Question about 10 Q-s

[bumpcrys]

If we have recieved our 10 Q-s is that a sure thing that we are getting the grant?

[ktb9780]

Your about 99% of the way guy. :)

[jFredAyars]

Are there any departments you know of who received the 1199a update request, and the 10 questions, who have NOT been awarded?

And ... what hurdles are left AFTER those 2 steps?

J. Fred Ayars
Chief, Salem NJ

[BC79er]

No hurdles after that, just a lot of hovering until the official announcement.

There have been handfuls of late 1199A notices that got pulled last year for trucks when someone didn't carry the 1 in figuring out how much money they had to hand out. But those were highly isolated. At this stage in the game, an 1199A is 99-44/100s of the way to an award.

[bumpcrys]

How long after you answer 10 Q-s do u get a reply?

[SLY4420]

How long after you answer 10 Q-s do u get a reply?

You won't receive a "reply" unless they are following up because they did not receive them. The next step is waiting for the official announcement.

Right now, we still have pending awards from September that are not announced yet. I would guess that 1199As this week translate to at least a month wait.

[ford88jarrett]

On Tuesday I recieved a reduction notice on equipment. I called the lady handeling are grant about the reductions. We agreed to them. I then asked her about how long it would be until are award announcement and if we were for sure getting this award. She told me there were a few more steps after her office we had to go through. Does anyone that has had a reduction notice recivied there award this year from AFG?

[SLY4420]

Yes, some people who have been reduced have been awarded, however they were reduced over a month ago.

[asstrace]

Got the 10 ?s. You just reply to the -email right? No mailing of the ?s right as it does not give an address to send to.

Thanks

[BC79er]

Yes, just a reply. Easier to put 1) answer, etc, etc down the list. Rather than put your answer under the questions, since not all of them apply to every project.

[onehotcowboy]

We applied for the grants for 3 years, never got anything. We applied again this year for a pumper. We went and bought one, just got delivered in Sept. We also just got our 1199 forms and 10 questions. Can we apply that money towards a new pumper/tanker. We severly need to get a new tanker. Ours has no baffles, frame is shot, jumps in and out of gear, etc. It states that we need to apply for pumper, pumper tanker, mini pumper. Im assuming this shouldnt be a problem, but would like other feedback. And is it looking good for us since we got the 10 questions??? Any help would be very much appreciated...Thanks

[ktb9780]

It states that we need to apply for pumper, pumper tanker, mini pumper.


What is the "it states", you are referring to? :confused:

[onehotcowboy]

When we applied, we applied for money for a new pumper. A couple of the guys are doing the grant. One called me and asked me to come here to ask questions, so...here I am. He explained to me about because we applied for a pumper, we have to get a pumper. Is this true??? And if so, can we use it for a very needed pumper tanker??? Sorry for my stupidness, Im just going off what this other guy is telling me. Im hoping to find out more answers here.

[BC79er]

Yes, you applied for a pumper so that's what you need to buy for the amount you asked for at minimum.

But you can put as big a water tank on it as you can afford to make it a pumper-tanker. As long as it holds as many FFs, has at least the pump capacity you asked for, etc, etc they don't care if you paint it pink with purple polka dots. ;)

[fyremanbob]

My gut feeling from being a frequent reader (and info user) of these forums is that you already bought what you applied for. You must have declared in the grant that you did not have the money for such a project but now you do. I think this years grant is void and you should apply next year. Of course, now having a brand new truck will hurt your chances. Don't go on my opinion alone, KTB, BC79er, or some of the others will have more insight.

bob

[BC79er]

Missed that part of it the first time. If the truck was ordered prior to the application submission, or in the stream somewhere (had approval, reviewing bids, etc) then it had to have been declared on the application as a 2006 truck in service currently with the department. If this was done, then all is good on that front.

If it wasn't, then contact your FPS to see if purchasing the new truck that you needed the grant for is still valid since you already bought it. Better to ask now than wait until the site audit and watch them tow the truck bought with the grant away. Has happened a lot unfortunately.

[ktb9780]

I would echo that advice. If you had it in the stream and declared your intent prior to the grnat being filed then you are OK but, if you got it afterwards it is going to be pretty hard to justify that you were " financially needy" and then accept the other grant. Call FPS at firegrant support and fess up, less you get caught between a rock and hard place. ;)

[onehotcowboy]

Ok, we submitted the grant a month before we even got approved from the town. Then we got plans rolling and got one ordered April29th,2006. We took delivery of it in Sept 06. We put down on the grant for a safty issue on getting a new pumper, replacing a 1972 Howe, 750gpm,750 booster. A grant writing instructor told us that we would be ok if we ordered it after the application was sent in. I hope she was right. Thats all I know at this time.

[LVFD301]

Ok, we submitted the grant a month before we even got approved from the town. Then we got plans rolling and got one ordered April29th,2006. We took delivery of it in Sept 06. We put down on the grant for a safty issue on getting a new pumper, replacing a 1972 Howe, 750gpm,750 booster. A grant writing instructor told us that we would be ok if we ordered it after the application was sent in. I hope she was right. Thats all I know at this time.


Is that grant writing instructor going to make up the money the FEDS is going to want back?

This is an arguement for the instructors that are specializing in the Fire Service.

And, it is a good example of a situation where it is best NOT to act first
and ask for forgiveness later. I would be contacting the AFG folks on Monday.....

[imafireman]

Ok, we submitted the grant a month before we even got approved from the town. Then we got plans rolling and got one ordered April29th,2006. We took delivery of it in Sept 06. We put down on the grant for a safty issue on getting a new pumper, replacing a 1972 Howe, 750gpm,750 booster. A grant writing instructor told us that we would be ok if we ordered it after the application was sent in. I hope she was right. Thats all I know at this time.

We purchased a 1978 Pumper from the Grafton Wisconsin fire department back in 2000. We still have it in service as a pumper/rescue. It amazed me when we were out there how the fire service works. You guys approach your town for such things, and they approve it for you. Here in PA, we have nothing like that. I think the state of PA has things all messed up when it comes to funding for the volunteer departments. We HAVE to rely on our own fundraising activities to purchase stuff such as this. We do have our volunteer relief, but we can go through that with the simple updates to our equipment to keep it going. If there is any way possible, you guys could transfer ownership of the Pumper to us and then you could get the one through the grant. LOL I hope it all works out for you. I am patiently waiting for our DJ notice.

[ktb9780]

IMHO you better talk to AFG and firegrant support before accepting that pumper.Not wishing to cast the first stone here but, I can foresee FRONT PAGE HEADLINES about abuse, fraud etc.., who knows where the press or some citizen would take this and probably rightfully so.

Do the right thing here guy, tell them you found the financial resources to afford the purchase yourself, and let them fund someone less fortunate than you. Too few trucks, too little money! ;)

[onehotcowboy]

Well, first thing first. Lets just see if we get the money first, then if we do we will call and find out more info. Kinda jumpin the gun here I am, just lookin for input. Thanks for the info. Will let you all know how it pans out, Thanks again....

[BC79er]

Per the PG: Applicants must include in their vehicle inventory any vehicle that is on order if the department or its sponsoring municipality has signed a contract or otherwise committed to purchase said vehicle.

So if the town was considering the order of the vehicle before April 7th and just hadn't had the vote to approve the purchase the y'all are in the magic gray area. But either way your financial condition certainly wasn't accurate since they managed to have a truck ordered within 22 days of the application period closing.

In Kurt's previous post about 'Rock' and 'Hard Place' I believe those might be prisoners in the federal corrections system. :eek:

As LV said, the grant writer isn't on the hook, y'all are if there is any fraud etc. It is better to be up front with DHS than surprise them at audit time. This is definitely not a case of better to ask forgiveness than permission.

Since y'all have the 1199A and questions, better contact them tomorrow.

[Greenacres2]

Is that grant writing instructor going to make up the money the FEDS is going to want back?

This is an arguement for the instructors that are specializing in the Fire Service.
And, it is a good example of a situation where it is best NOT to act first
and ask for forgiveness later. I would be contacting the AFG folks on Monday.....

AMEN!! No point in "waiting to see if you get the money", you got the 1199 and 10q's. It will be much easier if the department in question calls ASAP. I'm by no means an expert, but i'd be willing to bet that your pre-award purchase won't qualify as an emergency under the PG.

After the call to the AFG help desk, the next step would be to get approval for somebody to roll 400 miles south in March to get some proper public safety grant training. Just a thought.

earl

[onehotcowboy]

WHOA!!!!!!! First off, we went off our Fire Dept finances. We did not plan on getting ANY truck before the grant was made out, unless we got a grant. We are not trying to HIDE anything. You all dont know the whole situation, behind this. I just come on here to ask some questions, and now Im a criminal, fraud, abuser...etc. We are going to contact the grant office, not knowing if we can use this to pay for the new truck, or another one. Our main decision on getting a new truck right away was made because the 2007 chassis cost 7000-8000 dollars more because of the new emissions. Like I stated, we applied for the last 3-4 years and never made it to any level. So within 2 weeks we decided to act on getting a new truck.Which was in mid-April. We did have to go to our Town to do it, because our Fire Dept is VERY low funded. And let me tell you...it was not easy. They were not aware of this until mid-April. We would like to get a new Tanker in the next couple of years, but I guess we cant apply for a grant because we are thinking about now. We want to get a grant to purchase a JAWS, but...we thought about it before we submitted the grant...so I guess thats void to. I guess no-one here thinks about what they want before they put in for a grant. Thats how Im taking all these responses.I want to thank you for making us feel like total CRAP for trying to make our dept better, to serve our community better...especially when we are STRICTLY VOLUNTEER, NO PAY or SEVERANCE what so ever. Sorry to inconvienance all of you.Sorry I asked ANY questions. Thought I could come here and not get bashed. As far as driving 400 miles south to get "PROPER" training...I did not know how blessed we are to have such an "ELITE" instructors so close to our state that is so stupid. Im sure you all put fires out better than everyone also, but thats another topic.

[BC79er]

Settle down hoss, no one is here trying to make y'all feel like crap. We're here to make sure that you keep your grant award. And I'm a volunteer like most everyone else here so that no pay thing is kind of a moot point. I've been in 14 years, no pay per call, no stipend, no retirement, no big deal to me that's why I've had two jobs since I was 14.

Anyway, given what you've typed so far everything is ambiguous enough that we can't give you a set answer. And even then it doesn't matter what we say because you need to get approval from DHS on it since they're the ones whose sandbox we're playing in. I know they won't let you pay for the truck that came in September because you can only do that if you get prior approval to do so. They need to clear it before you even order the truck, so that option is out.

Technically, the truck wasn't ordered or anything until after the grant app was submitted. So you didn't need to count it on the application. But I can tell you that it will be a hard sell that in less than 2 weeks after that you convinced the town to buy you one without ever mentioning it before.

Get with DHS and let them know tomorrow what the situation is. If they have no problem with it then build it like a tanker because that will be allowed also.

Again, we're trying to keep your fat out of the fire. Because if you do not bring it up to them they could tow the truck at the site audit. It has been done several times before, that's why we're strongly advocating the contact. We're not disagreeing y'all don't need a new truck, or that you shouldn't have scored as high as you did to have a pending award. But if you want to keep it make the phone call tomorrow.

[batt403]

WHOA!!!!!!! First off, we went off our Fire Dept finances. We did not plan on getting ANY truck before the grant was made out, unless we got a grant. We are not trying to HIDE anything. You all dont know the whole situation, behind this. I just come on here to ask some questions, and now Im a criminal, fraud, abuser...etc. We are going to contact the grant office, not knowing if we can use this to pay for the new truck, or another one. Our main decision on getting a new truck right away was made because the 2007 chassis cost 7000-8000 dollars more because of the new emissions. Like I stated, we applied for the last 3-4 years and never made it to any level. So within 2 weeks we decided to act on getting a new truck.Which was in mid-April. We did have to go to our Town to do it, because our Fire Dept is VERY low funded. And let me tell you...it was not easy. They were not aware of this until mid-April. We would like to get a new Tanker in the next couple of years, but I guess we cant apply for a grant because we are thinking about now. We want to get a grant to purchase a JAWS, but...we thought about it before we submitted the grant...so I guess thats void to. I guess no-one here thinks about what they want before they put in for a grant. Thats how Im taking all these responses.I want to thank you for making us feel like total CRAP for trying to make our dept better, to serve our community better...especially when we are STRICTLY VOLUNTEER, NO PAY or SEVERANCE what so ever. Sorry to inconvienance all of you.Sorry I asked ANY questions. Thought I could come here and not get bashed. As far as driving 400 miles south to get "PROPER" training...I did not know how blessed we are to have such an "ELITE" instructors so close to our state that is so stupid. Im sure you all put fires out better than everyone also, but thats another topic.

Wow.....I always try to remember one thing before I ask a question.......be careful what you ask for because you may not like what you get..... :D

Sorry for the bad news, this grant may have been the golden egg for your department. :(

[LVFD301]

WHOA!!!!!!! First off, we went off our Fire Dept finances. We did not plan on getting ANY truck before the grant was made out, unless we got a grant. We are not trying to HIDE anything. You all dont know the whole situation, behind this. I just come on here to ask some questions, and now Im a criminal, fraud, abuser...etc. We are going to .


Durn. No one called you all those things. To a person, everyone said
to contact the AFG office for guidance.

I understand being upset about the situation, but make the call, see what
they can do for you - and relax!

[imafireman]

WHOA!!!!!!! First off, we went off our Fire Dept finances. We did not plan on getting ANY truck before the grant was made out, unless we got a grant. We are not trying to HIDE anything. You all dont know the whole situation, behind this. I just come on here to ask some questions, and now Im a criminal, fraud, abuser...etc. We are going to contact the grant office, not knowing if we can use this to pay for the new truck, or another one. Our main decision on getting a new truck right away was made because the 2007 chassis cost 7000-8000 dollars more because of the new emissions. Like I stated, we applied for the last 3-4 years and never made it to any level. So within 2 weeks we decided to act on getting a new truck.Which was in mid-April. We did have to go to our Town to do it, because our Fire Dept is VERY low funded. And let me tell you...it was not easy. They were not aware of this until mid-April. We would like to get a new Tanker in the next couple of years, but I guess we cant apply for a grant because we are thinking about now. We want to get a grant to purchase a JAWS, but...we thought about it before we submitted the grant...so I guess thats void to. I guess no-one here thinks about what they want before they put in for a grant. Thats how Im taking all these responses.I want to thank you for making us feel like total CRAP for trying to make our dept better, to serve our community better...especially when we are STRICTLY VOLUNTEER, NO PAY or SEVERANCE what so ever. Sorry to inconvienance all of you.Sorry I asked ANY questions. Thought I could come here and not get bashed. As far as driving 400 miles south to get "PROPER" training...I did not know how blessed we are to have such an "ELITE" instructors so close to our state that is so stupid. Im sure you all put fires out better than everyone also, but thats another topic.


I think the main thing these guys are trying to say is to contact before they grant the award. I do not see you being in any trouble unless you accept an award without letting the AFG know the complete story. I hope everything works out well for you guys.

[onehotcowboy]

IMHO you better talk to AFG and firegrant support before accepting that pumper.Not wishing to cast the first stone here but, I can foresee FRONT PAGE HEADLINES about abuse, fraud etc.., who knows where the press or some citizen would take this and probably rightfully so.

Do the right thing here guy, tell them you found the financial resources to afford the purchase yourself, and let them fund someone less fortunate than you. Too few trucks, too little money! ;)
HHHHHHMMMMM...what does this say.....YES...they were accusing us. I still hope we get it!!! BC79ner, has at least been respectful, and has been very informational. It seems he really understands what I am trying to say or ask. Not afraid to ask questions for what I might hear, but at least be respectful and dont make people sound like dumbasses.I already know Im stupid on alot of this legality stuff...thats why I came here. Not to get the your really are stupid rubbed in my nose. Like come down 400 miles and get proper training...what the hell does that mean??? We dont have qualified people here??? You dont know the whole situation, so dont judge to harshly.

[LVFD301]

HHHHHHMMMMM...what does this say.....YES...they were accusing us. I still hope we get it!!! BC79ner, has at least been respectful, and has been very informational. It seems he really understands what I am trying to say or ask. Not afraid to ask questions for what I might hear, but at least be respectful and dont make people sound like dumbasses.I already know Im stupid on alot of this legality stuff...thats why I came here. Not to get the your really are stupid rubbed in my nose. Like come down 400 miles and get proper training...what the hell does that mean??? We dont have qualified people here??? You dont know the whole situation, so dont judge to harshly.


I suspect that it is a communication error. What he was saying is that the PUBLIC or the NEWSPAPER might take it wrong. If you don't call AFG quickly,
AFG may take it wrong. NO one is saying you are intentionally trying to defraud or abuse the system.

The part about coming down 400 miles for a training class? You are taking
your information from a "grant writing instructor" who does not appear to have a clue. Someone needs to get that training. I know I sure needed it.

You even admit she may not have known the real deal when you say you "hope" she was right!

You have an invitation to a class taught specifically for the fire service, by a grant writing guru... If I were you, I would jump on it. I know I am going to try to see if I can get an invite.

Tell you what - If I do, and you show up? I will buy you dinner at the place of your choice.....

[LVFD301]

And trust me BTW Cowboy, I have to drive probably as much as you if not further to get there, and my department won't be footing the bill - only so much you can do with a $6,500.00 a year budget!

[Catch22]

Ok, we submitted the grant a month before we even got approved from the town. Then we got plans rolling and got one ordered April29th,2006. We took delivery of it in Sept 06. We put down on the grant for a safty issue on getting a new pumper, replacing a 1972 Howe, 750gpm,750 booster. A grant writing instructor told us that we would be ok if we ordered it after the application was sent in. I hope she was right. Thats all I know at this time.
I'm curious how in the world you got a truck built and delivered in that time frame! I've had our pumper/tanker ordered for a year now and I'm still waiting delivery!

On the other spectrum, I have serious doubts Kurt was claiming you guys were defrauding anyone. You have to admit from the outside looking in, it looks a little on the slick side. I completely understand where you're coming from, approach the town council without a hope in the world and bam, they do the unlikely and allow you to get it ordered. But to be fair, there are departments out there that would do what happened intentionally.

I know a department near me that got awarded a truck for their rural department (technically, they were seperate, but they use the same manpower and equipment in both regards). The next year, they got awarded for the city (it may have been vice versa, but you get the jist). Only problem was, the two departments were joined by voting in a tax district only months before the second truck was awarded. They got dang lucky the called grant support (who subsequently pulled the funding) before ordering the truck and having to repay nearly $200K

LVFD--Geez man, I thought I was in bad shape with $20K!! I need to try to remember to drop you a line and see which grant seminar you're going to, might be the same one I'm looking at. I'm in the same boat, probably have to pay for it myself. But so is the life of a vollie chief!

[onehotcowboy]

LVFD....Thanks for the invite, but I wont be going down. this whole grant thing isnt for me. The other members who wrote it should be doing this, and I will let them know. I am done with this topic. Thanks again

[ktb9780]

HHHHHHMMMMM...what does this say.....YES...they were accusing us. I still hope we get it!!! BC79ner, has at least been respectful, and has been very informational. It seems he really understands what I am trying to say or ask. Not afraid to ask questions for what I might hear, but at least be respectful and dont make people sound like dumbasses.I already know Im stupid on alot of this legality stuff...thats why I came here. Not to get the your really are stupid rubbed in my nose. Like come down 400 miles and get proper training...what the hell does that mean??? We dont have qualified people here??? You dont know the whole situation, so dont judge to harshly.


HHHHHMMMMMHHH! What is says, if you would calm down and read instead of jumping to conclusions is: " If you don't want a bunch of negative publicity , news media and public opinion "spinning" this situation into a " fraud or abuse" case, you had better talk to DHS first and get things square with them. If they give you permission, you guys are OFF THE HOOK. The ball will be in THEIR COURT, NOT YOURS.

The informaton you recived from, let me see, EVERYONE in here was deisgned to keep you guys out of the press and out of handcuffs. That is what you came in here asking, that is what you recieved.

As someone who has been a Public Information Officer and criminal investigator for 25+ years, I can speak from experience that the situation you are in is "ripe" for someone ( read the press and uninfomed public) to "spin" this in the wrong light and you guys, your city and your commissioners end up with egg on your face and an army of Federal auditors and investigators looking at ALL your activities and files form the last 20 years.

Sorry that you "spun" the original comments out of context but, you should use that as an example of just how quickly this thing could blow up in your face. Take it easy guy, no one is bashing you here. You came for advice and got some pretty darned good advice here. Take it and stay out of the headlines!

[Greenacres2]

You have an invitation to a class taught specifically for the fire service, by a grant writing guru... If I were you, I would jump on it. I know I am going to try to see if I can get an invite.

Tell you what - If I do, and you show up? I will buy you dinner at the place of your choice.....

LVFD--You have an open invite, i'll dig up your e-mail address and send a copy of the flyer. Small town, so the dinner choices are few, but i think i can talk my wife into letting me go out for a meal. Maybe you could convince another dept to ride up with you. Shoot, for that matter, bring your wife and we could get a child passenger safety seminar going in the evening!!

hotcowboy--sorry i stepped on your pointed toed boots, but your dept is getting advised by somebody who might very well have given you a $150,000 bum steer. If you want info on the program we are hosting to pass on to the guys who might be interested, give me an e-mail address. Not judging you or your dept. I've got a few issues with your "grant writer", but like you said--i don't know the full story.

earl

[k3twpfire]

LVFD--You have an open invite, i'll dig up your e-mail address and send a copy of the flyer. Small town, so the dinner choices are few, but i think i can talk my wife into letting me go out for a meal. Maybe you could convince another dept to ride up with you. Shoot, for that matter, bring your wife and we could get a child passenger safety seminar going in the evening!!



I am registered for the Pleasant Township Fire Department seminar. ;)

[Tonyg26]

We recieved and replied to the 1199A for a SAFER R & R grant.
Also received 11 Q's - sent directly to my email address. 9 of the 11 appear to be standard questions (woudl you accept, do you understand you have to use NFIRS, have you received a AFG grant before, etc).
1 - is it normal to recieve question direct?
2 - can I send you the 2 q's via Email (with my replies) for guidance? do want to answer them wrong and get us denied

Many thanks!!!!

[Tonyg26]

2 - DO NOT want to answer them wrong and get denied

[BC79er]

The Inbox is always open Tony. :)

And yes, they normally come to the Profile email, not the application Mail Center.

[ktb9780]

We recieved and replied to the 1199A for a SAFER R & R grant.
Also received 11 Q's - sent directly to my email address. 9 of the 11 appear to be standard questions (woudl you accept, do you understand you have to use NFIRS, have you received a AFG grant before, etc).
1 - is it normal to recieve question direct?
2 - can I send you the 2 q's via Email (with my replies) for guidance? do want to answer them wrong and get us denied

Many thanks!!!!

Give me a shout or email Tony. ;)

[Greenacres2]

I am registered for the Pleasant Township Fire Department seminar. ;)

Dang--i just sent you the flyer!! It will be an honor to be in the presence of a two-time SAFER winner. Is Maxwell House coffee okay, or do we need to kick up the fundraising efforts so we can provide Starbucks?? :D

earl

[ktb9780]

Dang--i just sent you the flyer!! It will be an honor to be in the presence of a two-time SAFER winner. Is Maxwell House coffee okay, or do we need to kick up the fundraising efforts so we can provide Starbucks?? :D

earl

Just make sure it is in expresso grind and in large quantities! LOL!

[onebugle]

Wow, take a few days off to help the oldest with his Eagle Scout Project and miss some fireworks.

Onehotcowboy, no one is saying that you folks have done anything wrong. Everyone is trying to give you an informed opinion based on interpretation of the PG or "We've been there, done that. This is the outcome." Your grant application hits upon a huge "gray area" that only can be answered by someone with more authority. Hence the call to your FPS for clarification. Best to get an answer now, than find out later it's a major issue.

So within 2 weeks we decided to act on getting a new truck.Which was in mid-April. We did have to go to our Town to do it, because our Fire Dept is VERY low funded. And let me tell you...it was not easy.

I agree with you that it's never easy to get a community to fund large capital projects. Congratulations on proving your case to the Town. I do have one question in regards to that purchase.

Did you inform the Town that you had submitted a grant application for the vehicle you got approved? If not, I wouldn't worry about what the Feds could do to you. Your credibility with the Town could be an issue, which could hamper future funding. People remember if a fast one was pulled on them.

We have been there and done that with a former chief. They don't forget.

[rbh1957]

Did I get this right, that the 10q will come direct not through the mail center. The reason I ask is that we received the 1199A notice on our last years 1199A back on 11/14/2006. My concern is that our internet provider has been playing with the security levels and the 10q could have been lost. I know it could be a few weeks between 1199A and the questions, but like everyone ealse I don't want to screw it up.

[ktb9780]

Did I get this right, that the 10q will come direct not through the mail center. The reason I ask is that we received the 1199A notice on our last years 1199A back on 11/14/2006. My concern is that our internet provider has been playing with the security levels and the 10q could have been lost. I know it could be a few weeks between 1199A and the questions, but like everyone ealse I don't want to screw it up.

Sit tight,you may have to wiat a week or two to get them. If oyu have not heard anything by Dec 15, then you might wish to call and ask about it.

[onebugle]

In the perfect world you should recieve email at both locations. In the real world it maybe one or the other or both. In the past I have recieved the q's twice through both and 1 time at my personal email only.

Since you recieved the 1199A on the 14th, the q's can come at any time. If you have an issue with the provider changing the security levels, give them a call to see if it will affect incoming emails.

[batt403]

We applied for the grants for 3 years, never got anything. We applied again this year for a pumper. We went and bought one, just got delivered in Sept. We also just got our 1199 forms and 10 questions. Can we apply that money towards a new pumper/tanker. We severly need to get a new tanker. Ours has no baffles, frame is shot, jumps in and out of gear, etc. It states that we need to apply for pumper, pumper tanker, mini pumper. Im assuming this shouldnt be a problem, but would like other feedback. And is it looking good for us since we got the 10 questions??? Any help would be very much appreciated...Thanks

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Somerset Fire / Rescue Operations and Safety $35,834
Argonne Fire Department Vehicle Acquisition $141,550


Just wondering if it is one and the same:rolleyes:

[Jeff725]

we replied to our 10 questions on 10-10 and received our denial letter on 01/09/07. Our local DHS rep does not even see on their system us being issued our questions.

[SLY4420]

What was the reason for denial?

[onebugle]

One possible reason for the denial after recieving the 10 q's is the failure to complete the final closeut reports in a timely manner; especially if there have been repeated attempts by the AFG or your FPS to get them completed.

It has been done.

[SLY4420]

That's what I was getting at...