CSA Contract!?

[cowfire]

I have been looking into CSA out of kuwait and I am very impressed with there benefits and living conditions.

Is there anyone on this thead currently working for or worked for that can pass on any information regarding the company. Work hrs? leadership? training? living? recreation and so on?

thanks

[pyromike66]

Cowfire, I worked for CSA for 2 years and can help you out. Just send me an email to pyromike66@yahoo.com.

Mike

[tanker3213]

I am considering going through CSA...any suggestions? I have also reasearched KBR and WSI...any thoughts on these?

Thanks!

[cowfire]

Go to CSA!!! Little less money but from what I have been told by pyro and the csakuwait.com website its WORTH the less pay.

[Rescue241]

I am looking for alittle more info on csa. How much is the pay? and what kind of hours do they work?

[pyromike66]

Salary depends on hours and OT. Just heard that the hours are going to be 24 on 48 off. Expect between 65 - 75K salary (that is including per diem and end of contract bonus).

[needlejockey]

How difficult is it to get on with them? What all do they provide for leave wise? I saw on their site that they give you a trip to Frankfurt Germany at 6 months. Also lastly, I know it's a year long contract, but what happens if you find that Kuwait just ain't for you and you want out of the contract?

One more lastly - How dangerous is this? What kind of safeguards are there?

[cowfire]

You can get out of any contract if you want. You have to remember is that it can follow you if you decide to continue contract work, that you quit before your contract ended. I know for us in Iraq its more dangerous than kuwaut, you should ne ok but like anywhere you never no man. Just be smart about what you go out and do and dont run around whearing clothes that say USA RULZZZZZZ!!!

[pyromike66]

Cowfire is right about getting out of a contract. But, with CSA anyway, you will forfeit the end of contract bonus (approx 3K), and I believe if you quit within the probationary period (90 days) you will have to pay back all costs including the flight to and from Kuwait (another 3K) and any other costs that CSA provided to get you there. If you pass the initial 90 days and then quit, you will just have to pay for the return flight. Dont quote me on those specific details as I can't remember exactly. Remember that if you do quit, you will possibly "burn your bridge" there and hurt your chances for working there again in the future.

It is a little difficult getting on initially. They are very specific about who they hire, cert and experience wise, because of the past morons that have been hired, and also because of being full staffed. If you apply just be patient and keep buggin the recruiters. I also just heard that alot of firefighters I knew there are about to finish their contracts. So they may be needing ff's soon.

As far as safety goes, ill just say that I was there 2 years and never felt threatened in any way. Like Cowfire says, just got to keep your head on and don't be stupid...remember that we are a guest in their country. The US Embassy will post potential threats periodically, which we always read to be aware of the surroundings. However, a HUGE danger I believe, is the driving. Absolutely crazy and I responded to quite a few fatal accidents (involving both servicemembers and civilians) because of the "no - rules" driving. Its no joke.

Hope this helps

Mike

[needlejockey]

Thanks for the info. I hadn't really thought about doing this until recently, but it seems like a really nice deal. Hopefully I'll hear back from them soon.

[pyromike66]

Oh, CSA will pay for a ticket to Frankfurt at the 6 month point or give you cash - in - leiu if you choose to go somewhere else ($860).

[needlejockey]

One last thing (probably not but worth saying it), I was reading on their requirments for the job that they want you to have attended a "formal academy". Me being a volunteer I've never had the occassion to attend something that's pretty much reserved for most paid guys. Any thoughts on if that will make a difference? I've still got the certifications, just no "formal academy".

[pyromike66]

I don't know the specific rules on this one. Could be a case by case situation. If you have enough paid and/or military experience, and the certs, I would still apply and see what happens.

[FireGirl78]

Hey Mikey,
Now don't let these good people just know the finner parts of Kuwait. There's a drawback. Nothing's as good as it seems. Its a good way to come home with some equity but remember you go there alone and its a far place. You need to know who you can trust as fast as possible so if you're a bad judge of character don't go. Also, if you're looking for an education I hope you look inward cause its all self taughtor whatever guys are willing to share. The training dept is a joke. I only add that because of high expectation I had. Also, rumor has it that being former Marine helps you get in. Hey, don't shoot the messsanger...its just what I heard.

The Black Widow

[ksheets]

Hey FireGirl
You should not be as concerned about other peoples character as you should your own. Those who do, Do and those who dont find a forum to bit** on.

[pyromike66]

FireGirl, if you are who I think you are, then yes you do know me from somewhere. Could it be the V-ball court? Anyway, you should know...if you go there if an open mind then everything will be fine. A good judge of one's character and maturity is to see how that individual adapts to any given situation at any time. Truth is, that not everyone is suited for this type of work. Its a contract job. No one is forcing anyone to go, or stay once they get there. Sure, there were difficult times but I made the best of it (unlike all the cry-babies that just whined the entire time) and came out with a good experience. I also knew exactly what I was getting into (remember..the Chief told EVERYONE he hired what to expect). Maybe you didn't get what you wanted out of there, but I did and plus more. To each his/her own eh? As far as being former Marine? I disagree completely. I'm not a former Marine and I got in. I also knew several guys, and girls, who had no military time whatsoever.

In the end, it's all about good times. Not the bad.

[pyromike66]

FireGirl,

P.S. I am telling everyone MY story. Not yours or anyone else's. If you have a story, then feel free to post it. Two sides to a story are always better than one.

[ExplorerCaptain]

Are the contractors protecting the military bases over there, or are they in the actual Iraqi territorry?

[pyromike66]

CSA operates in Kuwait only.

[abaustin]

I've never been there, but I've heard the "Marine" comment about the Kuwait job several times (though never to the point of excluding non-Marines) and I believe it to be true. And justly so.

Frankly speaking, anyone in this business should expect that a prior-service firefighter is going to have a much larger leg up on a civilian, and that anyone with prior service is still going to have a hell of a start on his resume if he has comparable skills to you. It's just good business-sense .. people who have performed well in any of the services are going to be able to perform in a far-away location that is completely unlike the civilian world. All contract work (at least as people here primarily view it) is an extension of military work, so they SHOULD be chosen with priority.

Also, having worked with several Marines, most have a hell of a work ethic, and have this habit of working an honest 8 to 10 hours a day (or at least looking really busy), which if I were an employer would be a big plus in my book. The only drawback to Marine firefighters from my limited experiance is that while in the Corps they are primarily ARFF firefighters (someone correct me if I am wrong) and are weak on the structural side when they come to the workforce. With that said though, they have the same foundation as any other military firefighter (which is to say, good) and usually within a short time are up to speed and completely competant and capable members of a crew. So if you're aware of their background, know their (general) work ethic, and that they've proven themselves to be able to work in remote and often unfriendly areas--they sound like the perfect people to hire for any contract job.

So um, who cares if there is preference given? It's like trying to say that we're not being fair to the spoon because it could pick up a piece of steak just as well as a fork. Sure, it probably can, be we already know that a fork is really well-suited to the job.

[Eno821302]

I've noticed that there are a large number of openings with CSA- are there many canadians over there? How long is the rotation for? Is it one straight year of 24 on 48 off?

Thanks

[pyromike66]

There is always goingbe a decent amount of openings, for the time bieng anyway, because of the high turn - over rate. As far as I know there aren't any Canadians there. While I was there, we had Nepalese FFs, and 1 Australian (I've heard he moved on elsewhere). The schedule is always changing so it isn't 24 on, 48 off for the entire year. Contracts are for 1 year.

[maDonna]

CSA fire department is a joke. The management dosnt know how to run a department and the chief is sexist towards women. They are the laughing stock of the contracting world. The scheduling is all jacked up they lie to people when they recruit you they tell you 1 thing when you get there its a different story. They will say your gonne get tons of OT and hours but thats bullcrap. Expect to work 48 hours a week and make 2k a check. Your gonna make a lot less then they tell you. They lure you there by telling you how great it is. Dont waste your time with CSA you wont get any training done either. I worked there for almost a year and the training guys are all out for themselves they dont care about the firefighters.
If your going to go all the way overseas, go with KBR or WSI...CSA is a waste of time when you can make 2-3 times as much with KBR or WSI. KBR operates in Kuwait and you make double, you can live offbase if you work with KBR too.
If you decide you want to leave the contract early, they try to fukk you over. You have to pay them back for the ticket and some costs too. Atleast with WSI or KBR you can leave at any time and they pay your way home. CSA makes it financially tough for you to leave because they make you pay back about 4-5k if you dont like it.

[MWJSFireT4]

THIS MADONNA PERSON IS PSYCO SHE HAS MADE REPETITIVE POSTS ALL OVER FIREHOUSE!!!!! LAME if you ask me!!!

Seriously don't you have a life! Hmmm maybe your a prissy ______!


Sorry even I wouldn't spoon feed here in the USA!

[ksheets]

AWWWW, did madonna have a bad hair day?

[CSAblowsgoats]

I've noticed that there are a large number of openings with CSA- are there many canadians over there? How long is the rotation for? Is it one straight year of 24 on 48 off?

Thanks

There always be a large amount of opening with CSA. The Deputy Cheif is named Baker hes a turd he runs around telling people that if they cross his path he will get them fired. he says he knows a lot of peopel and he will make sure you never get a job ever again in a fire dept. He go to all fire station and tell people that he cant wait to get the next guy fired.

Thats the kind of peopel you deal with in the management. The management are a bunch of pindahos. He hides behind his desk all day drinking coffee and surfing the internet. He will come out at role call and bark at everyone yelling and screaming for no reason. He likes to remind people he is Deputy and he will make sure you get screwed over if he gets his chance. The management has no peopel skills hats why people dont stay long.

Theres better contracts out there CSA is definatly the worst contract of them all.

to answer your other question
I don tthink there are canadians work there
the schedule is now 24 on 72 off

check out www.dodfire.com then click on jobs thats how i hooked my new job :)

[devildog4]

CSAblowsgoats:

You are an idiot and you need to learn how to spell and put sentences together correctly.

How in the hell did you ever get a resume or application together with
your lack of education?

[CSAblowsgoats]

I just learned from my friend when I chat with him on meessenger that they are work 24 hour shifts on 48 off so its not 24 on 72 off as i say before

it must be boreing they dont get much overtime

[CSAblowsgoats]

I just learned from my friend when I chat with him on meessenger that they are work 24 hour shifts on 48 off so its not 24 on 72 off as i say before

it must be boreing they dont get much overtime

[RescueGod69]

Combat Support Associates (CSA) is the worst company to work for. The firefighters get treated like dogmeat and the cheifs are a bunch of cowards. I worked for a lot of companies and municipalities and this is by far the worst department i ever worked for. Only with CSA you have deputy cheif come to all the fire stations and try to intimidate people by telling them he has clout so you will never get a fire job again. We all know he is weak and has no connections but the fact that he goes around trying to intimidate young and impressionable firefighters is a sign of his cowardice. CSA management is cronyism at its finest.

The training department isnt concerned with getting certs the firefighters need or want. They would rather have us do there stupid target safety bullcrap then give real classes that count. The training they give is a complete waste of time cause its a bunch of online crap. Dont plan on getting any certs done with CSA cause when you get your test complete they dont have the know how to get the practicles done. Plus the training dept fudges all the packages and they get rejected half the time. This department is like a revolving door cause they piss people off so they never keep anyone.

I have never seen a dept with more chiefs than indians. You got 3 guys standing around supervising 2 people half the time. Most of the battallion cheifs sit on their asses when it comes work time. Oh its too big a deal for them to help out cause there a chief. They get 20 something bucks an hour they should be doing more work then people that are less paid. Half these BCs we got are powertrippin retards that are too old and beligarant and lack people skills.

RescueGod4life

[galebagram2u]

Combat Support Associates (CSA) is the worst company to work for. The firefighters get treated like dogmeat and the cheifs are a bunch of cowards. I worked for a lot of companies and municipalities and this is by far the worst department i ever worked for. Only with CSA you have deputy cheif come to all the fire stations and try to intimidate people by telling them he has clout so you will never get a fire job again. We all know he is weak and has no connections but the fact that he goes around trying to intimidate young and impressionable firefighters is a sign of his cowardice. CSA management is cronyism at its finest.

The training department isnt concerned with getting certs the firefighters need or want. They would rather have us do there stupid target safety bullcrap then give real classes that count. The training they give is a complete waste of time cause its a bunch of online crap. Dont plan on getting any certs done with CSA cause when you get your test complete they dont have the know how to get the practicles done. Plus the training dept fudges all the packages and they get rejected half the time. This department is like a revolving door cause they piss people off so they never keep anyone.

I have never seen a dept with more chiefs than indians. You got 3 guys standing around supervising 2 people half the time. Most of the battallion cheifs sit on their asses when it comes work time. Oh its too big a deal for them to help out cause there a chief. They get 20 something bucks an hour they should be doing more work then people that are less paid. Half these BCs we got are powertrippin retards that are too old and beligarant and lack people skills.

RescueGod4life

Rescue can you email me.... I have a couple of questions that you may be able to assist on....

galebagram@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Chief G

[Insomniac174]

How sad...

[MemphisE34a]

Salary depends on hours and OT. Just heard that the hours are going to be 24 on 48 off. Expect between 65 - 75K salary (that is including per diem and end of contract bonus).
65-75K?? That sounds great. And you get to work in Kuwait too. I don't know though, I think I will just stay here in the good ole USA and be happy with the $80,000 the fine taxpayers of Memphis were generous enough to throw my way last year. (that is including ovetime and bonus days):cool:

[pyromike66]

Good for you.

[MemphisE34a]

My point was that you can find USA jobs that pay as much or more, unless you are just wanting to be overseas in foriegn, hostile territory.

Matter of fact, we are accepting applications now.

http://cityofmemphis.org/framework.aspx?page=610

[CaptOldTimer]

My point was that you can find USA jobs that pay as much or more, unless you are just wanting to be overseas in foriegn, hostile territory.

Matter of fact, we are accepting applications now.

http://cityofmemphis.org/framework.aspx?page=610


Robert, you know that most of those that got hired and took those jobs over there, couldn't get hired in the USA. Mainly becasue of their poor work record and police record. :eek:

Let them go and and keep the better jobs open for those who can meet all the qualifications without any bad work history or drama hanging on them. :eek:

90 to 100 G's in the USA and being happy is far better than being there making nothing and taking all the bs being handing out.


John

[h20squirter]

i want to know where some of these $90-100k a year in the states jobs are at that everyone is talking about? i mean are u talking about a 20 year officer with OT? cuz maybe FL just sucks, but the best paying dept's in FL for a starting Fire/Medic are $45-50k a year.

[BSFFwife]

Capt OLDTIMER~ Poor work record or police record? Thats a new one. Im sure you must be joking.

Just wondered how much tax is taken out of that 90-100k you make. Glad to hear Virginia pays firefighters so well. Its about time somebody did. As far as the BS overseas, don't believe everything you hear. Not everyone has drama.

[MemphisE34a]

H20,

You are correct, that is the starting salary for medics around here as well.

As far as my 80K, yes I am a company officer with 12 years on. My base is $57,716.38 a year, but with bonus days we can sell, overtime, and holiday pay I made right at 80K - and no, I didn't work that much overtime. But even overtime shifts here and there would seem better than being gone EVERYDAY for a couple of years overseas. I worked many of my own vacation days, so that is 13 days of overtime working my own shift at my own house.

BSFFwife, Yes I paid taxes. You or your husband will to when that money comes back into the US unless you are able to invest it following certain guidelines. Investing is great, but I tend to spend most of my money. You can't take it with you.

Capt, To be honest, I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! lol

[BSFFwife]

Memphis~ No taxes on return to US. Tax paper to sign and fill out but it all works. A couple of my husbands friends only stayed a year. My husband will be starting his third year soon. We do invest some but we really enjoy traveling during his R&R. Im sure it is not for everyone. Im also sure the guys dont have police records. That was to funny.LOL

[pyromike66]

Good stuff here. Most of you making comments about life overseas have never been there, and base your opinions and un-educated guesses on heresy. Which is ok. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether it is factual or not. Kuwait hostile? Not any more hostile than living here in the U.S. In fact, its probably safer there than it is here in some cities. You must be getting Kuwait confused with Iraq. A lot of people who have no clue get them mixed up. Might as well think that the U.S. and Canada are the same because we are neighbors. So, most of us have police records and can't get hired anywhere here in the US? You've got to be kidding me. You do realize that contractors work FOR the military don't you? Do you really think that the military is going to let people with records have access to the bases? Most companies require a military background to even be considered. True, there are some slumy dirtbags that work there, but itsn't that the same anywhere? I gave up my position as a city firefighter just to have the oppurtunity to go work overseas. And it was well worth it. The TAX-FREE money I brought home gave me the chance to buy a home, pay cash for flight lessons, become 100% debt free, and travel to places that you only wish you could see. But that kind of work isn't for everyone.

I applaud those of you that serve your city fire departments for 15 - 20 years and promote within the ranks. You deserve the high pay. Someday I hope to be in that same position. But don't slam those of us who are working (or have worked) with the men and women who are serving our country, calling us criminals and dirtbags. We recognize an opportunity that very few will ever get to see, and act upon it. By the way, how many of you have served your country?

These forums should be for those who are interested in finding jobs overseas to get information, ask questions, and hopefully make an informed decision on whether or not they want to pursue the oppurtunity. Also for those of us who have been there, done that to offer our advice and input. It shouldn't be a place for people who have no interest in working overseas whatsoever to come on here and post comments bashing the people who are working overseas, and make statements that aren't even close to being true. Get the facts straight before posting these comments.

Have a wonderful day, and stay safe.

[bigjoe77]

If you are looking for high paying state side fire jobs you need to look over in California. If I am right Santa Clara county near San Fran is the highest paying FD in the USA. One SSgt I know got on there and started at $87K a year not including overtime or any other pay. If you look on Fire Hire you can see the monthly pay ranges around $4000K - $8000+ depending on location and certs. Now also keep it in mind that it is CA and the cost of living is sky high, but when you work 7 or 8 days a month you can afford to commute from a smaller town and live FAT. If you are a Fire/Paramedic, my friend works Fire/Med in San Fran and last year he pulled down $130K with over time. So the jobs are there but you have to be willing to relocate, pay through the nose for rent and extras and test well. I was told that for 60 jobs they had almost 60,000 applicants. Good Luck to all

[h20squirter]

Memphis,

like some others said, i applaud those who can stay around for 10, 15, 20 years at the same dept and get promoted and get that kind of pay. But for younger guys with 2-5 years on a municipal dept, or guys getting out of the military. those figures are a long ways away. That is why i chose to come overseas for a while. if i could walk in to an $80k a year fire job back home i would be there right now.

[CaptOldTimer]

Capt OLDTIMER~ Poor work record or police record? Thats a new one. Im sure you must be joking.

Just wondered how much tax is taken out of that 90-100k you make. Glad to hear Virginia pays firefighters so well. Its about time somebody did. As far as the BS overseas, don't believe everything you hear. Not everyone has drama.



Oh I paid a lot of taxes out of my salary. You can be sure of that. You make it, you pay it. I have several shelters in place so for the most I do get a nice refund or credits on other items that I have. Now that I am retired, I still get a good pension. :)

By the way, we don't normally hire any one with a poor work record, as it tends to be not being the best to do so, as those folks don't last long at firefighting either. As for a police record, no Felonies - period! As far as Misdemeanors, it depends on what the Misdemeanor was. We are very selective as most fire department should be if they aren’t.

[jst2bsy4u2]

Mike
Thanks for all the help; this is how we know who is full of bull!!! And the real hero are the individuals that desire just to help use make an informed decision.
What can you say 100% debt free is enormous in today world ,I know a lot of DOD and City FF that work 2 and 3 jobs just to get by!!!

Good Luck & take to the air when you can


Jst2bsy4u2

[firebugg911]

Madonna,


OK..... How do I put this?

I have been trying to get into the contract world for some time now. After much research I decided that I would like to work for CSA. Everyone that I spoke to that works there told me that they loved it. They all said they would renew their contract and they have no problem with the lower pay because of all of the perks. They also let me know that I may have some trouble getting a job because the last woman they hired was completely incompetent and caused a lot of trouble before she broke her contract early and left without notice. With your post being so irate and unprofessional I would believe this woman to be you. I have spoke with the training chief of CSA myself and he seemed very nice and genuinely concerned with improving the training for the firefighters and is attempting to employ more training personnel to help the firefighters get as much education as they want.

You have posted the same information about CSA several times on this forum. You have proven how unprofessional you are with your pitiful attempts of retribution. I believe your ignorant post to be a direct reflection of your attitude towards you job. Women like you expect everything handed to you and pitch a little hissy when it's not. How could you talk down towards your brothers like that, and insult your supervisors like you could do the job better? You obviously can't even stick out one year in a contract and you think you are qualified enough to voice and opinion on an officer? Poor form.
I am having a hard time getting a contract because a woman like you has made a chief regret his decision. You should be ashamed, which of course you're probably not.

I will apologize to everyone else on this list if my post seems rude. I am a very hard working qualified woman that has a hard time following the aftermath of women like this. I can understand the companies being gun-shy, but it still ends up being unfair for chicks like me that can do the job and conduct themselves in a professional manner.

Madonna (the queen herself), you should reevaluate your chosen profession. Perhaps the contract world is not your best bet.

-C-

[8CivilServant0]

Is this really a problem? People arguing about alot of stuff they really don't have any knowledge of? We're all supposed to be fighting the same fires so what's the big deal? You're working in the US and have over 10 years in, you have a nice lil salary......good for you. Why knock people who choose to go where you're not willing? And again........90% of the derogatory comments were incorrect. I've served my country and have been contracting the last 2 years, and leave for another next week.........I've chosen fight fires in a foreign land, fighting the same fires you fight in the US.


pyromike66, thanx for putting them in their places.

[penrod]

I guess this will be for pyromike, i was wondering do you live on base or off base. and if off what is the cost of living over there. please feel free to add any additional iiInfo you may Because im in the processof applying to csa and any help you could add would be greatly appreciated sir. my name is mike also ( i go by penrod or mikey) thank you sir for your time.

[pyromike66]

I guess this will be for pyromike, i was wondering do you live on base or off base. and if off what is the cost of living over there. please feel free to add any additional iiInfo you may Because im in the processof applying to csa and any help you could add would be greatly appreciated sir. my name is mike also ( i go by penrod or mikey) thank you sir for your time.

Penrod,

I thought the living conditions were excellent. Everybody lives off base, and in my case I lived at a beach resort on the Persian Gulf. Living in the mountains of Colorado all my life, it was a nice change to be living on the beach! All the different apartment complexes that CSA employees live in has their pros and cons. And where you stay depends on what camp you will be working at. The only cost of living there is what you choose to do on your off time (i.e. shopping, travelling, eating out, etc). Kuwait itself can be a little expensive at times, but its not outrageous. All other costs are provided by CSA...Housing, transportation, and they even pay a per diem rate of $35 a day. I pretty much survived the entire 2 years just living off of the FALA (per diem) only. That $35 a day adds up quickly.

Hope this helps a little. If you have any other questions you can email me at pyromike66@yahoo.com. I'm more than happy to help out.

[Eno821302]

Eh Pyro... and the rest of you as well of course.

Sounds like the CSA contract is pretty solid. I think you and I might have talked briefly about a year ago... but it may have been someone else. People go on contract generally to make money, and I know all about it working industrial here.

I think like any job, the people you work with directly can make or break the assignment- and I know this can be no more true than where I'm working right now. Sometimes, however, the "family values" per se can be blinded by the fact that people aren't always here to build those values. Money doesnt' care about values- and neither do some people in the higher paying assignments. I guess my biggest concern with going on contract is that the men and women over there are, in general, still somewhat bound together as we are in country, and not all just there watching paycheques fall into their bank account.

I've had my eye on CSA for awhile... and while it sounds really REALLY good- I guess I'm worried that I might wind up in a snake pit with a bunch of money grubbers. I am enthusiastic about your talking about how the people in charge over there are still looking at making things better- I like to think the people I work for can still teach me a thing or two... and have the desire to!

I was going to send this direct to you, but I figured maybe some others might benefit from the answer. I thank you once again for your feedback.

[firedoc58]

Does anyone know if CSA is hiring at the moment? I have been a fire/medic for 15 years but I do not have my ARFF. Will me not having my ARFF make a difference in working with CSA in Kuwait? Does anyone have good contact info for anyone in charge in CSA in Kuwait? Is the pay still expected to be over $60,000.00 per year? Being a fire/medic and haz-mat tech will this help me with CSA?

Any help will be greatful guys,

Thanks Shannon

[dgallagher70]

I was over there working for C.S.A. and never had any issues with the Chief,Deputy Chief or any of the upper management.The training is all what you put into it. D.O.D cert's are available but you must apply for them nothing just fall's into your lap.Target safety is there just to keep the training hours rolling and on shift we did training..hand's on training everyday !
There are Firefighters from all over the world there and everyone get's along just as well as we do here in the states..some good some not so good.
The Chief is not by any means sexist towards women I was the first one over there and he never treated me any different.He's a great guy and so are most people there.Housing is good also.Hell. it's free what else can you ask for ?
Like anywhere else you only get out what you put in and I would go back in a heartbeat .
But NOTHING BEATS BEING A FIREFIGHTER IN THE USA !!

look for the csa link at dod jobs or go to the csa website

[pyromike66]

D. Gallagher. How the hell are you. Good to see some familiar names on these here forums. What have you been up to? Write back.

Mike S