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trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 05:21 PM
This is for the short, hopefully not even past 1 page with the facts, just the facts, thank you ma'am.

I was deployed April 10, 2006. The information provided is from others that are here or from my experiences. Remember that every senior site leader is different and runs their show a little different. I have had good experiences and times when I wonder why I left the comfort of my old crew but here I am and I am planning on staying. Note that my name and affiliations are listed at the bottom of my first post. Whatever I say is mine and mine alone, others have their opinions, I respect those. I will not bad mouth or trash anyone and ask that if that is what you are here to do, please do it on the Info on Iraq thread. Thank you

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 05:32 PM
They say not to take anything you don't want to carry. A backpack full of supplies I hope to dig up and post next is all you should take, per the guys already there. Some have taken a laptop with them, claim easier to use, less selection in PX, and already loaded with the software that you want.

Thanks to FIREKEITH, here is a link to the USPS that you can get boxes from that you can pack and have shipped to you by a friend or family once you get your assignment. Some have complained that whatever they took and tried shipping ahead from Victory never got there, so consider having it shipped direct once you get your assignment and settle in.

Here is the site for shipping boxes to yourself for Priority mail. Its all free. Shipping priority is faster and saves BIG money. Ship some to yourself in States for later packages. Some Boxes have one price shipping with unlimited wieght. IF you use your own box and send priority it could cost much more. It takes about 1 to 2 weeks to get boxes to you.

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/p...s/Priority+Mail

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 05:49 PM
Submit your info to WSI either by fax or mail. One of the wonderful ladies in DC will call you and set up a time to interview with Tom Keller. There are two application packages that you will need to complete. Some have gotten the first, the actual application, before others after the interview. The second packet is your physical and medical stuff. After all is completed you will be ready to fly. They will send you a ticket just prior to deployment to Texas. you will spend one week, depending on what you need in Texas and then wheels up to Baghdad. Not direct to baghdad, but close enough. You will get your flak vest and pagst helmet in baghdad and some initial briefings. From there you will be sent to your assignment. Bunker gear will be given to you there, when it is available. No you may not bring your own A. you won't want to carry it the entire time, B. it is considered a safety risk.

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 06:08 PM
You asked for it.

2001 pennsylvania avenue, nw, Washington, DC 20006
t: 202-557-3680 f: 202-557-3660 web: http://www.wackenhut.com


Firefighter Information

Wackenhut Services, LLC. is currently accepting applications for professional fire fighters (ranks of Fire Fighter, Lieutenant, Captain, and Training Officer) for immediate employment in Iraq. Primary duty will be on secure military bases. Minimum one year contract. You must be U.S. citizen. Annual salaries starting at $90,000. Excellent benefits include medical, vision and dental, plus life insurance. Complete uniform and full turn out gear issued. You will be working and living on a US military base and will not be going out to the local communities or training local firefighters.

The approximate salaries vary by position. A Firefighter salary begins at $90,000 and salaries increase by rank. The IRS has a tax guideline that stipulates that if you work outside of the United States for 330 days out of a year then you will qualify for the $80,000 tax free credit. This figure includes plus-ups:

o Hazardous Duty pay;
o Foreign Service bonus; and
o Work Area Differential

Please let me know if you would like the salary of a particular position. You will get paid every two (2) weeks by direct deposit and the work week will consist of 12 hour shifts--7 days a week.

Food and housing in-country, on a military base, will be provided and you will have a total of three 10-day R&R’s:

o 120 days;
o 240 days; and
o at the end of the year.

For the first two R&Rs we give you an additional $860 to go towards a ticket to a destination of your choice and for the third R&R we fly you back to your point of origin (home).

You are also allotted an additional $2.56/hour to be applied to a benefits program, consisting of health, dental and vision insurance, for you and your dependents. (Approximately $443 per month).

Minimum requirements for all Positions:
DOD, IFSAC or NFPA certification at:
Fire Fighter Level I and Level II
EMT Certification or Medical First Responder Training
Hazardous Materials Technician Certification (awareness or ops is also acceptable)
Minimum 1 - 3 years fire fighting experience (career or voluntary)
Preferred Experience:
Former Military Fire Fighters
International experience
ARFF experience
Additional Requirements: Valid driver's license and a
valid passport by scheduled departure date.
Background investigation, pre-employment drug screening, and physical agility tests are conducted. Applicants will be subject to post offer physicals and respiratory use approval.
Firefighter Job Description:
The firefighters will be responsible for the delivery of the fire department emergency response services to the base assigned. Their duties will also include community [base] fire education, fire prevention inspections, fire code enforcement, facility support and pre-fire planning.
The firefighters will be responsible to insure that all of their training requirements are up to date, that they follow all of the rules, regulations and orders of the [base] fire department and that they complete all work assignments as assigned by their company officer.
Please let me know if you have any questions or would like additional information. Please email a copy of your resume to kkluzinski@wsihq.com

Certification needs to be IFSAC or PROBOARD, if you aren't sure, it probably is not. On my signature above on the first post is a link to Bucks.edu or you can go to www.mfri.org. They can help you with transfering your certs or challenging the cert. When I get more options I will List them

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 06:33 PM
Many debates follow this, some took their paperwork in and were forced to pay for xrays and EKG's others did a simple physical and were done. This may depend on Age and of course your doc. Others could not afford or would not get the shots. One option for vaccines was http://www.passporthealthusa.com/ they seem to be at quite a few locations.

Speaking of Passports. Apply for yours early. The later you wait the more it will cost to expedite. I got mine at the post office for $100. Others reported it cost more, I guess depended on location, I am just outside of Philadelphia, PA.

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 06:38 PM
A few pointers. Put your last name and last 4 #'s of your SSN on any clothing items that you want back. Laundry service here is great, but they have been known to put the wrong clothes in the wrong bag(s). Having your name and last 4 will help them return it to you.

Bring or buy an MP3 player, iPod, etc....This is especially nice for the long plane rides over and down time between arrivals at different destinations. If you don't have one and can't get one before arriving here at F-2, don't worry, they sell them here, but it will be a quiet ride over for you.

Unless you desperately NEED a pillow on your way over, don't bring one. You can buy one here. It just takes up alot of room that you can use for other things. You will be in hotel rooms that will provide one for you, then when you get here, you can get one. This goes for towels as well (I might bring 1 instead of the recommended 2 though and then buy another here).

Bring a change of clothes with you in your carry on luggage on the way over from Houston. It is a long flight, and you never know what might happen.

Be open minded. Don't have any preconceived ideas or expectations about what it is like here. Things change daily, hourly sometimes. If you are open minded and flexible, you will be fine. If you are not, you might have some problems. Don't become fixated on being sent to a certain base or site. You will be given the opportunity to REQUEST an assignment, but you will be sent wherever you are needed most. The only expectations that you should have, is that you will get paid, fed, and will be in a war zone. Things aren't that bad here. People take out of this what they put into it.

Open a savings account or CDs, and SAVE your money. Obviously we all have bills and responsibilities back home, but you need to walk away from this year with something to show for it. To many people think "I will not be able to spend money, I am going to be in Iraq for a year" WRONG!!!!! There are plenty of things to spend money on over here, and for those of you who doubt this, I have three words for you: IN-TER-NET.

Have a good time in Houston and Dubai/Sharjah. This is your last taste of the "real" world. Go to a baseball game, movie, club, etc...Kris will give you a few ideas. Above all else though, be on time, be where you are told to be, and be cooperative. The last thing you need/want is to get as far as you have and then get sent home.

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 06:42 PM
WSI FF - $90k/year +
WSI LT - $99k/year =
WSI CAPt - $109k/year +
WSI TO & A/C - $119k/year +
WSI Chief $129k/year
Going home on your first R&R.......priceless.

These figures are based on 84hrs a week with the first 40hrs being @ 1.55 x your base hourly rate. The last 44 is at your regular base rate. All employees are getting 84hrs a week, except those on R&R, End of Contract, etc....Those in the field, specifically FFs, Lts, and Capts are doing (usually) around 96 hrs a week. THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED!!!!!! I repeat, THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED!!!!! 96 hrs/week is reached by the employee working 6 - 16 hrs shifts a week with one day off. You are on the clock from 0700 to 2300, you get paid extra time for emergency calls after 2300 and before 0700. You also get paid extra time during that time span for "bunker time". As the contract reads, each employee is only guaranteed 40hrs per week. This however is NOT a reasonable or expected weekly accumulation of hours based on staffing levels. If employees were only getting 40, there would be less than 50% staffing on a daily basis, that is why all employees are getting their 84 + hours a week, and then some. This brings the staffing levels to 100% and makes you $90k/year + The FF in Kuwait that you were talking to probably works for KBR or some other contract company.

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 06:58 PM
2 mins push ups. 2 mins sit ups. 4 x 25 yd dash. 50 yd fireman's carry. There are no minimums, but he will expect to see your full blown hardest effort.

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 07:14 PM
I have been in Theatre for 17 months. Yes i signed on for a second year. I didn't do it because i like WSI but i did for the money. For all you new firefighter's comming over to the Sand Box here are some hints.

1. You don't get paid for being in Houston for the week of training.

2. You do attend classes with KBR folks and they are all not firefighter's they are all KBR contractor's and alot of them have attitude problem's since most are in Houston for over a week w/o pay. You can take a pay advance for $300.00 but it will defently come out of your first check.

3. During WMD/NBC training you will have the chance to go buy razors to shave any facial hair you have or you won't advance on.

4. There is a great place to drink across from the hotel called RIC's and the girls will take great care of you and your money. Just tell them your heading to IRAQ and that's all she wrote.

5. WSI will send you a list to bring over, just FYI don't take it all. It all gets heavy especially when you get your Flacks. You can buy it all atthe PX and Camp Liberty (old Camp Victory) has it all.

6. Once in country WSI will give you orders to send home incase your family need to do any paper work for you.

7. The flights over are long so be prepared.

8. It's not as bad as June 2004 when i first went over so it has got alot better.

9. Watch what you take because CUSTOMS esp. in IRAQ will take what they like and you have no say.

10. You can take a laptop but protect it. The sand will ruin it and carry it everywhere you go until you get to your base. There are no locks on tents but some bases here have LSA's which are small trailers that are matchboxes.

11. Make sure you mark all your clothing. The TCN's like to keep some things esp. nice clothes.

12. Take calling cards. buy them at Walmart and Sams Club since they are so much cheaper then over here.

13. Make sure you have your IFSAC certs so you wont be stuck at base camp (liberty) for a extended time.

14. Like i said it has gotton alot better since June 04. We were getting mortar's everyday. 10-18 times a day. Just keep an eye out.

15. FYI they (WSI) do take out health insurance if you elect it. and they do take out Federal Taxes and Social Security.

ANY QUESTIONS JUST ASK
Mike

trooperthorn
02-11-2006, 07:22 PM
for those of you that having been asking what to pack here you go.

Recommended Packing List for Overseas Deployment
(NO Camouflage)
Please call 202-276-9351 with any additional questions.

1. 4 pairs of BDU pants will be issued in Houston
2. 5 grey T's will be issued
3. 5 polos will be issued
4. 2 pair of Bates boots will be issued (I preferred the ones below)
5. 1 Field jacket will be issued
6. 2 job shirts will be issued
7. 2 flight suits will be issued
2 boonie hats will be issued
Bring
8. at least 8 prs socks
9. 8 prs underwear
10. 1 pr sneakers for PT
11. 2 pair shorts
12. 1 pair sweat or wind pants
13. 2 sets of civilian clothes for travel in and out of country
14. 2 towels
15. 1 wash cloth or loufa
16. Liquid soap
17. Shaving gear to last 1 month
18. Toothbrush toothpaste etc.
19. Shampoo
20. 2 Laundry bags (If you want to separate colors, if not 1 is fine)
21. Gold bond (green bottle works great)(TT exp. buy it in country it is bound to explode in your bag and leave you crap white)
22. Foot spray
23. Handkerchiefs
24. 4 regular t-shirts or FD tees to wear off duty and to workout
25. Gerber or leatherman / bucknife
26. Flashlight (just a small one will do no need for a six cell mag light)
27. Pens, Notebook
28. Wristwatch
29. Alarm clock (wind up or battery)
30. Pillow
31. Wrap around sunglasses
32. OTC cough medicine and a decongestant
33. Cold weather jacket

TT input:
Issue is contingent on supply, this is not always possible. When we in processed they were short 3 hats, that was all. NBC gear will be issued in Houston as well bringing you to two bags. Then in Baghdad you will be issued Bunkers, yes we all got them (add that correctly comes to three bags. All of which you will be responsible for carrying. For those going to Chartered bases you will carry all that have. Those that go to sites requiring armored convoys or helo's you will not be permitted to carry all of it and have to mail some of it ahead from Baghdad. Mailing is free in country, but then you are w/o until it arrives. For me, I went 1 week with only 4 sets of clothes and was loathing my Bunker gear. The guys at the BTC tried very hard to help us out, sometimes when working with the gov and anywhere in IRAQ, things are subject to change. You will here that so much you will be saying it in your sleep.

Recommended boots from those in country:
http://www.lapolicegear.com/codetabo.html

From Smokeater1:

Before someone ask again here is the link to Khaki pants from BDU. However I do suggest you look at this link and the new style tactical pants. The are identical to the 5.11 Tactical Pants and only cost $30.. vs. 5.11 Price of around $45. On my 11th month here I would strongly suggest purchasing the Tactical Style. They are much more comfortable, do not shrink and fade as fast as the BDU style, cooler in summer and warmer in these winter months in my opinion. Just some food for thought!

BDU.COM Link

http://www.bdu.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=F5220
__________________

ropholof
02-12-2006, 02:34 PM
not sure i understand this. so once you get your assignement, you have your boxes in U.S. sent direct to your base? so you don't have anything sent to Houston then they send it out to your base, right?

also, your post about customs. i am a little concerned about them taking my laptop or camera. is this a possibility?

thanks for starting this thread. very informative.

also, i posted this awhile back. wanted to know about any life/disability insurance options available? haven't heard or read anything about this. i probably wouldn't insure us either, but if there is some info regarding this that you've heard of that would be great.

i'll be in houston on march 20th so maybe we'll catch each other when your about to head out. thanks again

some info for people. galls is having a sale on there 5.11 tactical pants, nylon canvas desert for $49.
http://galls.com/style.html?assort=general_cata log&style=TR248&cat=3173

also there is a company called Exfficio. they sell light weight clothing that would be ideal for the sandbox, particularly underwear. they have briefs that aren't as sexy as the boxer briefs but are a little cheaper. nice thing about these guys is that they wash easy and dry in 2-3 hrs. probably faster being in the desert. very comfortable, wick away moistier very well.
http://www.exofficio.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid =56cfd65a-3149-4f7b-8e2b-24e9575b5a25

socks: patagonia makes an ankle sock that is high quality and also quick drying with superior wicking. its there capilene silkweight ankle sock.
http://www.patagonia.com/za/PDC?OPTION=PRODUCT&merchant_rn=7385&sku=49821&ws=false

socks for your boots:
http://www.wigwam.com/brandhome.htm
once on site, click on Ingenius link, go to products tab, then sports tab. then look up rebel crew sock. super comfortable, lined sock that wicks away moistier and super toughl.

also for towels:
http://msrgear.com/packtowl/ultralite.asp

most of this stuff you can get at an outdoor store cheaper than direct from company. i do a lot of backpacking and have found these things to be helpful, high quality gear that should work well for what we will be getting into. hope this helps some of you looking for light, funcitonal gear.






They say not to take anything you don't want to carry. A backpack full of supplies I hope to dig up and post next is all you should take, per the guys already there. Some have taken a laptop with them, claim easier to use, less selection in PX, and already loaded with the software that you want.

Thanks to FIREKEITH, here is a link to the USPS that you can get boxes from that you can pack and have shipped to you by a friend or family once you get your assignment. Some have complained that whatever they took and tried shipping ahead from Victory never got there, so consider having it shipped direct once you get your assignment and settle in.

Here is the site for shipping boxes to yourself for Priority mail. Its all free. Shipping priority is faster and saves BIG money. Ship some to yourself in States for later packages. Some Boxes have one price shipping with unlimited wieght. IF you use your own box and send priority it could cost much more. It takes about 1 to 2 weeks to get boxes to you.

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/p...s/Priority+Mail

trooperthorn
02-12-2006, 04:12 PM
I posted the names of those that I plagerized, I would recommend going to the other thread and ask those that originally posted this info direct. I posted this info here from the other link to cut down on the amount of searching others had to do to get ther info they sought, not bother those agitated by multiple questions, and keep the topic. Questions related to the info on this thread would be better answered by those that know first hand.

I have read several replies relating to overseas inspectors taking liberties with others valuables, only one was from actual members currently deployed. Others that posted were from "whisper down the lane" type posts. I have tried to sort through and keep track of who had dates, were claiming to be deployed and had valuable info that others agreed with to cut down on speculative posts. Again though I remind everyone that reads, I am not deployed and am only trying to help with this thread.

For those that read the last post only, this thread is for facts only, see info on Iraq to discuss issues and greet others that you want to keep in touch with. Thank you ROP for the links.

factsaboutiraq
02-13-2006, 02:09 PM
There is a company there at the mall in Houston where you go through NBC training that will sell you Life Insurance in blocks of 25k I believe. There is a maximum of 100-150k. It's been a while, but it seems like they can set it up to auto-deduct the premiums from your check, but I am not sure on that.
Kluzinski would be a good point of contact on that. Please verify they are still doing this...don't assume.

I tried to get Life Insurance for the times I was home on R&R or EOC and got turned down...go figure

trooperthorn
02-14-2006, 03:36 PM
Bump bump bump

trooperthorn
02-23-2006, 08:37 PM
I hope this is being helpful to all that have looked so far

trooperthorn
02-26-2006, 05:53 PM
March 20th is coming quick, with it I leave for the sandbox. Once I am in country I can better tell how much of this info is accurate. A buddy of mine just returned from 2 years in Balad and said that most of it is accurate, says you should cut the list to what you know you will need and can buy the rest once in country. I have known him for 15 yrs and trust him. But I catch from all theses guys is you just do what you feel is right, that way you can't blame anyone else. Like my father used to say, excuses are like bungholes, everyone has one, and no one wants to hear them.

cowfire
02-26-2006, 06:44 PM
So what does your buddy say we can get now and wait to get in country?

trooperthorn
02-28-2006, 06:42 PM
He was a LT, spent two years in Iraq after some time in Saudi. He cut the undergarments in half, and left the drugs and such home. He says many of the Px's have what you will need and readily available, just not worth carrying it. The gold bond, foot spray and nondaily items were picked up in country.

ropholof
03-01-2006, 08:25 PM
Hey trooper,
was just reading one of your posts. i guess i'll see you on March 20th. David here by the way. if you want shoot me an email at ropholof@mac.com

firepoppa
03-02-2006, 05:16 PM
I just did my interview with Astrid. She told me that they give life insurance to be paid to your dependents listed on your previous tax return, of 2/3 of your yearly rate, for life, if you have 2 dependents, or 50% if you have one dependent. They also provide a standard 50K policy to go to anyone you name on the policy.

gruntman
03-03-2006, 12:27 PM
The PX at Victory has all the basic items you will need. Go light on the packing since you will obtain even more issued clothing from Houston. Plan on having a loved one ship out some rubber boots for the rainy season. Since it will rain the mud looks like cake batter. But that should not be needed again till the end of the year. I hauled my laptop over with me and since I am using it for work typing up the fire inspections and such I'll write it off. The CPA I am using deals allot with Expat's his web link is http://www.palazzocpa.com

Also before you head out contact a financial planner but you have to meet them before you head out. Personal contact is required before they can help you with any plans for the income. I came from Maryland and will use one in Northern Virginia if you wish contact me off line and I'll be happy to provide his web link.

Last but not least work out while your here it's free and it helps make the time go by a lot quicker. I have started and with the exception of my week on dispatch I have done it every day like we are supposed too.

Camp Falcon

robobgs
03-03-2006, 03:54 PM
I know I asked this in the Info about Iraq thread, but if anyone has any pictures you have taken while on base and in iraq, would you mind sharing them with me? I want to see what the bases look like and stuff. I'm still riding the fence on going. I sent my resume and i have my first app. filled out but its not sent yet. Just want to make sure this is something for me.

firedad80
03-03-2006, 06:05 PM
trooper any suggestions on what type of luggage, duffle to take??

mwilliams2605
03-03-2006, 10:13 PM
You asked for it.

2001 pennsylvania avenue, nw, Washington, DC 20006
t: 202-557-3680 f: 202-557-3660 web: http://www.wackenhut.com


Firefighter Information

Wackenhut Services, LLC. is currently accepting applications for professional fire fighters (ranks of Fire Fighter, Lieutenant, Captain, and Training Officer) for immediate employment in Iraq. Primary duty will be on secure military bases. Minimum one year contract. You must be U.S. citizen. Annual salaries starting at $90,000. Excellent benefits include medical, vision and dental, plus life insurance. Complete uniform and full turn out gear issued. You will be working and living on a US military base and will not be going out to the local communities or training local firefighters.

The approximate salaries vary by position. A Firefighter salary begins at $90,000 and salaries increase by rank. The IRS has a tax guideline that stipulates that if you work outside of the United States for 330 days out of a year then you will qualify for the $80,000 tax free credit. This figure includes plus-ups:

o Hazardous Duty pay;
o Foreign Service bonus; and
o Work Area Differential

Please let me know if you would like the salary of a particular position. You will get paid every two (2) weeks by direct deposit and the work week will consist of 12 hour shifts--7 days a week.

Food and housing in-country, on a military base, will be provided and you will have a total of three 10-day R&R’s:

o 120 days;
o 240 days; and
o at the end of the year.

For the first two R&Rs we give you an additional $860 to go towards a ticket to a destination of your choice and for the third R&R we fly you back to your point of origin (home).

You are also allotted an additional $2.56/hour to be applied to a benefits program, consisting of health, dental and vision insurance, for you and your dependents. (Approximately $443 per month).

Minimum requirements for all Positions:
DOD, IFSAC or NFPA certification at:
Fire Fighter Level I and Level II
EMT Certification or Medical First Responder Training
Hazardous Materials Technician Certification (awareness or ops is also acceptable)
Minimum 1 - 3 years fire fighting experience (career or voluntary)
Preferred Experience:
Former Military Fire Fighters
International experience
ARFF experience
Additional Requirements: Valid driver's license and a
valid passport by scheduled departure date.
Background investigation, pre-employment drug screening, and physical agility tests are conducted. Applicants will be subject to post offer physicals and respiratory use approval.
Firefighter Job Description:
The firefighters will be responsible for the delivery of the fire department emergency response services to the base assigned. Their duties will also include community [base] fire education, fire prevention inspections, fire code enforcement, facility support and pre-fire planning.
The firefighters will be responsible to insure that all of their training requirements are up to date, that they follow all of the rules, regulations and orders of the [base] fire department and that they complete all work assignments as assigned by their company officer.
Please let me know if you have any questions or would like additional information. Please email a copy of your resume to kkluzinski@wsihq.com

Certification needs to be IFSAC or PROBOARD, if you aren't sure, it probably is not. On my signature above on the first post is a link to Bucks.edu or you can go to www.mfri.org. They can help you with transfering your certs or challenging the cert. When I get more options I will List them
What is the take home pay every two weeks for firefighters over there and is there any extra allowance.

trooperthorn
03-04-2006, 02:23 PM
The contract that I have says, 17.45 an hour. Many are working 96 hours the last I heard so figure take home from that. It will also depend on what you accountant can do for you.

I was told to pack my gear in a back pack, That way you can carry it easier, but try to stay away from military looking gear, It will attract some unwanted attention in foreign airports.

Sorry so slow on return emails, finishing up Fire Inspector III before I leave and have been busy with homework.

jmack318
03-05-2006, 10:36 AM
tikcuff9905 is absolutely correct about trying not to stand out. let me tell you, when you travel through the dubai airport,even if you arent wearing any "american apparrel" you will still stand out. but another word of advice, dont wear any hats inside the airport. the locals tend to get a little pissed about it. also, if you go out, go in groups. never travel alone. its safer!!! remember, the u.a.e. is an ally, but they still dont like americans.

RESKYOUMAN
03-06-2006, 11:51 AM
Here are some pics from the first time I was there in 04. I am going back on the 20th

ropholof
03-06-2006, 01:02 PM
question about paperwork. seems like we need to bring copies of everything we've already provided again and again. is this normal ops for this kind of stuff?
Also does anyone know if your copy of your EMT-D cert. can stand in for your CPR card or do they want an American Heart Assco. card? this was listed as one of the copies to provide in Houston.

robobgs
03-06-2006, 10:12 PM
How is the interaction between GI's and firefighters? Are we allowed to interact with them? Do they snub us? How is the security at the airports we land at? Who picks us up from the airport? Sorry if these questions are dumb but it is vital for me to know for my decision making.

robobgs
03-07-2006, 11:15 AM
Yea, that helped out a lot. Thanks. I'm pretty sure I'm going now so I am going to send my app. out this week. Thanks to everybody who has answered my questions!!

ropholof
03-07-2006, 07:02 PM
at what point do you know where you'll be stationed at? and once you arrive in BIAP and meet the KBR peeps, do they send you off by ground or air transport?

how long do you stay in Dubia, does everyone fly into dubia first than onto BIAP or is it a crapshoot?

whats training like? guessing it has a lot to do with the crew your with. does the military set up our SOG's or up to company/base officer?

march 20th is coming up fast!!!!!

ropholof
03-07-2006, 07:05 PM
thanks Tikcuf,

my mistake on the CPR thing. i must have been seeing things when looking through my stuff. hope that didn't screw anyone up. as for the rest, made at least 5 copies of everything they could possibly want from me.
thanks again

waynejorgensen
03-07-2006, 10:57 PM
at what point do you know where you'll be stationed at? and once you arrive in BIAP and meet the KBR peeps, do they send you off by ground or air transport?

how long do you stay in Dubia, does everyone fly into dubia first than onto BIAP or is it a crapshoot?

whats training like? guessing it has a lot to do with the crew your with. does the military set up our SOG's or up to company/base officer?

march 20th is coming up fast!!!!!

1) they'll let you know when they know. based off of staffing at the time.
2) KBR picks you up at the airport and brings you to the compound
3) Dubai can be from 2 days to 12 hrs or up to 7 days....
4) training? I'll let you know some time after tomorrow...but be prepared to work.....

ropholof
03-07-2006, 11:40 PM
1) they'll let you know when they know. based off of staffing at the time.
2) KBR picks you up at the airport and brings you to the compound
3) Dubai can be from 2 days to 12 hrs or up to 7 days....
4) training? I'll let you know some time after tomorrow...but be prepared to work.....


sounds good to me!
thanks

robobgs
03-08-2006, 11:37 AM
How often do you train and will there be any certification classes? One of the reasons, among others, of why I'm signing up is for the training. Is the training worth it? If this is something that cannot be said "on air" email me at rob_o_bgs@yahoo.com.

RESKYOUMAN
03-08-2006, 11:31 PM
Well gentlemen I am officially in the March 20th group, Sent all packages back to WSI and will be getting plane tickets in a few days. I am sure I will be with alot of great people, so shoot back to let me know who is all in this group. Plus if anybody has any questions about ops over there let me know I was there in 04 with USAF.

Thanks,
Doug

turnout733
03-09-2006, 09:18 AM
Who has the bigger salary, the WSI guys or KBR? I was just curious. I'm sure theres not much difference.

waynejorgensen
03-09-2006, 02:02 PM
How often do you train and will there be any certification classes? One of the reasons, among others, of why I'm signing up is for the training. Is the training worth it? If this is something that cannot be said "on air" email me at rob_o_bgs@yahoo.com.


I'll tell you like I was told - we aren't guaranteed anything other than 40 hrs a week......that include NO classes....but if you WORK...and stand out (in a good way) then you'll stand a chance to go to classes.

Not trying to bust your stones...but those words were spoken to my group by some "upper management types" before I left baghdad....

ropholof
03-09-2006, 04:56 PM
hey reskyouman,

see you march 20th! David here by the way.


Well gentlemen I am officially in the March 20th group, Sent all packages back to WSI and will be getting plane tickets in a few days. I am sure I will be with alot of great people, so shoot back to let me know who is all in this group. Plus if anybody has any questions about ops over there let me know I was there in 04 with USAF.

Thanks,
Doug

RESKYOUMAN
03-09-2006, 05:09 PM
Where ya from Ropholof, ever been before, any military exp...

fireinspect0924
03-11-2006, 03:13 PM
Well gentlemen I am officially in the March 20th group, Sent all packages back to WSI and will be getting plane tickets in a few days. I am sure I will be with alot of great people, so shoot back to let me know who is all in this group. Plus if anybody has any questions about ops over there let me know I was there in 04 with USAF.

Thanks,
Doug
hey whats your email??

RESKYOUMAN
03-11-2006, 06:45 PM
dasgps@adelphia.net

h20squirter
03-14-2006, 10:34 AM
Hey all. going thru the hiring process right now to go to iraq with WSI. wondering about items that you can or would bring or have shipped to you. laptop? dvds? books? stuff like that.

ropholof
03-14-2006, 07:30 PM
hey man,
no never been to middle east and no military, but looking forward to the experience. just waiting for my tickets to come this week and hope to get all my "ducks in a row" before we head out. see you guys on monday.

david

RESKYOUMAN
03-14-2006, 11:27 PM
Hey Dave,

Did WSI say when you are supposed to get Tickets, I am also waiting for mine.

ropholof
03-15-2006, 12:40 AM
hey resk,
well not sure. i was thinking i would have gotten them on monday. they orig. had me scheduled to leave on the 6th and they sent me that ticket the monday before. i guess if i don't get them by tomorrow, then i will give them a ring late tomorrow of first thing thursday morning. where you flying from?

RESKYOUMAN
03-15-2006, 12:27 PM
I am leaving from Cleveland

txtruckie2
03-15-2006, 03:43 PM
Hey guys, Im supposed to be going to Houston on April 10. I have had my phone interview and waiting on a second packet. It has been about two weeks and am getting anxious since it has not come in yet. Does it take a while for the packet to get here or ?... Also, just because you go to houston, does that mean you are going as long as you pass your physical and other things? Thanks for any replys.

-Ryan-
Ft. Worth, TX

txtruckie2
03-15-2006, 06:41 PM
Sounds good, yeah I heard the physical wasnt too tough... Ill give them a call and find out what the hold up is. Ive also been trying to get my packing list together and from what ive read, kris takes you shopping while in houston for additional equip?

fireinspect0924
03-15-2006, 08:27 PM
hey resk,
well not sure. i was thinking i would have gotten them on monday. they orig. had me scheduled to leave on the 6th and they sent me that ticket the monday before. i guess if i don't get them by tomorrow, then i will give them a ring late tomorrow of first thing thursday morning. where you flying from?
I got mine today.

RESKYOUMAN
03-15-2006, 09:13 PM
Got Mine today as well, but wrong Departure Airport, I live in Madison OH, a suburb of Cleveland. They booked my flight departing Madison WI so now I have to wait for adjusted tickets to arrive.

ropholof
03-15-2006, 11:28 PM
got mine as well. see
you in houston!

ff120medic
03-15-2006, 11:41 PM
Looks like I'm leaving in the April 17th group. I had a knee injury recently, will still be able to go on time, just a little weak in the knee. Anyone else going at the same time e-mail at ff120medic@netscape.com

txtruckie2
03-16-2006, 09:58 AM
I know this is off subject, but is it our responsibility to take care of all of our shots and immunizations, or do they offer them in houston?

fireinspect0924
03-16-2006, 11:51 AM
I know this is off subject, but is it our responsibility to take care of all of our shots and immunizations, or do they offer them in houston?
From my understanding you have to take care of all of them before you get there. They send you a sheet with the ones you have to get and you are suppose to be able to get them at the health dept. or your doc's office. You have to make sure though its on that yellow shot record card.

txtruckie2
03-16-2006, 02:03 PM
Awesome, sounds good. Thanks for the help.

txtruckie2
03-17-2006, 11:23 AM
You hear all the horror stories from guys that have done their time in Iraq and come back saying that there is a lack of bunker gear. I have noticed that the stories on this subject are a year or more old... Does this mean the problem has been fixed? Are there still issues with gear? If so, would it be a good decision to bring your own?

waynejorgensen
03-17-2006, 12:17 PM
You hear all the horror stories from guys that have done their time in Iraq and come back saying that there is a lack of bunker gear. I have noticed that the stories on this subject are a year or more old... Does this mean the problem has been fixed? Are there still issues with gear? If so, would it be a good decision to bring your own?


For the most part, the problem is fixed. I have 2 sets of gear (ARFF and structural). Gear gets issued in baghdad. SOME stations have gear there. You MIGHT have problems with certain sizes of gear if they're popular. They try to order, but when it takes MONTHS for it to get there, they have no control over it. But yes, most people are getting issued NEW gear.....

txtruckie2
03-18-2006, 12:28 PM
Thanks... I figured that it wasnt much of an issue anymore, but thought I would ask just in case.

h20squirter
03-20-2006, 12:14 PM
hey all, overnighting my first app by this friday, was wondering about how long the process should take after that point, really anxious about getting outta here, my dept is kinda coming apart at the seems and things are getting bad quickly, so the sooner the better. as always any help is much appreciated.

ff120medic
03-20-2006, 12:49 PM
Just got medically released today, from previous knee surgery. Will be leaving for Houston on April 17th. Does anyone know if every base has a place to workout in Iraq, still need some stregthening in my leg. Thanks, Jon

fireinspect0924
03-20-2006, 01:17 PM
hey all, overnighting my first app by this friday, was wondering about how long the process should take after that point, really anxious about getting outta here, my dept is kinda coming apart at the seems and things are getting bad quickly, so the sooner the better. as always any help is much appreciated.
From the time I had my first app put in to the time I left was about a month. The big thing is make sure that you already have your passport cause they will base your leave date on weither or not you have it.

h20squirter
03-20-2006, 01:34 PM
that is awesome to hear, i have had a passport for a while now so that hurdle is already cleared. I guess the only holdups i have now is my ProBoard Cert which should be here by thursday-friday, and then my physical. so hopefully in about 4-6 weeks i will be leaving on a jet plane, sorry i know im a dork.

ff120medic
03-20-2006, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the info, I'm getting ready to complete my physical on wednesday, WSI will have it on friday. Looking to leave for Houston on the 17th of April. Lots to due still, shots, buying somethings, basic stuff, will hold off on buying most of the stuff until i get to Houston. Thanks, Jon.

SwiftFire
03-22-2006, 01:39 AM
As far as gear, there is plenty of it in Baghdad now, of all shapes and sizes. Unless you are grossly obese, you should be ok.

As far as working out being mandatory, it says it is somewhere, but there are plenty of people who I dont think have even seen the inside of a gym. Rumor is that there will be a monthly PT evaluation eventually.

txtruckie2
03-22-2006, 11:14 AM
First of all... I think everyone should be working out on their own. And if not, I dont see any problem with having manditory pt. I know for me, I would want full confidence in the guy next to me that he could pull me out if need be... and he should have the same confidence in me. Just my opinion...

h20squirter
03-24-2006, 06:27 PM
well i overnighted out my application out yesterday, so they should have recieved it by 10:30 this morning. hope everything goes quickly, would like to get outta here asap.

txtruckie2
03-26-2006, 02:49 PM
Oh I know... Just throwin my two cents in.

SwiftFire
03-27-2006, 01:30 AM
First of all... I think everyone should be working out on their own. And if not, I dont see any problem with having manditory pt. I know for me, I would want full confidence in the guy next to me that he could pull me out if need be... and he should have the same confidence in me. Just my opinion...



My thoughts exactly.

txtruckie2
03-27-2006, 04:50 PM
I finally got all my paperwork in... Now just waiting on the plane tickets.

rescuetech1
04-06-2006, 03:03 AM
i have a wheels up date to houston of may 15 th. anyone else with the same date. would love to hear from ya.

bigflamer
04-10-2006, 12:39 AM
This thread is great! I just want to say thanks to everybody for taking the time to answer all of the questions. I have some more questions that I was hoping to get answered.

1.) Are the claimed tax advanteges true or are they overhyped? I'm just wondering how much a FF could hope to actually make there. I'm looking to do this for alot of personal reasons, however, my wife is agreeing to this for the money. If FF's get the **** taxed out of them, and if I don't make a considerable amount more than what I would make here, then she might not be on board. I would need to walk away from this with a bunch of bills paid off ya know.

2.) How much gear are you required to purchase on your own? I'm reading through the threads and it appears that alot of folks have had to purchase alot of gear on their own. I've also read that WSI will issue some gear in Houston.

3.) I've also read somewhere on these forums that getting all of your shots, immunizations, etc., can cost upward of $900 or more. That's alot of money, I'm just wondering if this is close to true.

I guess that's all of the questions for now. I'm sure I'll think of some more later. I have to challenge the tests to get my IFSAC certs and I can't do that until the weekend of June 25/26. In addition, my chief wants me to wait until after July due to overtime issues, contract negotiations, etc. Overral my chief is very supportive of me doing this, it's actually my local that's giving me all the grief. So I actually have alot of time to work out kinks, drop some weight, get tax stuff in order, get the reight certs, etc.

Thanks again for all the help!

ranahan
04-10-2006, 01:56 PM
This thread is great! I just want to say thanks to everybody for taking the time to answer all of the questions. I have some more questions that I was hoping to get answered.

1.) Are the claimed tax advanteges true or are they overhyped? I'm just wondering how much a FF could hope to actually make there. I'm looking to do this for alot of personal reasons, however, my wife is agreeing to this for the money. If FF's get the **** taxed out of them, and if I don't make a considerable amount more than what I would make here, then she might not be on board. I would need to walk away from this with a bunch of bills paid off ya know.

2.) How much gear are you required to purchase on your own? I'm reading through the threads and it appears that alot of folks have had to purchase alot of gear on their own. I've also read that WSI will issue some gear in Houston.

3.) I've also read somewhere on these forums that getting all of your shots, immunizations, etc., can cost upward of $900 or more. That's alot of money, I'm just wondering if this is close to true.

I guess that's all of the questions for now. I'm sure I'll think of some more later. I have to challenge the tests to get my IFSAC certs and I can't do that until the weekend of June 25/26. In addition, my chief wants me to wait until after July due to overtime issues, contract negotiations, etc. Overral my chief is very supportive of me doing this, it's actually my local that's giving me all the grief. So I actually have alot of time to work out kinks, drop some weight, get tax stuff in order, get the reight certs, etc.

Thanks again for all the help!

I won't swear that every tax benefit you've heard rumors of is true, amigo, but I know for a fact that the one the company tells you about is the real deal. Simply put, if you stay out of the US for over 330 days in a 365-day period, the first $80,000 of your income will not be taxed.

The equipment situation has changed a lot since I went wheels-up in early May 2005, so I don't have specific information for you on this one. When we came through, we did have to buy a lot of our uniform wear, but this has definitely improved since those days. Do they still want you to buy at least a few items? That's something you should ask the WSI staff back in TX or DC.

As for the immunizations and other medical matters, yes, for some folks they were rather expensive. I was fortunate to have a friendly medical clinic available back home, and I only paid about $35 for the entire set of shots, blood-draws and exam time. Everyone's not that lucky, of course. The good news is that you can file for a reimbursement for that expense. Just be sure to keep all of your receipts, and make sure that the receipts clearly state what you had done.

krawllins07
04-14-2006, 05:57 PM
For those of you who are already over there I was wondering, what is the average work day like. Are you considered always at work, or do you have times where unless something just shy of the world ending you don't have to worry about it? I read in one of the earlier posts that the chances of getting further certifications probably aren't that good, but what about other training? Also, what about CEU's for the EMS certifications? I'm going to try and get mine finished before I go, but just in case I decide to spend a little extra time over there it would be good to know.

Also, I am a female considering going over there. So, for those of you over there, anything, just the basics, I should know? Like, culturally or anything.

Thanks,
K

ranahan
04-14-2006, 06:32 PM
For those of you who are already over there I was wondering, what is the average work day like. Are you considered always at work, or do you have times where unless something just shy of the world ending you don't have to worry about it? I read in one of the earlier posts that the chances of getting further certifications probably aren't that good, but what about other training? Also, what about CEU's for the EMS certifications? I'm going to try and get mine finished before I go, but just in case I decide to spend a little extra time over there it would be good to know.

Also, I am a female considering going over there. So, for those of you over there, anything, just the basics, I should know? Like, culturally or anything.

Thanks,
K

As far as I know, right now every base has their people working six to seven days a week, depending on the manning status at each. On your days off you can be subject to recall, at the discretion of the senior site leader. It's not like there's really much of anywhere to go or anything to do, so if you have a day off it doesn't differ that much from your days on the job, except you don't have to wear uniform garb or move around as part of a crew.

Actually, the opportunities for training and new certifications have improved dramatically since I got in-country. I know a lot of folks who never got offered a single class; I'm walking away from here with at least three new certifications (and I'm awaiting results on a fourth). If you head over here and prove your worth to your leadership day after day, I think there's a good chance you'll get rewarded with opportunities to learn and grow.

EMS is a sensitive subject over here. No matter what level you're certified at, you'll be operating at a first-responder level. There is a certain amount of medical response training included in the mandated monthly training schedules that come down from HQ; some bases go beyond that, and some scrape by at the minimums, but I haven't heard of anyone getting CE credit for any of their med-related training. Most of the folks I know go online for CEUs or catch up on CE when they go on R&R.

I don't think that you, as a firefighter who's female, have anything to worry about with coming over here. Since it's extremely rare that we have direct contact with the Iraqi nationals (except those that work on bases) I don't really see the need for any real concern. Of course, common sense is useful; it wouldn't be a good idea, for instance, to fly into BIAP wearing a short skirt.

ff120medic
04-15-2006, 08:52 PM
Thanks for all the help, words of wisdom, and advise. I leaving for Houston on Monday April 17th. Looking forward to meeting new people, a experience of a life time, and a interesting time. For those of you there good luck, and those waiting to go, look forward to seeing there,
Thanks, Jon

cowfire
04-20-2006, 12:02 AM
Well I have been in country for a month now and it is going GREAT! PPE is all issued in victory(Everyone in my group and after that has gotten there ppe.) My opinion on the shopping list and from others now that are coming in DONT buy that stuff you are waisting your $$! In houston you are gonna get 5 bdus,5works shirts 2 coveralls, 2boots and a bunch more stuff. Then when you get into victory they will issue you more gear if you want. I picked up more shirts. You are gonna run into your disgruntle ff's, dont listen to them!! This place is easy to work at, I have a bunch of good officers and ff's here and yes there is bull**** but your gonna have that anywhere you go. I can easily do a few years doing this!!

What else, where I am at they have 2 gyms,YES we do work out. It is mandatory to work out but they dont enforce it! Trust me what else are you gonna do?

Anyone have anymore questions just ask?
Josh
joshmahnke@msn.com

trooperthorn
04-28-2006, 07:55 AM
I finally deployed April 10th. I am currently assigned to Tall Afar. I updated the lists as I remembered, if someone sees changes please let me know. The guys at station 2 Tall Afar have bought into Internet for our hooches, others are not so lucky. We have conex (those shipping boxes used for overseas shipping) as hooches, some have stations that they live in and a few unfortunate have tents and one I know of is a tent on the flight line for those early wakeup calls. There are every type of firefighter here, just like back home. There are the 2/20's (2 yrs on the job act like they have 20), those that feel they have more rights or knowledge than others, and of curse you have those that should never have held a hose let alone survived this long in life. On the other hand you have those that have knowledge and great experience, some come from some of the busiest fire stations in America and know what fire looks like, and you will take away from here whatever you make it out to be. You can hate your officers, look bad or make your crew look bad, or shine and do your job and come home with the dough to give your girl the greatest gift any girl has seen(except for the girls of those that stay 2yrs). I hate the phrae but it fits way too often, Chicken or Beef (those are your choices on the flight home.) With pride, I am here to make money, get a little more experience, see new things, and in the end bragging rights.

trooperthorn
04-28-2006, 07:55 AM
I finally deployed April 10th. I am currently assigned to Tall Afar. I updated the lists as I remembered, if someone sees changes please let me know. The guys at station 2 Tall Afar have bought into Internet for our hooches, others are not so lucky. We have conex (those shipping boxes used for overseas shipping) as hooches, some have stations that they live in and a few unfortunate have tents and one I know of is a tent on the flight line for those early wakeup calls. There are every type of firefighter here, just like back home. There are the 2/20's (2 yrs on the job, act like they have 20), those that feel they have more rights or knowledge than others, and of course you have those that should never have held a hose let alone survived this long in life. On the other hand you have those that have knowledge and great experience, some come from some of the busiest fire stations in America and know what fire looks like, and you will take away from here whatever you make it out to be. You can hate your officers, look bad or make your crew look bad, or shine and do your job and come home with the dough to give your girl the greatest gift any girl has seen(except for the girls of those that stay 2yrs). I hate the phrae but it fits way too often, Chicken or Beef (those are your choices on the flight home.) With pride, I am here to make money, get a little more experience, see new things, and in the end bragging rights.

muellerjja
05-10-2006, 01:04 PM
does anyone know if you are prior military do you still need to go through WMD / NBC training. I thought I was done with that in boot camp.

also, I am in the Naval Reserves. is anyone in the reserves and was able to get the leave of absence to go to Iraq as a fire fighter?

bessire48
05-10-2006, 09:37 PM
Ok I Have Started The Application Process, Waiting On A Phone Call This Seems To Be The Right Thing For Me. I Was A Bit Apprehensive About Doing This But Now I'm Sure Thanks To All Of You Guys. The Questions I Have Right Now Are How Does The Food Situation Work? And Does Every Base Have A

-brian

bullwinkle35
05-11-2006, 04:01 AM
why oh why do you make it soooo easy?
more housten questions
more med questions
well here goes first of all is there anyone from north or south carolina NOT coming to iraq?
what are the junior high schoolers gonna do about the prom?
who would call themselves big flamer??
i know you ladies are too intimidated to read all those pages in the other posts to get solid information so lets all ask ranahan everything.
maybe he read them i dunno
in another stroke of genius the firegods at baghdad just sent out a new inventory forrm to replace the one they sent..................yesterda y.
word was also passed by (opsec) that WSI wont be buying any more vehicles for 2 to 3 years
hell they never bought any replacement parts for the trucks we have now so this move is another smooth idea approved at the highest levels
we just had bunkertime here for the fourth time in a few days and im not tellin you whats that means!
SARCASTIC OBSERVER OUT!

Rescue241
05-11-2006, 01:04 PM
Hey i see you are stiring up the pot again ! :cool:

cowfire
05-12-2006, 12:02 AM
I am in the air force reserves and my base gave me a leave of absence. I am up at in iraq with a retired air force cheif and he was telling me I still can work on my cdcs while I am here, so that works out for me.Yes you will still have to go through nbc training, it is a annual deal.

bessire48
05-12-2006, 12:17 AM
ok when i go should i check my duffel bag or carry on both the duffel and backpack

Rescue241
05-12-2006, 02:06 AM
You wouldn't happend to be at station 1 would ya? :rolleyes:

muellerjja
05-12-2006, 10:52 PM
thanks for the info. and oh well. nbc training wont be that bad. I am hoping to leave in june, july time frame but I probably wont be able to go until Aug. I cant wait to go. from what i hear it sounds like fun. as long as i can continue my training.

dmboersig
05-13-2006, 04:12 PM
I waiting on my plane ticket now supposed to be going on the 22 of this month. I wish it would just hurry. Between my girl friend and freind telling me not to go, they just don't understand. I cant wait did anyone else get stressed out makeing sure that everything was taken care back hear in the state like money, bill.

bessire48
05-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Ok I Have Asked This Question Before So Bare With Me I Need To Know What Size Duffel Bag To Buy, Ie; 35"x15" ; 42"x24" Ect...

h20squirter
05-17-2006, 10:52 PM
as far as i could tell they don't give a ****. as long as it isn't over 70 lbs. and it's a good idea to bring two. cuz your gonna get a LOT of uniforms here in houston.

bessire48
05-20-2006, 09:55 PM
well i live in houston, and what i really want to know is can i check my duffel bag, will i carry on my NBC gear, is it in its own bag or will i have to stow it in my duffel. what kind of physical and what vaccinations do i need? i may seem dense for asking but this is what concerns me the most at this point. i do thank whom ever addresses my concern in this post

firepoppa
05-21-2006, 03:39 PM
You are allowed two checked bags @ 50lbs, plus one extra (nbc bag). If you think you can live without it for a while, don't take it! You will get the physical and vaccination info in your second packet. well i live in houston, and what i really want to know is can i check my duffel bag, will i carry on my NBC gear, is it in its own bag or will i have to stow it in my duffel. what kind of physical and what vaccinations do i need? i may seem dense for asking but this is what concerns me the most at this point. i do thank whom ever addresses my concern in this post

bessire48
05-21-2006, 04:22 PM
excelent, thank you

Marine777
06-24-2006, 05:57 PM
I am a Female firefighter as a civilian before the Marine Corp. Three point 5 yrs ago I joined the Marine Corp! I currently have 6 more months left. I am about to start this process. I was stationed at TQ for 11.5 months and have many friends there still on TQ Fire . I returned here to NC in Jan. Any extra tips on where and what bases females end up with. I have all my certifications printed from the state of Michigan but not quite sure what IfSAC certs are??

gunnyv
06-24-2006, 07:49 PM
Marine 777,
Welcome to the forums Devildog. I am a Reserve 7051 from Michigan, as well as a career civilian firefighter. Your Michigan FF certs mean nothing to WSI. IFSAC is an organization that accredits firefighter training, and Michigan is not a member. You will have to go to an IFSAC accredited academy and challenge the FF I and II and Hazmat Ops to get the correct certs. I took mine at the Bucks County academy in PA. There are many others on this thread who have done it and have explained the process in earlier posts. NC is also an IFSAC state, you may want to look into getting it done while you're still on active duty. If I remember correctly, Coastal Carolina Community College gives free fire and EMT classes for active duty military.

muellerjja,
I know of at least 6 Marine reservists who have gotten leaves to go to Iraq with WSI, as well as others who have gone with Blackwater and Wolfpack. Basically you have to get command approval and tack an extra year onto the end of your contract. Check with your unit career planner/retention specialist/or whatever you squids call them. :D

angfireman
06-24-2006, 08:04 PM
marine 777 & gunnyv -

It surprises me that the Marine Corps is not into the DoD cert program. I remember a few years ago when the Navy was the same way.

Marine 777, just like gunnyv has stated check with a few IFSAC approved colleges/schools to get your certs.

SmokeEater1
06-24-2006, 08:38 PM
As far as bases with Females we currently have females at Camp Victory/Liberty, Camp Taji, Al Asad Air Base, and Camp Speicher. Hope this helps if you have anyfurther questions fire them off. Also FYI if your not familiar with the thread Info on Iraq you should check it out.. Most of the necessary information regarding employment with WSI is discussed in that thread, as well as duty here in the desert.

gunnyv
06-24-2006, 10:19 PM
marine 777 & gunnyv -

It surprises me that the Marine Corps is not into the DoD cert program. I remember a few years ago when the Navy was the same way.


The Corps is on board with the cert program-the problems are with some of us in non-IFSAC states getting credit for training recieved outside of military schooling. For example, I lat moved and, with 10 years as a career FF, did not want to spend 3 months at Goodfellow. Since my training was through a non-IFSAC entity, I had to challenge my way out somewhere else.

The Corps is still behind on the Fire Officer and higher level certs, but we're working on it.

bm4455
06-28-2006, 04:22 AM
smokeeater 1 just to let you know we currently have no females at victory/liberty the last one left in march we have a few guys that act like females but thats it did you here about our new guy dropping in over here

SmokeEater1
06-29-2006, 07:38 AM
smokeeater 1 just to let you know we currently have no females at victory/liberty the last one left in march we have a few guys that act like females but thats it did you here about our new guy dropping in over here

Ok so there is no females currently at Victory/Liberty... actually I was refering to our HQ/HR divisions. But if I am not mistaken Victory has been set up for female accomodations correct?

Also I do know bout the NUBNG ummm new guy falling in. LOL :D

Marine777
07-18-2006, 10:53 AM
Hey That Is Some Important Info ..you All Have Been A Huge Help... It Only Took Me A Month Or So To Get Back To Reading Your Replies. So Sad I Waited So Long..i've Got To Get Moving On These Classes And No Way In Heck Do I Want To Extend With The Usmc! It Has Been Real But Not Fun!!

Marine777
07-18-2006, 03:18 PM
I Called The Coastal Carolina College Here In Jacksonville And The Coarses Are Not Free To Active Duty Marine Corp. They Are Continuing Ed Class And Not Covered By My Tuition Assistance. Does Anyone Know For Sure If My CertificateS From The State Of Michigan Of FFI & FF II Can Be Used At All? A Direct Contact To Someone At Wsi Human Resource Dept?

FireM8
09-22-2007, 05:47 AM
Is there an age requirement for employment with WSI? or just as long as you have your certs you're good?

firezapper
10-29-2007, 03:35 AM
Gotta keep the good stuff up high.

h20squirter
10-29-2007, 09:02 AM
Is there an age requirement for employment with WSI? or just as long as you have your certs you're good?


you have to have a minimum of 3 years of experience. no set age requirement.

gruntman
10-30-2007, 03:07 PM
you have to have a minimum of 3 years of experience. no set age requirement.


Except former Victory WSI ff's from Southern Maryland :-) Who were noted as being sleeping in the dispatch office.

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12-14-2007, 05:58 PM
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NEOMike
01-19-2008, 12:22 AM
I am looking to possibly get into firefighting in Iraq, I have been an explorer/cadet and am now a NFPA FF2 Cert, NREMT Basic Cert, and in 3 months finished with medic school... I've been giving Iraq firefighting some thought instead of nursing school, does anyone know if they hire people w/ experience like mine. Also are the certifications they require different from what I have? Thanks in advance for the help and stay safe boys.