't call the Fire Chief, "Chief". She is Native American, and will get offended. Kind of weird that she gets upset over that seeing how it IS her position, but she does. She is also a lesbian. So I'm not trying to say anything bad about her or the department, but you might want to watch what you say if you get interviewed.

PureAdrenalin

12-16-2006, 10:32 PM

jasper45

12-17-2006, 12:46 AM

This is well known, don't think you needed to post her sexual orientation for the world to see..perhaps an edit would be in order?

Go easy PFD, it's valid information for someone trying to pass an interview. Maybe you should crawl back into your hole, unless of course you're going to try and correct my grammar again.

P.S.

Will you please stop being a guest so I can place your new screen name on ignore, just like your old one?

clark918

12-18-2006, 07:22 PM

I did mention that it's nothing against her, and just a tip. I know people that have had things go wrong because of that.

dsdjsmith

12-23-2006, 05:35 PM

To all MFD test takers, read the Candidate Prep guide (you can download the pdf here; http://www.madisonfire.org/recruitment/recruitment_hiring.htm), this is your best source for info for the testing process it is packed full of info for every step of the test! If you know any Madison Firefighters ask there advice, the "Chief" asks us every eligibility list to submit letters of recommendations for anyone that we know on the list. My only advice for the physical ability test, you need to have just as much endurance as you do strength, they will offer a physical ability practice session...........TAKE IT!!! Good Luck to all of you who try, remember not to give up if you don't make this time, and keep applying elsewhere, because practice makes almost perfect!!

P.S. I know that www.firehousethree.com will answer any questions by email as well! Oh yeah, the "Chief" does not care if you call her "Chief". Chief or Chief Amesqua is just fine!

firedoe29

02-05-2007, 07:59 PM

question for mr. clean, I took the written for madison wisconsin today. while looking thru the dept. web site, i noticed that ALL of the people (around 20+)hired off of the last list were previously employed by a fire department! Do you know people who have been hired who did not have any previous fire employment? If they only hire people with previous experience, they should just make it a requirement so as not to waste some peoples time!

jccrabby3084

02-06-2007, 01:08 PM

Well I guess the Madison Fire folks already beat me to this. I tested for Madison, got on Green Bay before Madison offered the job. Anyway, I know Madison looks for presonality not just fire experience...just most people applying have some type of experience.

The physical agility is challenging, but fair, also you can attend a practice session before doing the actual test. I highly recommend it. The only event you can't practice is the search tunnel. They won't say it, but I can...make sure you do a "proper" search technique....like sweeping your hand up and down the tunnel, not just keeping at the floor.

To MrClean and other MFD who posted here, just saying Hi. I went to MATC for fire science and was on Shorewood Hills while there. Anyway, we thank you guys for helping out with our LODD in August, we had MFD at the station I'm at. Also glad we could return the favor for Lt Johnson. Take care.

SPARKYMN

02-06-2007, 08:34 PM

Does anyone know how many they plan on taking from the list right away, and how many are going to be on the list.

Mack22

02-15-2007, 06:19 PM

Any news on the written test yet, like when we will get results? Also, as far as the psych questions are concerned, was it good to put strongly agree/disagree or stay away from the strongly. I answered a mix of both, but wasn't quite sure how they view those types of questions. That was the first test like that I took, so I am sure there will be a learning curve. I did answer everything truthfully, just wanted to know what others thought of it. Also, assuming that I get as far as the first round of oral boards, what kind of questions do they ask there, and is there any advice someone can give as far as how to approach it. I already have the Candidate Prep Guide, but it doesn't give a lot of information.

Another question I had is does Madison allow ride alongs, and if so, how can I go about signing up. I heard only on the rescues, but I would be willing to do that as well. I am an EMT-B so I think that should help. Thanks for the info and help.

Mack

jccrabby3084

02-15-2007, 06:38 PM

Tell you what Mack....just concentrate on the next step first. If the results are not out yet, don't concern yourself with the oral interview. You will end up working yourself up and if you get a small envolope in the mail...well better luck next time. If you get the big envelope...concentrate on the physical agility. Madison tends to look for personality, if you can fit in. So as for the psych part of the test...its a crap shoot. Doesn't really matter how you answered, so long as you were honest.

jccrabby3084

02-16-2007, 12:43 AM

Hey Mrclean...what shift are you on there? Maybe I'll have to stop in and say hi, next time I get down that way.

clark918

02-16-2007, 01:57 AM

Mack... I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure they mail the results the week of March 7 it said. I'm going just as crazy as you though. : )

jccrabby3084

02-16-2007, 11:33 AM

Clean...I'm at station 6A up here. I believe our A-shift schedule is the same as your C-shift.

As for the guys you went to school with, Chris H. He is a Lt in prevention now and is close to making Captain. Eric...He was the training Captain for about 3 years...he just came back to the floor as an Engineer. And as for Chris E...big guy?....he is an Engineer too. So you must have had Jeff Clark then as an instructor? One of the best out there.

jccrabby3084

02-20-2007, 10:12 PM

JC,

Yep, I had Jeff Clark. Great instructor. Is Jeff still teaching? Back then I did not qualify to test for GBFD, but I really liked the people on the rescues that came through the ER's. It seemed like a pretty close department. Chris E. was a bigger guy. One not to upset although he seemed like a very nice guy. How long have you been on GBFD? 3 1/2 years on MFD for me, still a rookie...

MrC.

About the same for me...3 years on so still in the learning phase for some things. Although I had quite the career year last year. Jeff is still teaching and we see him a time or two bringing people to the ER. Actually we just had two of our guys teaching ACLS and they had a 55y/o guy code at the school. Defib him and got a pulse back. He was talking when they got him to the ER. Anyway...the Chris guy you remeber, he was a fire dispatcher for awhile and then we went to a county system. He is an Engineer now getting Lt pay. Well take care and I hope to stop in sometime.

Mack22

03-02-2007, 06:45 PM

Has anyone received any information from Madison yet? I know that I may be a little anxious, but this is the department at the top of my list and I really hope that I did well. I had been studying for this test, and have been working out quite a bit for the upcoming physical, especially hitting the step mill hard. I know that it is a tough physical, but I am pretty confident I will do well. Also, been reading some firefighter interview books and practicing my public speaking to get ready for the interviews. Anybody have any help or suggestions for any step in this process? Thanks guys for any help.

Mack

clark918

03-03-2007, 01:23 AM

Mack22

03-03-2007, 03:37 AM

Thanks for the info, I will anxiously await that date. At least I am having the physical test for Omaha on Tuesday so I have something to keep me busy until then. Congrats on the POC job and good luck with it. Keep us posted when you hear anything.

Mack

MMedrow21

03-03-2007, 12:12 PM

ya i am getting a little anxious to hear the resluts. I have been a little bit busy with going through a POC job, waiting to hear from them as well. Hopefully we will find something out this upcoming week. Congrats Clark.

clark918

03-05-2007, 10:13 PM

Thanks guys.

fireman4949

03-06-2007, 01:03 AM

Mrclean,

Is Deborah Amesqua still the Chief of Madison?

I heard a rumor last week that she is no longer there...Just curious if there is any truth to it?

As you probably know, she worked here a long time ago before going to Wisconsin.

Kevin:D

fireman4949

03-06-2007, 04:37 PM

Thanks for clearing that up...That just proves the old saying; "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see.":p

I don't know about her, but I know I'm glad I don't have to deal with the cold like you guys do!:eek:

Kevin:D

jccrabby3084

03-06-2007, 05:18 PM

Yeah...Fireman4949

You don't have to put up with the cold and snow now.....but we don't have to always put up with 90 degree or higher heat and humidity.

I think I'll take a colder day with my turnouts on rather than walking around with some serious duck butter going on. :)

MMedrow21

03-06-2007, 05:33 PM

well i got my results from the written test, and i will not be going on further in the process. I will be applying next time they hire again.

jccrabby3084

03-06-2007, 06:35 PM

well i got my results from the written test, and i will not be going on further in the process. I will be applying next time they hire again.

Sorry to hear that...I got the small envelope once too...not the end of the world. I fyou check out the city website, the last group of recruits hired...I personally know one that was hired. He worked for Fitchburg, but took the test for Madison several times before getting on. It can take awhile.

clark918

03-06-2007, 08:58 PM

jccrabby3084

03-07-2007, 12:51 AM

clark918

03-07-2007, 04:40 PM

Not sure about the car, and I don't think that's his last name. His first name is Kenny. He's a little bit bigger of a guy. Really nice and easy to get along with.

jccrabby3084

03-07-2007, 06:46 PM

not him then....thanks

clark918

03-08-2007, 04:44 PM

jccrabby3084

03-08-2007, 06:18 PM

I passed the written test! Just got the results today. Anybody have any tips for the physical test?

Also, I just heard yesterday from someone that about 900 ended up going to take the test. They want to hire 400. I'm assuming that's 400 over the two years that they have the eligibility list?

Sorry about all of the weird questions. I'm just really excited about this. It's the first big department I've ever tested at and pretty much my dream department in Wisconsin.

Congratulations....

As for the physical test, take a look at what the test entails...stair stepper, ladder raise and carry, hose advance, ventilation simulator, dummy drag, overhual simulator (80# weight down once, 60# weight up 5 times, repeat for so many repetitions) . Typical type of FF activities....best suggestion....find out when there are hands on practice sessions and attend one or more.

As for hiring 400....MrClean would know, but probablly that is just for the list. If you make it that far you are put into hiring bands (A,B,C,D) so on. They will interview so many bands for a hiring.

Mack22

03-09-2007, 12:52 AM

Well, I got my results today, and unfortunately I didn't make it to the next process. I am a little stunned since I thought that I did very well on the test and I think that I would fit in well at a firehouse. That being said, I am sure that the personality profile is what hurt me, because at other departments that I have tested for, I have done very well on the tests that don't have a personality/work styles profile. I am a very hard worker, team player, and respectful person, and I thought they would be looking for someone like that. Are there certain questions that if you answer differently from what they want that they automatically dismiss you even if you answer everything else well? I am just surprised because they took the top 400 people and I thought for sure that I would have done well. I am not trying to sound arrogant, I have had firefighters before tell me that I would make to good addition to a department. Can anyone give me some advice? I would like to know if there is anyway to find out where I went wrong with this test, and if there is anything I can study to do better next time. Thanks for the help, and you can bet I will be testing again next time around. This is my number one place to work.

Mack

clark918

03-09-2007, 01:53 PM

That may have been what the guy meant then. They passed 400 people.

Also, I took a written test about 4 months ago for a smaller POC department. The personality test is about the same. However, I failed that one. Yet, I passed this. So what I mean to say is that it doesn't automatically mean that the job isn't right for you. I even talked to the Chief after I failed that first one and the more he learned about me, he said I'd fit in fine with everyone. One little test can't really decided if you should be a firefighter or not. So keep trying, and you'll get on somewhere. I too, have a long road ahead of me.

nrz2334

03-10-2007, 12:01 AM

Congrats Clark
I passed as well good luck with the next step

SPARKYMN

03-10-2007, 01:25 AM

I guess the five hour drive was worth it, I will see ya at the next step.

rusty368

03-11-2007, 06:11 PM

PAT on June 5th for me!
Is the MFD using the (A, B, C, D ) list system still? for the chief's interviews yet.

thanks

LightsAndSirens

03-18-2007, 12:15 AM

Yea man don't sweat it. One of the instructors I had for Firefighter 1 said it took him 22 tries to get on. Now he is a Lieutenant at Wauwatosa. I haven't gotten mine yet. Hopefully in the next day or two I will.Would he happen to drive an ugly green car and go by the name Cattanachi or something like that?

Haha, you're talking about Don. He's the Chief of Wauwatosa, BTW, not a Lieutenant. He's a feisty little guy, isn't he? Don helped out with my fire academy at MATC a couple of years ago. That guy's a hoot!

LightsAndSirens

03-18-2007, 12:41 AM

I forgot to mention that I got the big envelope too. Since only 3 out of the 15 people from my volunteer department passed, I'm proud just to have made it this far. On the other hand, I think that most of the people who take the physical pass. I'm sure a few candidates don't show up for the PAT, some make a mistake during the test, and others simply aren't in good enough physical condition, but my guess is that those folks are in the minority. Can anyone comment on this or give more insight than what the Candidate Preparation Guide has to offer on Madison's physical? Like, which of the 7 events is the hardest and cause the most people to fail?

jccrabby3084

03-19-2007, 04:09 PM

I forgot to mention that I got the big envelope too. Can anyone comment on this or give more insight than what the Candidate Preparation Guide has to offer on Madison's physical? Like, which of the 7 events is the hardest and cause the most people to fail?

Congrats on the big envelope...and it is Don also I was talking about from previous post.

As for the PAT...best bet is to go to the practice sessions...you can practice almost any event, except the search maze. That will give you the best idea where to practice on. From experience, I would say the toughest event is the overhaul simulator. You do that last and have to do so many repetitions in the given time. The tough part is that you wear the same gear that has been sweated up by everyone before you, and the gloves don't have the best grip at that point. I found it was a challenge to keep a good grip on the pike pole, because your hands would slip easily....so you have to be a bit ummm...creative.

clark918

03-19-2007, 05:13 PM

Can you wear your own gloves?

jccrabby3084

03-19-2007, 06:29 PM

Can you wear your own gloves?

I don't believe so....don't quote me on that, I believe you have to wear the gear provided to you. Also there are many type of gloves and if you wore ...say extrication gloves, then you would have an unfair advantage over someone who has to wear the gloves provided.

Someone from Madison should be able to answer best, but when I went through you wore the gear provided. Definately makes you want to shower after though.

clark918

03-19-2007, 07:03 PM

Haha thanks. I'm probably just going to keep lifting like normal and wait until my practice date until I pick something a bit more specific. Appreciate the info though.

PureAdrenalin

03-20-2007, 01:08 AM

Haha thanks. I'm probably just going to keep lifting like normal and wait until my practice date until I pick something a bit more specific. Appreciate the info though.

lots of cardio....that is where you will fail if you are not prepared. 30 min a day minimum.

clark918

03-20-2007, 11:42 AM

lots of cardio....that is where you will fail if you are not prepared. 30 min a day minimum.

Thanks. Are you on at Madison? If so, when you did your cardio, did you just do 30 minute jogs? Or did you some some other things that related a bit more to the test?

LightsAndSirens

03-20-2007, 09:02 PM

Any suggestions on what to wear for the PAT? The letter I got said long pants & sturdy shoes are required, but that's still somewhat vague. mrclean928 said that he wore jogging pants, so I'm guessing that sweats are perfectly acceptable, right? Other than that, I'll probably just wear a t-shirt.

Does anyone remember someone getting booted for wearing inappropriate clothing? Did anyone wear something that worked well for them or remember wishing they had wore something else after it was too late?

clark918

03-20-2007, 09:24 PM

I've never seen a step-mill anywhere. I've used one at West Allis Fire Dept. before and I agree that it would be the most important to practice since it takes a lot out of you, but I never see them at any gyms. I got a list of a bunch of gyms that I can use for free until the test, but they are all in Madison and I live near Milwaukee. I just got hired POC at South Milwaukee. I was hoping they would have one, but I just checked a few days ago and they don't.

SPARKYMN

03-21-2007, 01:42 AM

Does everyone who passes the cpat move on to the next step, or just the top %. ANYONE KNOW????????

jccrabby3084

03-21-2007, 02:32 AM

Madison does not use CPAT...they have their own physical agility test, quite different from CPAT. The step mill used is the same for both tests though. Madison you are on the stepper for 5 minutes where CPAT is three......So to Clark, that is the target goal there for a stepper workout. Also a regular stair stepper can help tone your leg muscles too if you can't find a stepmill.

As for passing the physical agility, you are ranked and will go on to an interview. I believe you can fail some events of the PAT and still get an interview. There are a couple critical fails, that if you fail that event..you're done. Best bet is to pass everything though. (obviously)

clark918

03-21-2007, 05:56 PM

Yea I saw something on the site about not passing something in a certain time, but still passing it. So you wouldn't get disqualified for it, but you don't get a point. So either way, you would have to get through it.

I might actually just go to Madison a few times between now and the test for the step-mill. Taking some time out for the drive will be worth it if I get a job. I can still keep my legs in shape here, but I think balance is the biggest thing with the step-mill. It just feels really weird using it. Mrclean... is your gym in Madison?

And thanks for the advice everyone.

PureAdrenalin

03-21-2007, 06:39 PM

Thanks. Are you on at Madison? If so, when you did your cardio, did you just do 30 minute jogs? Or did you some some other things that related a bit more to the test?

No I'm not on madison, my cardio routine is done on an inclined elliptical, with variable resistance. So I'm both going forward, and up. In 30min I climb about 2700ft. It's a pretty brutal workout. No matter how you do it, a strong focus on cardio will make any test that much easier, and it's good for you. YMCA's are both inexpensive and well equipped. Lifting weights will only get you so far. It's not bad to mix the two into a good routine.

clark918

03-22-2007, 12:17 AM

Hey Clark,

The gym I work for is actually in Middleton, right next to Madison. I know there is a deal for Madison Fire Candidates but I don’t know what it is off the top of my head. I’m sure you know this but like pure adrenalin said any cardio and leg workout is good. Also like JCCrabby stated earlier we don’t actually run a certified CPAT test, it’s just similar.

Yea I've been there for a Football Coaching Convention before. I just checked my sheet and it is one of those gyms. Maybe I'll try it out sometime. I'll let you know if I come by. For now I'll just use a stair machine at my gym. Thanks again guys.

PureAdrenalin

03-22-2007, 02:57 AM

Yea I've been there for a Football Coaching Convention before. I just checked my sheet and it is one of those gyms. Maybe I'll try it out sometime. I'll let you know if I come by. For now I'll just use a stair machine at my gym. Thanks again guys.

start easy, and work into it..no need to go balls out right away. they can be a killer.

LightsAndSirens

03-23-2007, 02:11 PM

Is the oral board interview just another test, or do they ask personal questions there?

LightsAndSirens

03-29-2007, 12:15 AM

One more question about the PAT. Can you bring Gatorade, or do you have to make do with just water?

jccrabby3084

03-29-2007, 12:52 AM

LightsAndSirens

03-30-2007, 05:32 PM

As for bringing Gatorade...sure...just not during the PAT. Before each event you listen to a description of the event and can ask questions. There is water at the stations so while listening you can rehydrate...somewhat. But you don't bring your own drink with you.

As for the oral interview...get through the physical first.

Thanks for the heads up on my PAT question. As far as my oral interview question is concerned, my PAT is on June 5th, and the oral board interviews start June 9th. That doesn't leave me with much time to prepare in between for the oral interview if I pass the PAT. I believe in taking things one step at a time too, but I started working out well before City's written and passed the written all the same. I can't workout 24/7, so I might as well ask questions between workouts, right?

LightsAndSirens

04-02-2007, 12:29 AM

First, I just want to thank all of you career guys who are willing to offer advise to people like me who want to make a living doing what you guys are so lucky to have a career doing already.

All I really wanted to know about Madison's oral boards right now was if I needed have a résumé and maybe a cover letter ready to bring.

jccrabby3084

04-02-2007, 12:51 AM

Lights...

As for the oral board ??? You check in, then you sit in a room and fill out a questionaire basically what your intrests are and so on. You pick a few tasks like ventilation, forcible entry, so on. You get asked about your picks in the oral board, like why did you choose these over the other tasks. So if you think you would make a good truckie, choose those types of tasks. Does it mean anything? I have NO clue. What I heard from friends on MFD is you get placed to companies based on how you did in training. So even if you think you'll be a good truckie, you may end up on a pump. The panel is made up of members of the Police and Fire commission and some representatives of Madison Fire.

For the first interview, I don't recall personal questions. Be ready for them though. I've been in so many interviews it is hard to recall who asked what. MFD does stick out though, because it is a more unique process.

As for bringing in a resume.....there are a few schools of thought out there. For the most part, they already have a resume if you included one in your application. Also, you don't want to really break up the interview routine by handing out resumes. You are there to sell you, if you hand them a piece of paper saying the same stuff, their attention is averted from you. Try to stand out, it is easier to remember you that way.

If you have accumulated more certifications or experience that was not included in your prior resume, you can hand a resume into the person you check in with. That way it gets put in with your paperwork. For me...I always had a current resume with me for every interview just in case. I kept it basic and didn't use a cover letter. I included a resume along with copies of all my certs with the job application and would give an updated resume to the person checking the applicants in.

Finally, when the interview is done they'll ask you if you have any questions for them. I've heard different schools of thought here too. However, if you don't have a question say no thank you and thank them for the opprtunity for you to interview. I heard from members who sat on interview boards that was the most appropriate response, instead of trying to come up with a question.

LightsAndSirens

04-02-2007, 03:33 PM

Crabby, that was awesome! Very helpful, thank you:)

rusty368

04-02-2007, 11:35 PM

Crabby sounds about right on the first oral board,

MMedrow21

04-14-2007, 12:02 AM

I had a question for you already Madison Firefighters or even the guys in the process. I went for the written part but unfortuanetly did not qualify for the PAT, do they keep the ones that were at the written test on a list for the next hiring process or should i apply again when they are hiring again? Would greatly appreciate it.

LightsAndSirens

04-14-2007, 03:26 PM

Crabby sounds about right on the first oral board,
There's a second oral board :confused:

I had a question for you already Madison Firefighters or even the guys in the process. I went for the written part but unfortuanetly did not qualify for the PAT, do they keep the ones that were at the written test on a list for the next hiring process or should i apply again when they are hiring again? Would greatly appreciate it.
If you didn't pass the written this last time, you have to start the hiring process over when Madison starts taking applications again, which is supposed to be at the end of 2008 or the beginning of 2009. Madison Fire starts a new hiring process about every two years. With each two-year hiring process, there are generally two rounds of new hires.

I'm going through Madison's hiring process now, but there are a lot of very well-qualified candidates, so I keep my hopes in perspective. I'll be happy just to pass the PAT and get invited to an oral board interview.

clark918

04-14-2007, 04:15 PM

Lights... did you get that letter yet about signing up for another PAT practice session? I just got it today so I'm guessing if you didn't, you will soon depending on where you live. I still have to sign up for my first practice session, which I'm going to do on Monday. Does this mean I won't be able to sign up for a second one since I didn't register for the first yet? That's what I got out of the letter, but was a bit confused. Thanks and good luck at the PAT.

Also, I heard Chief Amesqua was recently fired. I don't want to say why because I'm not positive and I don't want to spread rumors if I'm wrong. However, I just heard this today when I was training at my department. Someone told me then my Captain said that's what he heard as well. Can anyone from Madison actually confirm this? I just hope it doesn't screw anything up with the hiring process.

clark918

05-18-2007, 07:05 PM

Three questions...

1) Does anyone know if they are definitely having the oral boards almost immediately after the pat?

2) Does anyone in Madison know how many they plan on hiring throughout this process? Also how many go through the academy at a time?

3) If I do make it to the academy, do I take EMT-B as well? I am driving up to Madison every Tues/Thurs this summer(I live in Milwaukee) to take the class. I was in it last fall, but received a 77% and they require a 78%. Kind of sucks because Madison requires a 76%. haha O well, more practice never hurt anyone.

Well good luck to everyone else testing. I'm going for my practice pat tomarrow.

LightsAndSirens

05-18-2007, 08:02 PM

1) Does anyone know if they are definitely having the oral boards almost immediately after the pat?

Sorry, I was mistaken when I said that the oral boards are immediately after the PAT. I said the orals start June 9, when it's actually July 9 - my bad.

Please tell us how the practice session goes for you. Mine is on Sunday, so I'll report back too.

clark918

05-19-2007, 01:06 AM

Sorry, I was mistaken when I said that the oral boards are immediately after the PAT. I said the orals start June 9, when it's actually July 9 - my bad.

Please tell us how the practice session goes for you. Mine is on Sunday, so I'll report back too.

Great, thanks. Yea I'll let ya know what I think of it.

clark918

05-19-2007, 06:51 PM

Just got home from the practice session. SOOO glad I went. Boosted my confidence a bit since I made it through everything under the time limits. However, they didn't give us the jacket or SCBA. This PAT seems a lot more focused on strength than endurance like the CPAT.

The tunnels that you use for the hose pull and dummy drag get annoying. It adds a lot more to it. I smacked my helmet on the top quite a few times.

The ladder part can be a challenge for somebody short. A few people really struggled with this from what I saw. One girl took a bit of time to take the ladder off the rack. However, when she moved it around she was c ontrolling it very well. She had the strength, but it was so high. I had trouble as well since I'm only 5'7". The bottom of the ladder was about as high as me. Only adds a few extra seconds of work though.

Then the pike pole station might cause problems. They require 16 reps to pass and 20 for a point. You have 4 one-minute sets with 30 second breaks. This means you need about 5 reps per minute. One rep is one push and 5 pulls. I couldn't hold on to the pole at first during the pulls, but switched gloves and the station became a lot easier.

So that's my opinion on it all. Good luck to everyone else.

LightsAndSirens

05-20-2007, 12:16 AM

Cool, thanks for the info. I'll be reporting back tomorrow. It's interesting that you said the PAT focused more on strength than endurance, because everyone I've talked to seems to say the contrary, but I'm glad you gave your opinion.

I'll try not to smack my helmet too much :D

clark918

05-20-2007, 12:56 AM

Haha, I mean it's still going to take a lot of endurance, but there's more strength things than the regular CPAT.

LightsAndSirens

05-20-2007, 01:59 PM

Wow, my forearms are toast! I didn't realize how important grip really is. I agree with you, clark, that the pike pole event is going to be a killer. Also, that 20 foot step ladder was heavier than I expected it to be. I was able to get it off the wall OK once I realized how heavy it was. I'm glad that I'm doing this all again on Thursday because I could use a little more practice. Next time I'm bringing a watch so I can time myself. Everything seemed very doable, but the pike pole event does still concerns me. Since it's at the end, I hope the other events don't take too much out of me before I get there.

I have to say that I feel really good about doing the practice. It was a little more a free-for-all than I thought it was going to be, but I was fine.

Good luck clark & other candidates!

clark918

05-21-2007, 01:45 AM

The thing to remember with the pike pole, that my group didn't pick up right away, is that we were concentrating on doing 5 reps per minute set. might be better to try and get 8 reps or so the first set. That leaves less to do during the others. We were all thinking it had to be 5/minute for some reason.

LightsAndSirens

05-27-2007, 12:40 AM

I forgot to mention that I did end up smacking my helmet quite a bit too, but only in the dummy drag tunnel and not the one I pulled the hose through - definitely annoying, though. Those two events don't seem very hard to me, but they will wear you out before getting to the grand finale.

Also, I'm going to have to agree with you, clark, and say that strength definitely is going to play a big role in this test. Some people could barely get their hits to register on the sledge hammer event. I'm sure there's some technique involved in that event, but most of it is just brute force. Height helps with the ladder event, but without good shoulder strength, people of any height would struggle with that one.

We'll see how it goes, but I think you & I will do fine, clark ;)

jccrabby3084

05-27-2007, 01:49 AM

FYI.. Clark and Lights

Good luck on the PAT. Lights you are right that the roof simulator is more brute strength. I saw the person practice before hardly able to register any, but I had no problem. Just hit square on.

The one station that really tries you is the last one. The problem is that when you get there your gloves are pretty slick, so it is hard to get a good grip. I found myself clamping the down pike pole between my knees to get the reps in. The first couple are OK, but it is easy to lose count so you want to keep going as much as possible. Also, if you can, at some point either in the search maze or dummy drag, try to spit onto your gloves. The moisture may make them grip better for the roof simulator. I tried, but didn't have much spit in me, but worth a shot.

Again best of luck.

clark918

05-27-2007, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the advice JC. I had that problem with the gloves as well when I was practicing. Then I switched to a new pair and it was ten times easier.

jccrabby3084

05-29-2007, 12:00 AM

Thanks for the advice JC. I had that problem with the gloves as well when I was practicing. Then I switched to a new pair and it was ten times easier.

Yep, only problem is that you can't switch gear out in the middle of the test. Also sucks if you go later in the day and have to put on sweaty gear. Just try to find a good pair of gloves, not ones that look too worn down. Either way good luck.

LightsAndSirens

06-05-2007, 12:34 AM

So, what color suit should I wear to the oral board? :D (You don't have to answer that. It was just my way of telling you guys the good news.)

clark918

06-06-2007, 11:20 AM

How many points did you get lights? I messed up pretty bad. I passed the test, but made some VERY stupid mistakes. I got a 4.

I screwed up on the ladder when putting it back on the rack. I put it up and kind of turned around and noticed him still looking at me. Then I realized the lines weren't lined up. So I had to take it off then put it back on and I missed the extra point time by about 3 seconds.

Then in the search I got to the little ledge you climb over and got turned around. I was using my right hand to guide me along the wall, b ut kept it low on the wall. So I just kept going by it. Then I realized something has to be wrong and went back and found the ledge I had to go over. So I missed that by about 3 seconds as well.

Then the pike pole one was the one I really failed without a stupid mistake. I only got 17 or 18 reps.

Either way I passed. Hopefully I still get through. My friend said he was talking to a lady from MFD yesterday and she said a good half of the people didn't even make it through the course. They all got disqualified for not making at least the minimum times. Another lady told me I should be fine with 4 points because I did still pass the test.

Does anyone here from MFD know if 4 points can usually get a person by? How many do they usually interview? Also does anyone know if they look at the actual times? So if I missed the extra point time by 3 seconds, it would help since I'm still far above the minimum time. Thanks in advance for any replies.

LightsAndSirens

06-06-2007, 03:17 PM

:eek: Man, I'm really sorry to hear that, clark! If enough people were disqualified, Madison may still invite you to an oral board interview. Some people really won't like me saying this, but it's probably true whether they like it or not. The only way I think you'll have a chance of getting hired with a score of 4 is if you're either a female or a minority. I, of course, still wish the best for you, but I'm just being honest. I volunteer with a white male who made it to an oral board with Madison the last time around with a score of 6, but he never made it to the chief's interview. I've never heard of any white males getting further than the PAT with a score lower than that.

I really worked my ass off at the gym for the last 4 months, went to 2 practice sessions, and asked people a lot of questions about the PAT, so I was fortunate enough to get 7 points.

Good luck, clark. I hope they give you a chance because you seem like a good person. :o

clark918

06-06-2007, 03:45 PM

Thanks and congrats to you. The party that makes me mad is that I EASILY could have gotten at least 6 points. They were just two stupid mistakes. Not really anything that proved that I was out of shape. Hopefully they look at the actual times and see that I was only off by a few seconds. I'm praying that I get brought back for the oral. Maybe a good interview could put me back into the running for things.

jccrabby3084

06-07-2007, 12:14 AM

Congrats Lights...hope everything works out for you
Congrats on passing Clark...good luck to you too.

As for the lower points thing, I couldn't tell you. I know that since you passed, you'll probablly get a first interview. That is with some members of MFD and the police and fire commission. You go to a room first and pick out some intrests etc as it relates to the fire service and you get asked why you picked this or that. Say if you think you would make a good truckie, pick things like forcible entry, ventilation, search and rescue, etc. Just be ready to say why you picked them.

As for the search maze....I hate to say I told ya so, but back in the early posts of this thread, I did mention to do a "proper" search. That means sweeping your search hand up and down the wall. Had you done that, you would have found the second tunnel right away. Thing is, many do a R or L hand search and just crawl....had you been in a real search and just crawled, there is a lot you may miss. Chalk it up to lesson learned.

Again good luck to both. After the first interview and you pass that, you'll get placed into a hiring band. Usually A thru K (or whatever they pick). Then you get called for a Chief interview depending how you place. Just because you are in H band does not mean you scored lower or have little chance of getting hired, usually a couple classes are hired from the same list. So say the city hires in spring....they may interview A thru F bands only and hire who they want. Come fall and they hire again they may interview G thru K bands and hire as they please.....so if you didn't get hired off the C band...you are kinda S.O.L. So it does vary...you have as good of chance getting hired from the J band as you would the A band.

Confusing...yes, but good luck.

clark918

06-07-2007, 12:34 AM

Thanks JC. I appreciate all of the help and tips that you've mentioned.

Yea for that search I really should have swept my hand a bit more. At times I was barely touching the wall because I was concentrating on getting through quickly. It's much longer than a normal CPAT search tunnel so I forgot the required time and kept thinking I was taking to long or got lost early on.

It's nice to hear from you that I will be able to get at least the first interview. Hopefully I can blow em away with that to boost myself up. Would you recommend buying one of those books or videos before the oral board? It's my first big city dept, so it's all new to me. Also, should I bring anything with?(certs, diploma, resume, etc)

Thanks

LightsAndSirens

06-07-2007, 01:44 AM

Thanks, crabby. You've been extremely helpful. It doesn't surprise me that you're a career firefighter, because you obviously have a lot to offer.

We're supposed to get notices regarding our status in the process mailed to us the week of June 18, so I'll stay in touch. *bites nails*

LightsAndSirens

06-07-2007, 10:26 PM

I spoke with friend of mine who went through the fire academy and EMT - Basic class with me at MATC about who gets invited to oral board interviews. He was hired on Madison Fire almost two years ago. He told me that as long as you pass the the PAT, you're pretty much guaranteed a spot at the oral boards no matter what you scored, so I guess I was wrong about that. As you probably already know, the candidates who get invited to the chief's interview are the ones who have the highest cumulative scores from the written, PAT, and oral board, so good written and oral board scores could conceivably make up for a slightly lower PAT score.

Sorry for being so pessimistic earlier, but I'm always thinking worst case scenario. I'm quite hard on myself too.

Well, I guess it will be a couple of weeks before we hear anything, so I'll talk to you then.

clark918

06-08-2007, 02:51 AM

Thanks for confirming that Lights. Hopefully we both blow them away at the oral board. Let me get this straight though. If we get a high cumulative score and make it to the Chief's interview, we are put on one of those bands before the actual chief interview? So we can finish with everything perfect, but not get called in to the Cheif's interview for another year? We just get a spot guarenteed for that interview at some point by getting put on one of those bands? Sorry if that was a bit confusing, but just want to make sure I'm getting this. Thanks.

clark918

06-12-2007, 08:59 PM

I just started my EMT class in Madison. I was talking to a guy in there who also passed the PAT. He told me that an MFD firefighter told him that day that only about 10-15 people passed. He said he was watching from his car right before and saw 6 straight people fail. He said like 3 got pulled out of the search maze, 1 was taken off on a wheelchair from the dummy drag, and another collapsed on the sledge hammer incline. So it's looking good for us. This PAT really seems to be doing people in. One of the MFD firefighters said that when she took it, it was so hot out that they had an ambulance circling the training grounds the whole time. Well hopefully just another week or so till the letters come.

LightsAndSirens

06-13-2007, 12:47 AM

Yeah, I felt pretty lucky that the temperature was only in the 70's when I was testing, because I've also heard that it's been really hot in years past. That's probably why I didn't see anyone have any medical problems while I was there.

We'll probably get letters next week on Wednesday or Thursday.

Good luck this time around with your EMT class. I had Terry Thompson when I took it. Who's your instructor?

clark918

06-13-2007, 09:56 AM

I have Terry as well. She seems great. The way they run class is a lot better than MATC in Milwaukee. I'd bet money that I would have passed taking it in Madison right away. They run class a lot better. The teacher actually seems like she wants you to pass. The one at Milwaukee came to one full class. And on top of that, my grade(77%) from last semester IS passing in both MATC Madison and WCTC. Only harder thing here is that the class is accelerated so it's completed in 8 weeks. They also seem to prep you for the National Registry a bit more. They have two full classes(16 hours) directed towards that. MATC Milwaukee had one 4 hour class, maybe 2. So I'm sure I'll be fine.

It also helps I have a Paramedic at my table. haha His certification and experience is higher than the teacher's. He just moved here from Ireland I think. He said he's worked in Ireland, London, and Iraq. He's coming to UW for some medical degree or something so he has to get certified in everything over here in America. He already took the National Registry because UW wanted to see how he would do. He passed easily, but it doesn't count since he didn't have the class hours. It's funny because some of those questions were difficult BECAUSE of his experience. He said one question he was looking at and was like, "They're all wrong." Since the Medic would have actually done something where the EMT-B had to do something smaller because of their cert. So he has to kind of dumb things down for himself. He also said that in Europe the Paramedic's did a lot more than they can here. They actually prep patients for surgery. Just thought it was interesting having a paramedic at my table. haha

LightsAndSirens

06-20-2007, 10:13 PM

I got the letter today. My oral board is July 10 @ 2:50 PM. When's yours, clark?

Quickwrench34

06-21-2007, 06:01 PM

I recieved my letter today. July 11 is the day! Just wondering.... How many reps did you guys/girls get on the overhaul simulator?
Good luck to all candidates!!!!

clark918

06-21-2007, 08:06 PM

Didn't get mine yet. Hopefully tomorrow. I got 18 reps. How many overall points did you get Quickwrench?

LightsAndSirens

06-21-2007, 08:29 PM

I recieved my letter today. July 11 is the day! Just wondering.... How many reps did you guys/girls get on the overhaul simulator?
Good luck to all candidates!!!!

I got 27 reps, how about you?

clark918

06-21-2007, 09:29 PM

27?!?! That's probably the top of the year.

LightsAndSirens

06-21-2007, 09:39 PM

Top of the year, nah. Actually, a friend of mine got 32 reps when he applied two years ago. I don't think you can do much better than that, though.

nrz2334

06-22-2007, 12:47 AM

24 reps July 10th

joelshakmn

06-22-2007, 01:28 AM

23 reps. july 11.

does anyone know how many applicants are advancing past the FFAT?

clark918

06-22-2007, 10:23 AM

Not sure, but I heard that only about 400 took the PAT. Then I also heard there weren't too many at all to pass it. One guy told me that a woman from MFD told him that on his day only 10-12 passed. So hopefully there's only about a 100 left. Sounds bad, but being a white male wanting on at this dept, I'm going to need the least competition possible.

LightsAndSirens

06-22-2007, 02:51 PM

does anyone know how many applicants are advancing past the FFAT?

About half of the people who took the PAT passed, so that leaves around 200 hundred of us who will be going to the Oral Boards. Fifty percent of those candidates will be invited to a Chief's Interview, which will be approximately 100.

clark918

06-22-2007, 03:43 PM

This day lasted forever waiting for the mail. Then the mail comes and I have nothing. So hopefully tomorrow.

LightsAndSirens

06-22-2007, 07:08 PM

That's rather strange. All the letters are supposed to go out "the week of June 18," and tomorrow is the last day of the week. If you don't get a letter by tomorrow, I don't think it would be out of line for you to make a phone call Monday morning asking what's going on. Hopefully, you won't be put in that position.

clark918

06-22-2007, 08:27 PM

Yea I'm definitely doing that if I don't get it by tomorrow. Because even if for some reason I wasn't moving on, I should have gotten one anyway. I almost called today, but I'm going to give it another day.

PortageFire53

06-22-2007, 10:10 PM

nrz2334

06-23-2007, 01:01 AM

I thought you had to get at least 20 reps on the overhaoul sim to move on maybe I am wrong

LightsAndSirens

06-23-2007, 01:43 AM

I thought you had to get at least 20 reps on the overhaoul sim to move on maybe I am wrong

You needed 16 reps to pass and 20 to get a point. All of the events were set up with a passing standard and a higher standard in order to receive a point.

PortageFire, I must say that 34 reps on the overhaul simulator is quite impressive. I take it from your user name that you obviously either work or volunteer in Portage. Have you ever applied to Madison before? If so, what was your experience like the last time around?

PortageFire53

06-23-2007, 07:50 AM

clark918

06-23-2007, 01:00 PM

Any tips? We already got some on here earlier, but anything else would be nice as well.

LightsAndSirens

06-23-2007, 06:59 PM

APiernot

06-23-2007, 07:59 PM

I have been reading the board for the last couple weeks, and didn't feel like posting until now. Reasoning behind this: I wanted to make sure that I was going on in the process in Madison.

Luckily for me I did pass the written and PAT with 7 points (27 reps on the overhaul sim).

CONGRATS to everyone else who is going on in the process. Maybe I will be seeing some of you guys/ladies on my interview day (July 9 @ 2:20)

So like the others here who are going on in the process is there anything abnormal about this oral interview aside from the survey questions and answers? I have an uncle who was on in Madison but he has been retired for a good number of years now, and doesn't have too much info on this part of the process.

Does the interview really only take 15min. seeing as how it encompasses some questions from the survey and probably a scenario question to see how you would react on the job? Also if each candidate is given 15min then I would assume that there are only 32 interview times per day = approx. 160 candidates for the week (8 hours for five days). Is there only one panel of raters or are there multiple panels? Any info for us candidates will be greatly appreciated.

jccrabby3084

06-24-2007, 09:26 PM

Thanks JC for the helpful hints on Madison. Sounds like quite a few people did pretty good on the physical agility test so good job to all! I was pretty happy with my results with 7 out of 7 points and finished up the test with 34 reps on the pike pool station. I have my first interview on July 12th! Best of luck to everyone that is interviewing! On a side note jccrabby did you graduate from the MATC in 2002? Just going off of your user name I think I might know who you are.

Yep, graduated in 2002. If you graduated then also I would guess I know who you are too. Still with Portage then huh? Still the fire inspector there?
I heard of a few from the class that got picked up with career depts.

Take care and I'll pop back in here later.

John

fireusafpro

06-25-2007, 01:21 AM

This is well known, don't think you needed to post her sexual orientation for the world to see..perhaps an edit would be in order?

Eh...a lesbian..Great she would always have a chip on here non deserving shoulder...

LightsAndSirens

06-25-2007, 02:12 AM

Eh...a lesbian..Great she would always have a chip on here non deserving shoulder...

Please don't give this person the satisfaction of responding, unless you want to make his day. He's just trying to get a rise out of the readers here.

PortageFire53

06-25-2007, 11:19 AM

How long have you been on the Portage Fire Department? What kind of apparatus do you have up there - tanker, ladder, rescue, etc.?

I've been on Portage for alittle over 7 years now as a paid on call firefighter.

Apparatus that we have include:
3- Engines (city, rural, backup)
1- 100' aerial
1- Heavy Rescue (Level B Hazmat for Columbia County)
1- Rescue (extrication equip, water rescue, etc.)
2- Tankers
1- Grass Truck
1- Brush Rig (6x6 Polaris)
1- Hovercraft
1- Boat
1- Hazmat Trailer
1- 3/4 ton Truck (Inspections, Fire Investigation)
1- Suburban

John send me an email pfd_53@yahoo.com It would be good to keep in touch. I haven't heard from many people from our class since graduation. Hope all is well!

LightsAndSirens

06-25-2007, 02:33 PM

Apparatus that we have include:
3- Engines (city, rural, backup)
1- 100' aerial
1- Heavy Rescue (Level B Hazmat for Columbia County)
1- Rescue (extrication equip, water rescue, etc.)
2- Tankers
1- Grass Truck
1- Brush Rig (6x6 Polaris)
1- Hovercraft
1- Boat
1- Hazmat Trailer
1- 3/4 ton Truck (Inspections, Fire Investigation)
1- Suburban

Wow, that's quite the fleet! It looks like your department has a lot of "toys" to play with.;)

Do you have the opportunity to run EMS up there as well?

BTW, did you guys go to school with Kris Loy or Jason Roberts?

PortageFire53

06-25-2007, 03:10 PM

EMS is ran through the hospital so it is seperate from the fire department. There are a couple guys on the fire dept. that work EMS as well so there is opportunity to get into the EMS field part time or full time through the hospital.

I do remember going to school with Kris Loy. I believe he is the assist chief for Maple Bluff. I don't remember having classes with a Jason Roberts.

PureAdrenalin

06-25-2007, 03:32 PM

Please don't give this person the satisfaction of responding, unless you want to make his day. He's just trying to get a rise out of the readers here.

Lol....yeeeahhhhh.....riiiight .

jccrabby3084

06-25-2007, 06:23 PM

I do remember going to school with Kris Loy. I believe he is the assist chief for Maple Bluff. I don't remember having classes with a Jason Roberts.

Got the email address.

Kris Loy was in the same class as us and is an Asst. Chief with Maple Bluff Fire. Don't recall a Jason Roberts at all. May have been another class.

LightsAndSirens

06-25-2007, 10:22 PM

If your name is Randy, PortageFire, then Kris remembers you too. He said that Jason Roberts graduated shortly before you guys. I told him you did really well on the PAT. That didn't surprise him because he said, and I quote, "Well, he's your hight and built like a brick $hithouse".

PortageFire53

06-26-2007, 01:19 PM

Yes my name is Randy. I was going to say I didn't remember the name Jason Roberts at all. I probably would recognize him if I saw him though. I'm sure I probably had a class or two with him before he graduated. Kris has always been a great guy. Thats funny that he said that about me. :)

LightsAndSirens

06-26-2007, 10:54 PM

clark918

06-27-2007, 08:49 AM

Still no letter yet. I'm waiting until the mail comes today. A guy in my EMT class who actually lives in Madison didn't even get his until yesterday. He got into the interview and everything so I figure it's no big deal.

LightsAndSirens

06-28-2007, 02:07 AM

I did apply one other time about 4 years ago and made it all the way to the Chief interview and then never heard anything after that besides that I was placed on a waiting list. When I went through the hiring process with Madison before I really didn't know what to expect and probably should have practiced interviewing more than I did. After all the interview is the time for you to really stand out from the rest of the candidates. I'm hoping this time will turn out better since I have alittle more experience with the process.

It sounds like you've been working hard for a long time. Even though we've never met, I honestly get the feeling that you'll be one of the lucky ones this time around. I mean, you obviously have it physically. It sounds like you have some really good credentials. Now, you just need to do well at the interview/s. Of course, there's never a guarantee (especially with Madison), but you've probably got a better shot than most of us. Since there are only a handful of us reading here, what do you remember from the Oral Board that you think we should probably be ready for?

clark918

06-28-2007, 07:03 PM

LightsAndSirens

06-29-2007, 12:36 AM

Still no letter! I called yesterday and talked to some lady that said they would call today. I was in my EMT class but they left a message with my mom. I guess the lady told her that it should be here by tomorrow since they sent them out last week. However, it shouldn't take more than a couple of days to get here. I mean I only live about 80 miles away.

Geez, I would think that even someone living in Hawaii would have gotten a letter by now. There's no way it should have taken this long. Somewhere along the lines a mistake must have been made. Don't worry, though, your waiting won't be in vain

clark918

06-29-2007, 06:03 PM

Well I'm not moving on to the interview. I guess passing wasn't good enough. Those few mental errors ended up hurting me a lot more than I thought they would. Kind of sucks since I didn't fail those stations because I wasn't in good shape, but I guess I just have to learn from it. Good luck to the rest of you.

LightsAndSirens

06-29-2007, 08:19 PM

*sigh* I'm sorry to hear that, Clark. If you don't get a full-time position somewhere else first, I know you'll be applying again next time around and you'll just be that much more prepared. Mad Fire is a tough nut to crack, so it's very possible that I'll be in the same boat with ya. It sounds as though you're on the right track by doing some really good things for now.

clark918

06-29-2007, 08:36 PM

Thanks Lights. You seem like a good person and I hope you make it through it all. Yea, I'll definitely be applying again. One guy I know said his friend took 8 tries to get on at Madison. One of my FF1 teachers, now a captain, said it took him 19 tries to get on full-time. This was the first full-time dept I applied at so I'm just trying to shake it off. I'm testing with St Louis and Kenosha as well so hopefully those go better. Well good luck with the oral board.

jccrabby3084

07-01-2007, 01:24 AM

Sucks to hear that Clark. It is not the end of the world though. The first time I applied for Madtown, I didn't make it past the written test. The second time, I turned down the job, because I was already on elsewhere. Then again, I tested all over, name a place in WI and I probablly tested there, even went to NYC and Richmond, VA, as well as several places within IL, IN, MI and WI. Took awhile, but before I got on where I am now, I had 3 job offers before taking this one, then 2 others after I took this one, including Madison. Just want to say, as hard as it is to get the F.U. letter, it is almost harder to turn down a dream in hopes of getting the job you really want.

Anyways, best of luck to you in the future. Chalk this up as lesson learned. Keep working on quals and stay active with your P.O.C. dept. Things will work out. Keep an open mind and don't set yourself for one dept only. Every dept has good and bad points. Who knows, maybe GB will do another hiring this year. I think they may do another test very soon though....lot of retirements coming up.

Good luck to you.

clark918

07-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Thanks jccrabby. You've given a lot of good advice to everyone on here. I am testing for St Louis and Kenosha so hopefully those work out. I also just found out that my hometown of Oak Creek(in Milwaukee County) is hiring this Fall. However, I don't want to get my hopes up for that. From what I hear, they only want paramedics. They won't require it, but they will probably have enough to choose from. Thanks again though.

PortageFire53

07-01-2007, 01:44 PM

jccrabby shoot me an email I gotta ask you something.

jccrabby3084

07-02-2007, 12:35 AM

Portage...check your email.

However, if you were inquiring if I thought you were built like a brick $hithouse also?....umm NO. I always thought you were more like a porta pottie tipped over. :)

anyway check the email

APiernot

07-02-2007, 08:19 PM

JC, I thought I heard that you were on in Green Bay. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are do you know a guy named Don Rozz?

jccrabby3084

07-02-2007, 11:23 PM

JC, I thought I heard that you were on in Green Bay. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are do you know a guy named Don Rozz?

Yep...Rozz is a good guy, worked with him several times. Very knowledgeable.

FFKomo

07-06-2007, 06:10 PM

Anybody have their interview yet? I have mine next week thurs, the 12th.

LightsAndSirens

07-06-2007, 08:19 PM

Anybody have their interview yet? I have mine next week thurs, the 12th.

The interviews don't start until Monday, July 9. Mine is Tuesday, so I'll report back sometime after that.

Where are you from, FFKomo?

PortageFire53

07-07-2007, 12:47 PM

Anyone know how they determine when you have your interview? Is it random or is it based on your scoring so far?

APiernot

07-07-2007, 01:08 PM

Anyone know how they determine when you have your interview? Is it random or is it based on your scoring so far?

I would assume that it is a random selection process, but you know what happens when you assume.

My understanding and explaination of the process in Madison is that they take all scores, Written+PAT+1st Oral = Total Score...from there they pare down into the hiring bands. So from what it sounds like you could have the highest score on the written, and the PAT, but still have an interview scheduled for Friday.

Then again, what do I know...

FFKomo

07-07-2007, 01:11 PM

Im from the Milwaukee area, let us know how the interviews go...

LightsAndSirens

07-07-2007, 07:41 PM

Im from the Milwaukee area, let us know how the interviews go...

Yeah, will do. I have a couple of friends on South Milwaukee Fire. Do you work or volunteer fire and/or EMS anywhere?

LightsAndSirens

07-07-2007, 08:10 PM

Anyone know how they determine when you have your interview? Is it random or is it based on your scoring so far?

You know, it's pretty safe to assume that all the candidates who are interviewing on July 12 are ranked at the top, and those interviewing on the 10th are at the very bottom of the rankings.;) Actually, I thought they might organize the Oral Interviews and PAT's alphabetically based on your last name like with the written, but I'm totally just guessing on that.

FFKomo

07-07-2007, 09:21 PM

I work part time at New Berlin, and a POC at Big Bend Vernon.....I know a few guys on SMFD also...

APiernot

07-08-2007, 10:47 AM

You know, it's pretty safe to assume that all the candidates who are interviewing on July 12 are ranked at the top, and those interviewing on the 10th are at the very bottom of the rankings.;) Actually, I thought they might organize the Oral Interviews and PAT's alphabetically based on your last name like with the written, but I'm totally just guessing on that.

Lights, I don't think they are doing it alphabetically otherwise I wouldn't have been given and interview on Monday. My last name begins with a "P", so random is probably the way it is going. I couldn't see a department doing interviews based an accumulated score at this point. Then again, you never really know unless you are on the inside of the process; all we can do is speculate.

Of course speculation can be fun, but on the flip side it can also drive you nuts!

Good luck to you on Tuesday, and to those who are also interviewing.

LightsAndSirens

07-08-2007, 12:21 PM

Lights, I don't think they are doing it alphabetically otherwise I wouldn't have been given and interview on Monday. My last name begins with a "P", so random is probably the way it is going. I couldn't see a department doing interviews based an accumulated score at this point. Then again, you never really know unless you are on the inside of the process; all we can do is speculate.

Of course speculation can be fun, but on the flip side it can also drive you nuts!

Good luck to you on Tuesday, and to those who are also interviewing.

Thanks APiernot. Good luck to you as well on Monday.

In the first part of what I wrote, I was only poking fun at PortageFire. I threw an idea out there in the second part, but I'm not worried about it. Candidates will find out how they're ranked if they make it to the Chief's Interview. We're not supposed to know before that, so there's really no sense in speculating. I'm just proud to have made it this far. That in itself is quite an accomplishment for me.

APiernot

07-08-2007, 01:57 PM

I echo your sentiments of accomplishment.

PortageFire53

07-09-2007, 02:11 PM

LightsAndSirens

07-10-2007, 06:24 PM

My brain is mush. That was extremely nerve-racking. I have no idea how I did. *sigh*

APiernot

07-10-2007, 10:23 PM

My brain is mush. That was extremely nerve-racking. I have no idea how I did. *sigh*

Lights,

I am sure that you did fine, but I know what you mean about nerve-racking. I know I looked like a deer in headlights when sitting in front of the panel. Hopefully we will both get some good news in a few weeks.

PortageFire53

07-11-2007, 12:32 AM

How long did the interview last?

LightsAndSirens

07-11-2007, 06:39 AM

Lights,

I am sure that you did fine, but I know what you mean about nerve-racking. I know I looked like a deer in headlights when sitting in front of the panel. Hopefully we will both get some good news in a few weeks.

Yeah, hopefully, but I'm not too sure that I will. I was hoping to walk out of there feeling like I nailed it, but I didn't feel that way at all. You probably did fine, but I get the feeling that I sort of bombed. I guess we'll find out for sure in a couple of weeks, but I'm preparing myself for the worst. Not everyone passes.

Honestly, how did you feel afterwards? I felt kind of sick about it, still do actually. This is going to be a long few weeks.

jccrabby3084

07-11-2007, 11:41 AM

Hell of a thing about interviews, isn't it. Sometimes though even if you feel like you smoked it or bombed, it is truly hard to tell until you hear back from the dept. I've had interviews where I walked out thinking I absolutely nailed the interview, only to get a FU letter, or the name placed on a list, but there is a hiring freeze or they are only hiring so many and your SOL. Then there have been interviews where I would kick myself and think "why did I answer that way etc" then later on get a letter saying your moving on etc.

Best thing is to learn from the questions and even find out how others responded, many similar type of questions are used in many interviews. Doesn't mean your answer you gave is correct nor what someone else said is correct, but you are ready for the question.

IE...the situational question of "Your officer tells you to do something you feel is unsafe....what do you do?" Couple schools of thought and it is viewed different dept to dept.

1. If you say you will follow the order, because the job does have unsafe situations, it can be viewed that you don't have respect for safety etc. or unable to tell the difference.

2. If you said you'll side on the side of safety, then it can be viewed as having no respect for authority and so on.

(typically go with the officer's order, you don't get in trouble following orders plus they have more experience. However, it helps to say you will point out the safety concern to the officer and still do the task, kind of covered both ways)

clark918

07-11-2007, 01:37 PM

Yeah, will do. I have a couple of friends on South Milwaukee Fire. Do you work or volunteer fire and/or EMS anywhere?

Who do you know from South Milwaukee FD? That's where I work.

LightsAndSirens

07-11-2007, 01:45 PM

Who do you know from South Milwaukee FD? That's where I work.

Brian Bieganski & Joseph (Joey) Recsh

Brian passed the written, but wasn't able to get off from work to take the physical. He made it to the final interview last time. He really knows his stuff.

Joey took the written, but didn't pass.

APiernot

07-11-2007, 05:51 PM

Honestly, how did you feel afterwards? I felt kind of sick about it, still do actually. This is going to be a long few weeks.

I actually felt pretty good walking out. I felt better on my drive back to MKE as I thought about the questions and the answers that I gave. There were some points where I stumbled but feel pretty confident about it overall.

I do agree with JC about the overall aspect of it, you never really know until you get the letter. I am trying not to think about it right now, and prepare for the Kenosha written this Saturday. Hopefully if Madison is a no go for me then I will get another shot in Kenosha.

Clark918 you are going to the Kenosha written, right?

LightsAndSirens

07-12-2007, 01:45 AM

I actually felt pretty good walking out. I felt better on my drive back to MKE as I thought about the questions and the answers that I gave. There were some points where I stumbled but feel pretty confident about it overall.

I do agree with JC about the overall aspect of it, you never really know until you get the letter. I am trying not to think about it right now, and prepare for the Kenosha written this Saturday. Hopefully if Madison is a no go for me then I will get another shot in Kenosha.

Clark918 you are going to the Kenosha written, right?

I think you have the right spirit, man. I like that.

I thought I might be cut out for the job, but maybe I'm not. I tried not to get my hopes up too high; that didn't happen.

I haven't decided whether to open the letter myself when it comes, or to let my girlfriend open it for me. I want to believe that it may have good news, but I have this feeling of impending doom.

Well, it was fun chatting with you guys while going through this process. This is a very competitive field we're in, but it was still fun to talk a little bit about it. I think I'll take a break from here for awhile, though.

clark918

07-13-2007, 09:16 AM

Brian Bieganski & Joseph (Joey) Recsh

Brian passed the written, but wasn't able to get off from work to take the physical. He made it to the final interview last time. He really knows his stuff.

Joey took the written, but didn't pass.

Wow everyone knows Brian. haha Maple Bluff brought an ambo to my EMT class this summer and when one of the guys saw my SM hat, he asked if I knew Brian.

Clark918 you are going to the Kenosha written, right?

Yep. 12:30 on Saturday.

I
I thought I might be cut out for the job, but maybe I'm not. I tried not to get my hopes up too high; that didn't happen.

Don't discourage yourself if you don't get it. It definitely doesn't mean you aren't cut out for the job. Like I stated once before, one of my FF1 instructors said it took him 22 tries to get on. He is now Lieutenant at Wauwatosa Fire Dept. So if you want the job bad enough then you'll get hired somewhere. One bad interview(if it even went bad) means nothing. Good luck though. You'll get on somewhere.

APiernot

07-13-2007, 06:34 PM

http://www.ci.madison.wi.us/fire/department_news/press_releases/2007/Jul11_Budget%20Conference.pdf

With all fire departments under constant budget constraints by politicians, this news does not bode well for recruitment in Madison Fire this year. In fact it could set back the recruitment effort that we have just undertaken. Hopefully, the proposed cuts will not be implemented for the sake of Madison Citizens, and also those of us competing for a position within the Madison Fire Department.

I wish politicians would realize there is increased safety in communities due to budget increases that allow for: increased staffing, increased educational programs for citizens. Similarly, a better staffed and equipped department allows for the reduction in property loss, response time, and loss of life.

Sorry that was my one rant for the day!

PortageFire53

07-24-2007, 05:53 PM

Anyone hear back from there interview yet or know when we might expect a letter in the mail?

APiernot

07-25-2007, 06:19 PM

Anyone hear back from there interview yet or know when we might expect a letter in the mail?

I haven’t received anything, yet. I was kind of hoping that I would have a letter in the mailbox when I got home today, but that didn't happen. I figured they would get the notice for a Chief's interview out this week, since some people do have to make arrangements to get to Madison. Maybe tomorrow there will be a letter, maybe next week?

PortageFire53

07-26-2007, 01:42 AM

Yeah I'm hoping to hear back by the end of the week if not first part of next week but we'll see what happens. I forgot to ask when I signed out from the interview when we would hear.

APiernot

07-27-2007, 07:09 PM

Yeah I'm hoping to hear back by the end of the week if not first part of next week but we'll see what happens. I forgot to ask when I signed out from the interview when we would hear.

I did ask, and they didn't give an exact date. They asked if I was planning on moving anytime in the near future. I said, "No, I was just curious because 20 days would be a long time to wait for the yes or no letter". The response was:we should have the letters out before 20 days. Next week starts day 11-15, so my guess would be that July 30-Aug. 3 would be the week they send something out. Fingers and toes crossed that I get the nice letter vs. the crappy "so sorry" letter. Same for you Portage and Lights...think happy thoughts!

POWERSLADDER2

07-31-2007, 12:08 PM

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APiernot

07-31-2007, 09:56 PM

Thanks for the advice PL2. Every little bit helps, and your advice is appreciated.

I did the math and figured that about half of the initial candidates would be invited back (as you heard) at some point for a Chief's interview. By my math I figure that number to be around 75-90 candidates. Thats alot of people considering MFD is probably only hiring 10-12 for 2007, and maybe that amount for 2008. Roughly a 10-15% chance of making the cut. While it's not the best percentage, it is a higher percentage compared to other departments. The only thing to do is be positive and believe in ones own abilities to get the job.

I have kept up on my interview preparation and hopefully I (and others on this forum) will be getting Chief's invites soon.

PortageFire53

08-01-2007, 02:24 PM

LightsAndSirens

08-01-2007, 05:12 PM

Hell of a thing about interviews, isn't it. Sometimes though even if you feel like you smoked it or bombed, it is truly hard to tell until you hear back from the dept.

Whew! Those were just about the longest three weeks of my life.

APiernot

08-01-2007, 05:44 PM

Well i got my letter today. Say's I'm 1 out of 161 candidates that pasted the interview. Unfortunently I'm not in the first group of people getting interviewed so I'm guessing my chances with Madison is pretty much over. Best of luck to those who get a Chief interview!

Portage, sounds like we got the same letter in the mail today. We'll have to see if we ever get a call from Madison later down the road. I am hopeful but not exactly counting on it.

Lights, how did you do? Are you one of the lucky few to get the invite to the Chief's interview?

LightsAndSirens

08-01-2007, 06:39 PM

No, I'm in the E group. I'm not sad about it, though, because it could have been worse.

I can't believe there are 161 candidates left. Man, that's a lot!

Oh well, we probably won't have much to talk about for quite awhile. I'm sure that if one of us gets a call, we'll be apprised of it here. Tootle-loo until then.

POWERSLADDER2

08-01-2007, 09:17 PM

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jccrabby3084

08-03-2007, 02:33 PM

I agree with Powersladders here. Just because you are not on one of the first few bands does not mean all is lost. As I posted before, there could be someone on the "B" band who doesn't get hired and then someone from the "G" band does get hired. I don't really know how it all works for Madison, if only so many get a chief's interview for the first hiring, say those in the "A to E" band and only a select few get hired. Then for the next class those in the "F to K" band get interviewed.

Also just remember Madison is not the only dept looking to hire. It is a great department and a great city, no doubt about that, but keep the heads up and keep applying elsewhere. I see Appleton is doing a recruitment and Green Bay will probablly be doing one later this year. There are a number of people planning to retire this year into April or so of next year.

Quickwrench34

08-03-2007, 06:33 PM

I just got my letter today. Powersladder was right. They dont give you much time to prepare. I am scheduled for the 16th. Does anyone know how the whole band system works? Is one better than an other?
Thankyou everyone for all the great feedback.

jccrabby3084

08-03-2007, 07:56 PM

Does anyone know how the whole band system works? Is one better than an other?
Thankyou everyone for all the great feedback.

See above post from your's.
Not sure exactly, but band placement really doesn't mean anything. If on "A" band, doesn't mean you will be hired.

joelshakmn

08-06-2007, 06:33 PM

i haven't heard anything yet. i called and the hr lady said the last half of the letters were mailed on 8-2. i get more nervous as the days go on. is anybody else in the same boat i am?

LightsAndSirens

08-06-2007, 06:56 PM

i haven't heard anything yet. i called and the hr lady said the last half of the letters were mailed on 8-2. i get more nervous as the days go on. is anybody else in the same boat i am?

If you're a part of the second mailing and live quite a ways away from Madison, then that might be the only reason for your long wait. According to the letter we were sent inviting us to the Oral Boards: all of the letters regarding our final results in the process were supposed to be mailed out the week of August 1st. It was on the back of the letter, so a lot of people seemed to overlook that. For your sake, I hope you're not in the same boat that clark was unfortunate enough to get stuck in.

Where do you live, joel?

joelshakmn

08-06-2007, 10:46 PM

If you're a part of the second mailing and live quite a ways away from Madison, then that might be the only reason for your long wait. According to the letter we were sent inviting us to the Oral Boards: all of the letters regarding our final results in the process were supposed to be mailed out the week of August 1st. It was on the back of the letter, so a lot of people seemed to overlook that. For your sake, I hope you're not in the same boat that clark was unfortunate enough to get stuck in.

Where do you live, joel?

I live near Minneapolis, MN. I was aware that they were going to be mailed out the week of the 1st and also saw people post on here that they got letters. I thoughht I would have one by Saturday for sure. The HR lady told me to call back on Friday if I don't receive it this week. This waiting is killing me!!!

LightsAndSirens

08-07-2007, 12:47 AM

I live near Minneapolis, MN. I was aware that they were going to be mailed out the week of the 1st and also saw people post on here that they got letters. I thoughht I would have one by Saturday for sure. The HR lady told me to call back on Friday if I don't receive it this week. This waiting is killing me!!!

I totally hear you, man. If I was in your position, there's no doubt in my mind that I would be feeling the exact same way or maybe worse. Hell, I was starting to go nuts on Monday, Tuesday, and up until I got the letter on Wednesday. I won't patronize you by saying that you did fine and that you shouldn't worry, or that you shouldn't get your hopes up too high for just one department because there are a lot of other good departments out there, because it doesn't make me feel better when people say stuff like that. Since about 200 candidates had oral boards and 161 made the eligibility list, it's pretty unlikely that you won't be moving on. What is possible, though, is that they could still be trying to determine who they want to put in the "A" & "B" bands, because almost everyone I know who made it on to the eligibility list didn't make it to the first set of Chief's Interviews. Quickwrench is only one out of a dozen candidates who I heard made it to the first set of interviews.

Yeah, I figured you knew about the August 1st mailing week. I only mentioned it because I was surprised that other people seemed to be in the dark about it.

Hey, you didn't happen to have your Oral Board on Tuesday, July 10 @ 2:50 PM, did you? The reason I ask is because I sat next to someone from Minneapolis when waiting for the group of interviews I was in to start.

joelshakmn

08-07-2007, 06:43 PM

I totally hear you, man. If I was in your position, there's no doubt in my mind that I would be feeling the exact same way or maybe worse. Hell, I was starting to go nuts on Monday, Tuesday, and up until I got the letter on Wednesday. I won't patronize you by saying that you did fine and that you shouldn't worry, or that you shouldn't get your hopes up too high for just one department because there are a lot of other good departments out there, because it doesn't make me feel better when people say stuff like that. Since about 200 candidates had oral boards and 161 made the eligibility list, it's pretty unlikely that you won't be moving on. What is possible, though, is that they could still be trying to determine who they want to put in the "A" & "B" bands, because almost everyone I know who made it on to the eligibility list didn't make it to the first set of Chief's Interviews. Quickwrench is only one out of a dozen candidates who I heard made it to the first set of interviews.

Yeah, I figured you knew about the August 1st mailing week. I only mentioned it because I was surprised that other people seemed to be in the dark about it.

Hey, you didn't happen to have your Oral Board on Tuesday, July 10 @ 2:50 PM, did you? The reason I ask is because I sat next to someone from Minneapolis when waiting for the group of interviews I was in to start.

Nothing today, this is really killing me. Nope, that wasn't me at your interview. What about the rest of the people that follow this post. Are you going on, not going on, or haven't heard? Hope everyone has a god week. joel

SPARKYMN

08-08-2007, 12:18 AM

LightsAndSirens

08-08-2007, 01:01 AM

I live in MPLS and i recived my letter on sat the 4, but not to worry when they sent out letters for the last round I did not recive my letter for about a week after everybody else. Does anyone have any info on what the chiefs interview is like or what to expect.

Congrats Sparky! We haven't heard from you for awhile. I've never been to a Chief's Interview, so I'm pretty curious about it myself. Were you nervous at all before getting your letter, or were you not too worried about it?

If you don't mind me asking, what band are you in?

POWERSLADDER2

08-08-2007, 10:02 PM

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LightsAndSirens

08-09-2007, 01:46 AM

Thanks for the excellent advise PowersLadder. Everything you've said so far has really hit home for me. I hear people bitch all the time about MFD's hiring practices not being fair, but they make sense to me, because it's much harder to find Firefighters with the right personality type (e.g., honest, mature, intelligent, good work ethic) than it it is to find ones with fire service related credentials. They can always train new hires on how to do the job and get them the certs they need, but they can't train them to be a good fit for their department. Qualifications only help to prove that you might be the right type of person for the job, but they don't earn anyone the job like you said. Hopefully, I can put your advise to use if I get an interview sometime before the next hiring process.

joelshakmn

08-09-2007, 09:28 PM

i got the letter today. see everybody next week at the interviews.

SPARKYMN

08-09-2007, 09:58 PM

LightsAndSirens

08-09-2007, 10:32 PM

i got the letter today. see everybody next week at the interviews.

Way to go, man! What a load off, eh?

Let us know how it goes for ya. Since this is my first time applying, it would be nice to hear what the experience is like.

LightsAndSirens

08-09-2007, 10:48 PM

I was nervous about the letter, but I tried my best and thats all you can do.
It's like they say: worring is like a rockingchair it gives you something to do but doesn't get you anywhere. HA HA. I am in band D and I am going on the 16th.
Does anyone know how many people are going to be interviewed?

Well, they're doing interviews from Aug. 13-24, which is ten business days. I can't imagine there would be any more than eight people interviewed each day, but I could be wrong. If that is the case, then about 80 people would be interviewed.

Good luck!

MFDPRIDE

08-10-2007, 02:03 PM

Interviews will take place the 13th through the 17th.

joelshakmn

08-10-2007, 03:31 PM

I was nervous about the letter, but I tried my best and thats all you can do.
It's like they say: worring is like a rockingchair it gives you something to do but doesn't get you anywhere. HA HA. I am in band D and I am going on the 16th.
Does anyone know how many people are going to be interviewed?

Your from around Minneapolis, aren't you? I live in Shakopee and if our interviews are around the same time we could save on gas and carpool. What time is your interview? Mine is at 5:30pm

I'll let you guys know how it went after I get the results.

SPARKYMN

08-11-2007, 03:26 PM

Your from around Minneapolis, aren't you? I live in Shakopee and if our interviews are around the same time we could save on gas and carpool. What time is your interview? Mine is at 5:30pm

I'll let you guys know how it went after I get the results.

My interview is in the morning, then I have to get right back for school. Otherwise it would be a good idea.

LightsAndSirens

08-13-2007, 05:30 PM

Interviews will take place the 13th through the 17th.

I believe you, but this is what my Oral Board invite letter from human resources said:

"Top candidates will be invited to interview with the Chief. Those interviews are scheduled from August 13-24."

It must have been mistaken.

SPARKYMN

08-16-2007, 11:52 PM

LightsAndSirens

08-17-2007, 01:05 AM

That was the first time in my life I froze and could not speak a word, it felt like ten years went by before words started coming out again, but I think it was only for about 5 sec.
Well the worst is over, now it is just hurry up and wait.

Dude, that's funny to me because it's exactly what I did at my Oral Board. They asked me the first question, and all that came out of my mouth was "uhhh, uhhh, well umm, uhhh". They all started writing before any real words could come out of my mouth, and on the inside I was like "NOOOOO, don't start writing yet!". I was able to pull myself together in the end. Is that when you had your little freezing spell, at the beginning?

Where did the interview take place anyway? It wasn't at MATC again, was it?

SPARKYMN

08-17-2007, 12:12 PM

It was the first question but half way through it, then I pulled it to together.
The interview was at 325 johnson st. downtown.

LightsAndSirens

08-17-2007, 01:50 PM

It was the first question but half way through it, then I pulled it to together.
The interview was at 325 johnson st. downtown.

OK, I'm familiar with that area. Did you see any other candidates while you were there?

SPARKYMN

08-18-2007, 02:33 PM

NO but I was in and out of there fast.

LightsAndSirens

08-18-2007, 08:28 PM

NO but I was in and out of there fast.

Really? For some reason I was under the assumption that the Chief's Interview would last quite a bit longer than the Oral Board. Interviews like these are such an intense experience that it's hard to judge how much time has passed by. When my 15 minutes was up at the Oral Board, I couldn't believe it.

Did they give you any idea of how long it would be before you'd hear back?

Quickwrench34

08-19-2007, 01:16 AM

My interview went for about 35 min. They said that they would be calling when they get through with background checks. That is if you get picked.

LightsAndSirens

08-19-2007, 11:42 AM

My interview went for about 35 min. They said that they would be calling when they get through with background checks. That is if you get picked.

Do you feel it went alright, or is it hard to judge? That seems like an appropriate length for a more personal interview. Even though they don't do a thorough background check unless they want to hire you, I'm sure they at least did a preliminary background check on you before the interview, right? That way they know if you're being honest when answering some questions about your past.

Quickwrench34

08-20-2007, 05:38 PM

It's one of those things that is hard to judge. You never know what they are thinking, and you cant think about it. I dont know if they did a preliminary background check. They didnt bring anything up. I wonder how long it is going to be untill phone calls start going out.....

hotdog34

08-21-2007, 12:52 AM

Any info on the pre-employment physical. I received a call informing me that I was one of fourteen chosen for the position of firefighter. But, that I would have to pass a pre-employment physical. I have no fire experience and am unsure on how indepth a physical for the fire service will be. I have gained a great deal of knowledge through this forum and I wish thank all of you for the information.

The best of luck to all of you!

HOTDOG

largehose69

08-21-2007, 01:20 AM

I got my phone call saying I will be taking a physical exam and then be accepted in the next recruit class!!!!!!!!! I'm not worried at all, I bench 250 pounds easily and I run 5 miles a day. I was in fire explorers for 3 years so I'm confident I will have no problems with learning the job. I didn't like pumper work, When I was in fire explorers, there was a Lt. that would call us "PUMPER PUSSIES" and "YOU AREN"T MAN ENOUGH TO BE ON THE TRUCK". I have been working out for over a year and I think I can handle the truck now. There are plenty of guys that will want to be on the engine.

SEE YOU GUYS ON THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LARGEHOSE69

jccrabby3084

08-21-2007, 11:43 PM

Congrats you hosers....isn't there something to be cleaned?

I believe the physical is like most others out there. Pulmonary function test, EKG, hearing test, vision test, urinalysis (stay away from the dooby), blood test, (cholestrol etc) possibly some stretches and stuff, nothing really to sweat over.

Anyway good luck in the academy. It really isn't a joke and people have failed out of it before too. Study hard, keep up with fitness and enjoy the next 14 or so weeks. (However long the academy is)

SPARKYMN

08-21-2007, 11:47 PM

Good job guys you are living the dream!

MFDPRIDE

08-22-2007, 12:30 AM

I I didn't like pumper work, When I was in fire explorers, there was a Lt. that would call us "PUMPER P&*^%$S" and "YOU AREN"T MAN ENOUGH TO BE ON THE TRUCK". I have been working out for over a year and I think I can handle the truck now. There are plenty of guys that will want to be on the engine.

SEE YOU GUYS ON THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LARGEHOSE69

You bring that attitude into any firehouse and you are gonna get a taste of reality really quick.