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Dalmatian190
05-26-2006, 07:37 PM
You know, things that make you wonder...stories 1 & 2:

Story 1:
Student suspended for sharing caffeine gum
May 26, 2006

LOWER BURRELL, Pennsylvania --Chew on this. A junior high school student was suspended for three days for sharing chewing gum because it contains caffeine, school officials said.

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Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts The girl, whose age and grade were not released, gave another student Jolt gum. The gum is "a stimulant that has no other redeeming quality," said Burrell School District Superintendent Amy Palermo.

Products acting as a stimulant are prohibited and possessing them is grounds for disciplinary action, Palermo said.

The suspension was mainly based on the girl's decision to share the gum with another student, she said.

"What if the gum had been given to a student with a heart condition? As a parent, would you want your child to be able to get that type of product?" Palermo said Thursday.

The school has soda machines, but they are not turned during school hours and drinks containing caffeine are not sold in the lunchroom.


Yet in the same nation that Caffeine can be treated with a zero tolerance, we're doing this to protect the kids...

Just up the road from me:

Putnam students protest school cuts
By JESSICA DURKIN
Norwich Bulletin


PUTNAM -- Nearly a quarter of the student body at Putnam High School walked out of class Wednesday to protest cuts to the school budget that threaten as many as eight teaching jobs.

The walkout and protests came the day after the proposed $15.3 million school budget for 2006-07 failed at referendum, 541-435. About 100 students marched to Town Hall and demanded answers from Superintendent Margo Marvin and Mayor Bob Viens.

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"I don't think it would be good for us to keep getting ripped off with the loss of teachers," said junior Nick Rybacki, 16, after the walkout.

Rybacki said he decided to join the walkout after seeing the number of students participating. He left school during a 9:30 algebra class.

Freshman Sara Jean-Louis, 15, said the students know they won't get more money, they just want to save the budget from deeper cutting. She said she hoped the protest would be a visible motivator to get more support for the next budget vote.

"We don't think enough people went out and voted to keep our school's budget," Jean-Louis said. "We need to keep the teachers we have, and we don't need larger classes -- we'll have to dumb ourselves down to our learning ability."

Superintendent Margo Marvin said she applauded the students' mass reaction to cuts, saying it showed their strong support for quality education. Marvin compared their spirit to the student protests against the Vietnam War three decades ago.

Marvin said about $200,000 has been budgeted for the anticipated utilities increases -- an amount of money that could pay four teacher salaries.

Many of the students who left school in protest Wednesday morning marched on Town Hall Wednesday night hoping to keep the Board of Finance from making additional deep cuts.

"All we want is a good education," said freshman Sheila Reyes, 15, as she made the mile walk from Jade Garden restaurant on Kennedy Drive to Town Hall.

"We're the future of this town and we want them all to realize that," said student Mercedes LaBelle, sporting a T-shirt with the message "Vote Yes" and carrying signs supporting the budget.

If voters want to keep the property tax increase to one mill, the school will need to cut another $500,000 from its budget, Marvin said. The Board of Finance added that amount in April to the originally proposed $14.8 million budget, so a cut would take the budget back to its starting point. Marvin said the Board of Education will have to determine in the next few weeks exactly what will be cut

The follow-up today after the administrators started to realize there was a bit of political backlash was they where "punishing" the students -- 1 day's detention, but on the honor system since they didn't have a list of who walked out.

Which begs the question -- Where the administrators so incompetent they couldn't stop a student walkout, and once it happened couldn't "lock down" their school, nor even make a list of who had walked out despite reports today the Superintendent, Principal, and Assistant Principal accompanied them on their demonstration...jeepers, if you can't control a walk out, I wonder what would happen if they ever had to implement their emergency plans...

Or where the Administrators allowing an illegal activity (truancy) to take place for their own political purposes.

Somehow, one wonders if you offered the students the option of organizing a protest on Saturday that they could have an even bigger turnout, how many would've complained they couldn't since that would cut into their holiday?

GeorgeWendtCFI
05-27-2006, 07:21 AM
Isn't it amazing that the girl was suspended for sharing an innocent substance like this, but she can walk into the nurse's office and be referred to a facility to have an abortion or be given birth control measures w/o parental consent?

Which begs the question -- Where the administrators so incompetent they couldn't stop a student walkout, and once it happened couldn't "lock down" their school, nor even make a list of who had walked out despite reports today the Superintendent, Principal, and Assistant Principal accompanied them on their demonstration...jeepers, if you can't control a walk out, I wonder what would happen if they ever had to implement their emergency plans...

My son and daughter were involved in a walkout at their HS last year. Not only couldn't the school stop it, they couldn't end it. The unbelievable way it ended was when the Principal (male, w/ doctorate, in his 60's) went out to the football field and told the kids, through his tears, that he was quitting (he didn't). The kids felt so bad they went back to class.

I did alot of emergency planning in schools before I retired. Some have great plans. Others have poor plans. I found a common denominator with the school adminstrations that had poor plans-a disdain for police and authority. They were 60's throwbacks. They only participated in the project once they were forced to.

GodSendRain
05-27-2006, 07:47 AM
Caffeine got me through school!

Well, I mean, that and the fact that learning really got my adrenaline pumping, but it was mostly the caffeine.

And what good are soda machines that are only on after school hours? In case the janitors get thirsty? I bet they never have to restock.

As for the walk out . . . hell yeah, I would have walked out of school in such a rage and bought a coke at the nearest gas station. That'll teach them to screw with the budget.

Marvin compared their spirit to the student protests against the Vietnam War three decades ago.

Hmmm . . . the least of your worries here would be habitual caffeine users. ;)

nmfire
05-27-2006, 07:07 PM
Gee, the only thing students in my high school ever really made a huge stink about was the administration locking all the bathrooms so students couldn't smoke in them. Problem was, it also prevented people from peeing in them.

FDNY101TRUCK
05-27-2006, 07:34 PM
Which begs the question -- Where the administrators so incompetent they couldn't stop a student walkout, and once it happened couldn't "lock down" their school, nor even make a list of who had walked out despite reports today the Superintendent, Principal, and Assistant Principal accompanied them on their demonstration...jeepers, if you can't control a walk out, I wonder what would happen if they ever had to implement their emergency plans...


Damn when there was a walkout/protest outside the school, every single student that was there got disciplined and they knew the next morning every single student that was missing from class that day. The reason they got disciplined because they were on private property ie the school...



One can of soda has about 10 teaspoons of sugar, 150 calories, 30 to 55 mg of caffeine, and is loaded with artificial food colors and sulphites. I can't think of any good reason to ever have it. The diet varieties are also problematic as they are filled with harmful artificial sweeteners like aspartame.

Studies have linked soda to osteoporosis, obesity, tooth decay and heart disease, yet the average American drinks an estimated 56 gallons of soft drinks each year. Plus, drinking all that sugar will likely suppress your appetite for healthy foods, which pave the way for nutrient deficiencies.

Soft drink consumption among children has almost doubled in the United States over the last decade, which is not surprising considering that most school hallways are lined with soda-filled vending machines.

Schools often make marketing deals with leading soft drink companies such as Coca-Cola from which they receive commissions--based on a percentage of sales at each school--and sometimes a lump-sum payment, in exchange for their students' health. School vending machines can increase the consumption of sweetened beverages by up to 50 or more cans of soda per student per year. One can of soda has about 10 teaspoons of sugar, 150 calories, 30 to 55 mg of caffeine, and is loaded with artificial food colors and sulphites. I can't think of any good reason to ever have it. The diet varieties are also problematic as they are filled with harmful artificial sweeteners like aspartame.

Dalmatian190
05-27-2006, 07:43 PM
Problem was, it also prevented people from peeing in them.

Now that's something to be pissed off about :D

A number of schools seem to "lock" the machines during the day...actually, the machines are mostly being removed in CT -- new state law only allows "healthier" drinks to be vended during the school day -- water, juices meeting certain requirements, diet soda I think is OK.

Which of course begs the question, what exactly are we teaching in Home Economics when students are paying $1.25 for a bottle of Aquafina instead of taking a gulp at the bubbler for free.

Honestly, I don't have a problem with that law -- I remember when I was in HS there was one vending machine that didn't seem to be overwhelmingly used; maybe it's the media, but they sure seem more prominent. I enjoy a diet-breaking soda once and a while, but jeepers folks there liquid candy, and parenting 101 is you don't leave the candy out all the time :) Kids have self-control issues which is why the (supposed) adults are around. And no, their not "young adults" -- their kids.

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Interesting comment from George about his experience...seems to dovetail into what's been in the media about the Putnam walk-out.