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NJFFSA16
08-18-2006, 05:08 AM
NEW YORK (AP) - A firefighter who saw his ex-girlfriend in a
police officer's car beat the officer so badly he suffered a brain
hemorrhage, prosecutors said Thursday.
Sean Murray, a two-year veteran of Ladder Company 140 in Queens,
was charged with assault in the beating of Ahmad Kessba on
Wednesday night, when both were off duty, District Attorney Richard
Brown said.
Kessba, 24, was dropping off Murray's former girlfriend at her
Ridgewood home when the firefighter, who had been waiting outside,
approached him and ordered him out of his car, prosecutors said.
When Kessba identified himself as a police officer and reached
for his badge, Murray, 28, yanked him out of his car, threw him to
the ground and beat and kicked him repeatedly, they said.
The terrified ex-girlfriend locked the car doors and called 911.
Murray continued to choke Kessba and bang his head against the
pavement after the officer was knocked unconscious, prosecutors
said.
"The defendant's actions were unprovoked and resulted in
serious injuries to the police officer," Brown said.
Besides the brain hemorrhage, Kessba suffered other injuries to
his head and body.
Murray, who lives in Hicksville, N.Y., had not been arraigned as
of Thursday night. The district attorney's office didn't have
information about a lawyer for him, and the firefighters' union
didn't immediately return a telephone message seeking comment.
A fire department spokesman said he wasn't authorized to speak
about Murray's case.
Murray could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) :(

jensam433
08-18-2006, 11:32 AM
"Murray, who was suspended by the FDNY, has a criminal record with convictions in New York for disorderly conduct and drunken driving and an arrest in Virginia for reckless speeding, authorities said. At least one bust came after he joined the FDNY two years ago, officials said."

Bones42
08-18-2006, 04:54 PM
Didn't we see this on Rescue Me not too long ago?

pvfire424
08-18-2006, 05:43 PM
Didn't we see this on Rescue Me not too long ago?


Life imitating art ?

pvfire424
08-18-2006, 05:56 PM
Didn't we see this on Rescue Me not too long ago?


Life imitating art ?


* post imitating post ? :p :confused: :eek:

SSTONER
08-19-2006, 02:33 AM
NEW YORK (AP) - A firefighter who saw his ex-girlfriend in a
police officer's car beat the officer so badly he suffered a brain
hemorrhage, prosecutors said Thursday.
Sean Murray, a two-year veteran of Ladder Company 140 in Queens,
was charged with assault in the beating of Ahmad Kessba on
Wednesday night, when both were off duty, District Attorney Richard
Brown said.
Kessba, 24, was dropping off Murray's former girlfriend at her
Ridgewood home when the firefighter, who had been waiting outside,
approached him and ordered him out of his car, prosecutors said.
When Kessba identified himself as a police officer and reached
for his badge, Murray, 28, yanked him out of his car, threw him to
the ground and beat and kicked him repeatedly, they said.
The terrified ex-girlfriend locked the car doors and called 911.
Murray continued to choke Kessba and bang his head against the
pavement after the officer was knocked unconscious, prosecutors
said.
"The defendant's actions were unprovoked and resulted in
serious injuries to the police officer," Brown said.
Besides the brain hemorrhage, Kessba suffered other injuries to
his head and body.
Murray, who lives in Hicksville, N.Y., had not been arraigned as
of Thursday night. The district attorney's office didn't have
information about a lawyer for him, and the firefighters' union
didn't immediately return a telephone message seeking comment.
A fire department spokesman said he wasn't authorized to speak
about Murray's case.
Murray could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) :(

I dont get where the "allegedly" part comes in? Sounds like there is no question he did it.

nyckftbl
08-19-2006, 02:38 AM
I dont get where the "allegedly" part comes in? Sounds like there is no question he did it.


Thanks Judge.... :cool:

SSTONER
08-19-2006, 06:02 AM
Thanks Judge.... :cool:


I am not the judge, but if you read the news story there was a witness - he didnt receive head trauma by falling out of a parked car.

Doesnt seem to be any question as to what happened - now its up to the judicial system to take its course.

Maybe you care to eloborate why you would get any other impression(providing its accurate)from the story?

Then again maybe you dont.

BFDNJFF
08-19-2006, 08:06 AM
I am not the judge, but if you read the news story there was a witness - he didnt receive head trauma by falling out of a parked car.

Doesnt seem to be any question as to what happened - now its up to the judicial system to take its course.

Maybe you care to eloborate why you would get any other impression(providing its accurate)from the story?

Then again maybe you dont.

I think what nyckftbl is stating is that we should not pass judgement on a fellow brother untill the court of law has. If anything you have learned in the fire service is that you don't believe everything you read in the papers.

nyckftbl
08-19-2006, 10:16 AM
I am not the judge, but if you read the news story there was a witness - he didnt receive head trauma by falling out of a parked car.

Doesnt seem to be any question as to what happened - now its up to the judicial system to take its course.

Maybe you care to eloborate why you would get any other impression(providing its accurate)from the story?

Then again maybe you dont.


I cant elaborate, because I WASNT THERE, AND NEITHER WERE YOU!

And no, I'm not defending this meathead, but whatever happened with innocent until proven guilty?

SSTONER
08-19-2006, 10:47 AM
I hear what your saying. But sometimes when it quacks and walks like a duck..................

NYSmokey
08-19-2006, 10:55 AM
The witness is always questionable. However, the FACTS don't lie. The medical evidence will be important. If a person is CONVICTED of assaulting a police officer or pleads to a deal, they should do hard time. No one should assault a police officer. I hope that the NYPD officer has a speedy recovery.

Notice I didn't attack the brother. Merely stated my opinion about the situation. The courts will settle this. The alleged assailant's family, firehouse, and the FDNY will have to deal to this for many months to come. One news outlet already dubbed this "The Battle of the Badges." :mad:

DaSharkie
08-19-2006, 11:59 AM
If the "alleged" moron is guilty, fire him, send him to jail, and give someone deserving of the position a chance.

"Should" this all be true, it sounds like this guy is a real peach, and needs to grow up and act like a man.

FFFRED
08-19-2006, 12:04 PM
Everyone knows the NY press bends the truth and sometimes just prints outright lies.

There are at least three sides to this story...inlcuding one which states the officer attacked the fireman first.

I'm not defending this guy or castigating him...I'm just willing to wait a little longer for the real facts to be discovered in a court of law.

FTM-PTB

jensam433
08-19-2006, 01:39 PM
Stalking !!!!

And if the ex-girlfriend is your daughter, niece or sister Mr. Murray doesn’t deserve the respected title “Brother”

NYSmokey
08-19-2006, 01:49 PM
Mr. Murray doesn’t deserve the respected title “Brother”

We don't know all of the facts yet. If he is convicted in court, you are 100% correct.

SSTONER
08-19-2006, 11:03 PM
The witness is always questionable. However, the FACTS don't lie. The medical evidence will be important. If a person is CONVICTED of assaulting a police officer or pleads to a deal, they should do hard time. No one should assault a police officer. I hope that the NYPD officer has a speedy recovery.

Notice I didn't attack the brother. Merely stated my opinion about the situation. The courts will settle this. The alleged assailant's family, firehouse, and the FDNY will have to deal to this for many months to come. One news outlet already dubbed this "The Battle of the Badges." :mad:

I dont think anyone has attacked him; its sad the media there has given this story a title that creates more bad blood.

NJFFSA16
08-21-2006, 02:58 AM
I dont get where the "allegedly" part comes in? Sounds like there is no question he did it.

I didn't read anything about a conviction.....did you?

Presumption of innocence...part of our judicial system.

NmFyrFytr505
08-21-2006, 03:02 AM
yeah i was thinking the same thing. you only get away with it on tv if your brother is the cop.

Bones42
08-21-2006, 10:44 AM
... or pleads to a deal, ... Anybody else really sick and tired of people pleading down to a lesser charge?

NYSmokey
08-21-2006, 07:16 PM
Anybody else really sick and tired of people pleading down to a lesser charge?

Yes, it's all who you know and who you......well you all know the rest of the saying