Who said packing hose is not fun?

[nozzelvfd]

Now pack the hose, and dont complain its difficult anymore

[ROOKIELZ]

Why does the hose run under the length of the truck?

[fireman4949]

Why does the hose run under the length of the truck?

They are driving forward as they load it instead of either backing, or pulling the hose to the engine.

[ullrichk]

They are driving forward as they load it instead of either backing, or pulling the hose to the engine.

. . . the idea being that it's damn hard to run over one of your firefighters as they load hose if the engine is rolling away from them as they work.

Plus the driver can't get lost if you tell them to follow the big yellow line. :D

[CdnFD24]

Who cares! What I want to know..is when is the hose going to load itself!!!

Lol! j/k. It's great to see new inventions and innovations in the FD.

-What about automatic preconnect deployers?
-Hydraulic lift assist exosuits? (which actually exist but are so big and blocky they currently have no 'practical' use) :p
-Neurological implants? Learn HAZMAT Tech and Rope Rescue Tech in seconds! :eek: Hehe.

NJ

[NonSurfinCaFF]

Looks like a lot of wasted space for the lowering mechanism.


Here's an idea and its much cheaper, "just shaaadup and load the hose" :)

[LeuitEFDems]

It's funny...We were talking to our Pierce dealer about this hosebed (It's patented I bleive to Pierce as the Packmule) and they said don't even bother. The negatives outweight the benefits. We really didn't get into it because when they told us it limits your tank size to either 500 or 750 it was a moot point.

[SAFD46Truck]

Or..you could be a Truckie and skip the hose loading crap altogether! :D :p

[DeputyMarshal]

Who cares! What I want to know..is when is the hose going to load itself!!!

LDH reel. That's about as close to "self loading" as they come.

The only drawback is that you can't lay line as fast as you could with a traditional hose bed. OTOH, you can probably lay line as fast as you should with a traditional hose bed... ;)

Hand lines still work best hand packed but they're a lot less aggravation to load than the supply line anyway, IMHO.

[Ranburne]

We have a standard hose bed, but we drive forward to load the hose when possible. The driver can see what is in front much better than what is behind. It also eliminates the desire to pull the hose up off the road bed. As the hose comes out from under the truck it is layed up on the hose bed.

[nozzelvfd]

OK, what happens if the bed gets stuck???....... :D

[FlyingKiwi]

Why have they only got one set of pants on, and why are they YELLOW?

[ullrichk]

In looking again I noticed the LDH is loaded on opposite sides of the hose bed with a length of hose crossing over from one side to the other. It looks like 2-1/2" or 3" in between the two LDH bays.

Is there some reason I haven't heard of to split the lay like this? I'd be inclined to put LDH on one side, smaller hose on the other. What gives?

[ChicagoFF]

Now all they need are some real firemen to lead it out for them. What a sissy system.

[MemphisE34a]

Now all they need are some real firemen to lead it out for them. What a sissy system.
Ha. I have never liked it either. Glad someone is really staying on top of new technology. That thing has been out for a couple of years now. Its just not catching on.....wonder why?

[firedog21]

What ever happened to Hey Probie get your a$$ up on that F...ing Truck and load the the F...ing hose! :D :D Oh wait we can't say that anymore. Some one might get there feelings hurt!

Firedog21
I.A.F.F. Proud

[mcaldwell]

All in the name of Ergonomics.

Your insurance company would be proud. ;) :D

[KenNFD1219]

In looking again I noticed the LDH is loaded on opposite sides of the hose bed with a length of hose crossing over from one side to the other. It looks like 2-1/2" or 3" in between the two LDH bays.

Is there some reason I haven't heard of to split the lay like this? I'd be inclined to put LDH on one side, smaller hose on the other. What gives?My guess is to keep the load balanced; easier on the hydraulics and lifting mechanism.

[mcaldwell]

My guess is to keep the load balanced; easier on the hydraulics and lifting mechanism.

Yup, and the sides fold down, and those center sections of 2 1/2 can be slid out to load independantly as well. The idea is no one climbs anywhere on the truck.

A waste of space, weight, and money to me.

[Bones42]

I've seen lots of sales promotion pictures of this "innovation" by Pierce. Does anyone know anyone that actually HAS one of these? Really would be curious to see how they actually work on a fireground, not a sales demo.

Awfully clean gear and hose in that picture... :D

[OlieCan]

seems like a huge waste of space.

[nozzelvfd]

Awfully clean gear and hose in that picture... :D

They where on a washdown call...... :p

[IFDFFENG20]

I can't resist....How come only the men are loading the hose? Gotta run, here come the PC Police.

[fireman4949]

I can't resist....How come only the men are loading the hose? Gotta run, here come the PC Police.

'Cause 5" is heavy! :eek: :p :rolleyes:

[dustinlevengood]

how big of a tank can that thing have if the whole center section is big ol stupid hydraulic hose bed?

[LeuitEFDems]

how big of a tank can that thing have if the whole center section is big ol stupid hydraulic hose bed?
it's either 500 or 750

[mtnfireguy]

http://www.piercemfg.com/company/newsstory.cfm?ID=133

In addition to the Pack Mule hosebed, each Enforcer pumper is equipped with TAK-4® independent front suspension, a Side Roll Protection™ system, a 500-gallon water tank, a 1,500 gpm Waterous pump, the Husky® foam system, a 400 hp Cummins ISL engine, a 10" raised-roof cab and a 19" extended front bumper. Singer Associates Fire Equipment Inc. of Gainesville, Va., is the local Pierce dealer.

[FFFRED]

seems like a huge waste of space.


Collosal waste of space and $$$

FTM-PTB

[CdnFD24]

Climb two steps to get up top and you have the same effect.

Loading a 4 or 5" flat lay is just about the easiest task in the service. :p

I'm waiting for a hydraulic arm with a manipulator to lay the hose while the bed lowers itself to the ground. :D

[KnightnPBIArmor]

seems like a huge waste of space.

Not to mention one more moving part to break and have to keep paying to fix once it starts showing it's age.

[PureAdrenalin]

Not to mention one more moving part to break and have to keep paying to fix once it starts showing it's age.

I saw one of these on a demo, during the demo...it failed. While a hydraulic line can fail at any point in time..it would just be aggravating to know that because of the suit and tie, safety susies..your truck is now OOS, because you might get injured while loading hose.

[Kvfcsfd]

Doesn't this hosebed defeat the purpose of explorers/cadets/juniors?

[fire0099881]

How about how much weight that would be putting behind the rear axle? could it start to list the steering axle off the ground? also look's like you can't fit as much hose on it.

[FlyingKiwi]

And why are their pants YELLOW?

[Catch22]

Think those guys would do a hose loading class? Even the ones that can do a good job can't load hose that pretty.

[fire0099881]

And why are their pants YELLOW?

I got a better one, why is there 3 loading the hose, and 1 directing the driver?! seems like anytime it comes to us loading hose everyone scatters!

[doughesson]

I got a better one, why is there 3 loading the hose, and 1 directing the driver?! seems like anytime it comes to us loading hose everyone scatters!

Like the time a boss got tired of us boat crews hanging around the wharf during shift change and expecting us to be either checking the boats out or walking up the hill?
One day after we'd decided to go back to our usual ways,Bossman showed up just as a truck full of face wires for a towboat that broke all of theirs arrived for us to take out.
Immediately,11 guys started waving and guiding the flatbed down the ramp onto the wharf.

[doughesson]

http://www.piercemfg.com/company/newsstory.cfm?ID=133

In addition to the Pack Mule hosebed, each Enforcer pumper is equipped with TAK-4® independent front suspension, a Side Roll Protection™ system, a 500-gallon water tank, a 1,500 gpm Waterous pump, the Husky® foam system, a 400 hp Cummins ISL engine, a 10" raised-roof cab and a 19" extended front bumper. Singer Associates Fire Equipment Inc. of Gainesville, Va., is the local Pierce dealer.

My old department is always looking for new things for us lazy types,but we passed on this one because we'd rather have as much water on board as we could get.If we can't have 1,000 gallons,we'd take 850 and deep compartments for extra tool storage.
The Enforcer is a good chassis,though.Lots of room and quiet enough that you don't have to yell if you don't have a plug into the intercom.

[GodSendRain]

"Water? Doh, I knew we forgot something. Good thing we got this lever to lift hydrants up out of the ground so we don't have to reach down and hook up to an outlet."