Chicago Fire Department circa 1900's [Archive] - Firehouse Forums

superchef

03-02-2005, 12:02 PM

The last fire horses of Company 11, standing harnessed to a fire fighting wagon on Austin Avenue]. (Chicago Daily News, 1923).

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by superchef
Fire Insurance Patrol, firemen sitting in a gasoline powered fire engine from the Chicago Daily News 1906.

Cheffie,

Hey, That is me on the right rear of the rig!!!!!

Good picture, where did you find this one and I would guess there are others!

:D ;)

superchef

03-02-2005, 12:24 PM

the station mascots (Chicago Daily News, 1928)

superchef

03-02-2005, 12:26 PM

Hey, That is me on the right rear of the rig!!!!!

:D Thought that guy looked a wee bit familiar.

MalahatTwo7

03-02-2005, 12:28 PM

KKUUULLL SHOTS! However I noticed (and its not your fault cuz you didnt scan them) that the writing is backwards, which likely means that the photo negatives were published from the wrong side.

But great photos all the same. :D

SPIPER

03-02-2005, 12:39 PM

Cool pics Cheffie

superchef

03-02-2005, 12:42 PM

Firefighters in front of their new station (Chicago daily News, 1928)

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by MalahatTwo7
KKUUULLL SHOTS! However I noticed (and its not your fault cuz you didnt scan them) that the writing is backwards, which likely means that the photo negatives were published from the wrong side.

But great photos all the same. :D

I thought that as well, BUT when I looked closer, the driver is on the right side of the seat on that wagon! That is where the driver is supposed to be. Unless Chicago had the driver on the left for some unknown reason.

Why the writing is reversed is unknown.

The picture with me on the right rear was in another life of mine. :-)

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by superchef
Firefighters in front of their new station (Chicago daily News, 1928)

Which Engine and Truck Co's?????? I see a Battalion buggy too!

Flochief

03-02-2005, 01:05 PM

I will be going to Chicago the first week of April. Does Chicago have a fire museum or any thing like that. This is my first trip to the windy city. I will be there from Sunday to Thusday at a convention at McCormick Place. any info would be appreciated. like resturants etc.

superchef

03-02-2005, 01:26 PM

Firefighters operating water hoses on the deck of the fireboat the Graeme Stewart (Chicago daily News, 1909)

superchef

03-02-2005, 01:28 PM

Which Engine and Truck Co's??????

It did not list that. But, I'll keep playing and see if I can find out. I just thought I would brighten everyone's morning with these pictures I found while doing research for my next paper.

:D :D

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Flochief
I will be going to Chicago the first week of April. Does Chicago have a fire museum or any thing like that. This is my first trip to the windy city. I will be there from Sunday to Thusday at a convention at McCormick Place. any info would be appreciated. like resturants etc.

The museum is on De Koven, at the Academy, The same palce that the grest fire started.

If I can find a web site for you, I will add it to this post.

http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Fire/

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by superchef

It did not list that. But, I'll keep playing and see if I can find out. I just thought I would brighten everyone's morning with these pictures I found while doing research for my next paper.

:D :D

You made my day "bright". The photos are good. Keep posting them if you have more. What book did these come from? Can it be obtained?

Thanks. Good luck on your paper.

:D

superchef

03-02-2005, 03:21 PM

hey Capt

They are from the Library of Congress. I'll post more after I do some real work here. Here is the link. I have not gone through all of it yet but there is some great information here.

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/index.html

ps. thanks for the good wishes on the paper.
:)

Cheffie

JenniJ375

03-02-2005, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by superchef
the station mascots (Chicago Daily News, 1928)

Hey...we have even rescued lizards off a side of a building!! Kittens are cuter!!!!

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 03:26 PM

Thanks Cheffie.

Good luck on that paper. I have done my share of them and it isn't all that easy.

I won't bother you any more today.

Seeya

;) :)

superchef

03-02-2005, 04:06 PM

Capt
You are never a bother. ;)

Firefighters and a group of boys, members of the Chicago Junior Fire Department standing in front of a horse-drawn water wagon. (1929)

CaptOldTimer

03-02-2005, 05:24 PM

I went to that link that you provided. It was great. I looked at a lot of photos.

Hope you got the paper written. What was the subject anyhow?

Thanks for the photos today. :D

superchef

03-02-2005, 10:40 PM

Hope you got the paper written. What was the subject anyhow?

Capt, this is my second paper this semester. The theme I am basing all three papers on is our national fire problem. This second paper will be looking at the issues and challenges that the fire service are facing today. (this is a very brief overview, it is due in about a week and a half).

I am happy you enjoyed the pictures.

take care and stay safe out there.

Cheffie

:)

ullrichk

03-02-2005, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by CaptOldTimer

I thought that as well, BUT when I looked closer, the driver is on the right side of the seat on that wagon! That is where the driver is supposed to be. Unless Chicago had the driver on the left for some unknown reason.

Our 1926 ALF has right hand drive. This may not have been uncommon at one time. Anyone know for certain?

dmleblanc

03-03-2005, 01:52 AM

If you liked those pics, check this out...Pawtucket RI fire apparatus, circa 1903....

http://memory.loc.gov/mbrs/awal/1800.mpg

Hope the link works....

dmleblanc

03-03-2005, 02:02 AM

FDNY on parade, circa 1904....Check out the companies parading with their rescue nets and pompier ladders...cool!]

http://memory.loc.gov/mbrs/awal/1945.mpg

dmleblanc

03-03-2005, 02:11 AM

Chicago Fire Department...unknown date...training with the rescue net....You think the headfirst ladder bail is risky?

http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/n0890/n089050.jpg

dmleblanc

03-03-2005, 02:17 AM

Chicago again....

http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/n0891/n089126.jpg

superchef

03-03-2005, 11:23 AM

Enwright is holding on to a crank on the fire truck. (1928)

superchef

03-03-2005, 11:38 AM

Fireman in the charred ruins of the 68th Street water intake crib

superchef

03-03-2005, 01:14 PM

Fire fighters in Monte Vista, Rio Grande County, Colorado (roughly 1919-1925)

CaptOldTimer

03-03-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by ullrichk

Our 1926 ALF has right hand drive. This may not have been uncommon at one time. Anyone know for certain?

Look at the picture that I was referring too again. It was a wagon with REAL horse power. All horse drawn wagons had the driver on the right side, since the breaks where installed on that side. Fire apparatus makers copied this when making motorized apparatus. In fact most "horseless" apparatus had the pump "panel" or main controls on the right side. This was still being done, even when the driver was put on the left side on the vehicle. ALF did this for years as a safety thing.

I have seen all the others from Chicago.

They all look good.

CaptOldTimer

03-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by superchef

Capt, this is my second paper this semester. The theme I am basing all three papers on is our national fire problem. This second paper will be looking at the issues and challenges that the fire service are facing today. (this is a very brief overview, it is due in about a week and a half).

I am happy you enjoyed the pictures.

take care and stay safe out there.

Cheffie

:)

I am guessing that you have contacted the NFA learning center to get information for your papers. They have a good reference section.

superchef

03-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Can anyone tell me what a water crib is? I found a number of pictures from the Dunne fire which was one of Chicago's historical fires but I have no clue as to what a water crib is.

thanks

Cheffie

superchef

03-03-2005, 01:50 PM

Capt.

Yes. UMUC gives me direct access to them. :) The only thing I miss out on is any real hands on experience. But one of these days.. you never know... :D

jaybird210

01-26-2006, 10:07 AM

Can anyone tell me what a water crib is? I found a number of pictures from the Dunne fire which was one of Chicago's historical fires but I have no clue as to what a water crib is.

thanks

Cheffie

Sorry to dredge this one up, Cheffie, but I'm looking for historical pictures, and have just spent about four hours reviewing posts from you, FFFred and Ray. I'm posting this 'cause it doesn't look like anybody answered your question. Sorry it took me almost a year. You probably either found out by now, or don't care anymore. BUT, a water crib is an intake device for drawing water from the lake for potable use. They exist in dams and other reservoirs as well. It's basically a big screen to keep undesirable stuff out.

hwoods

01-26-2006, 10:28 AM

obligatory Disclaimer.......

I Do Not Appear In Any Of Those Photos. :D :D :D

superchef

01-26-2006, 11:21 AM

Thank you Jay. :) I hope the pictures helped you out and thanks for the answer too. I did eventually find out but I am flattered that you took the time to find this thread and answer me. The Library of Congress site is amazing isn't it? :)

MalahatTwo7

01-26-2006, 12:39 PM

obligatory Disclaimer.......

I Do Not Appear In Any Of Those Photos. :D :D :D

That Chief would because YOU were the guy working the camera :D

hwoods

01-26-2006, 12:51 PM

That Chief would because YOU were the guy working the camera :D

I would presume that YOU would have had to have been there observing the Photographer's actions from a discreet distance............ :D :D :D

Firetacoma1

01-26-2006, 01:28 PM

I know this thread is old but it got me thinking, how were the horses kept ready for a fire call? Were they constantly harnessed? What had to be done when a call came? How long did it take to get out the doors? Anyone know or know of any place on the net where I could learn more about it? Early 1900 fire history facinates me incredibly!

MalahatTwo7

01-26-2006, 01:54 PM

I would presume that YOU would have had to have been there observing the Photographer's actions from a discreet distance............ :D :D :D

I would have been the guy standing two paces back and one to the right, Chief. :D Just far enough to stay out of your way, but close enough to move up in support.

jaybird210

01-26-2006, 03:22 PM

The horse were not kept harnessed. They were kept in stalls, usually in the back of the apparatus room.

This early picture from the Aurora Regional Fire Museum (http://www.auroraregionalfiremuseum.o rg/) shows the set-up: the horses were led around to the front of the apparatus, and the harness dropped down on them. You can kinda make out the stalls in the back of this picture.

Dalmatian190

01-26-2006, 04:18 PM

CaptOldTimer wrote:
Hey, That is me on the right rear of the rig!!!!!

So...I guess that means it's Harve on the left?

ChicagoFF

02-05-2006, 12:03 AM

Can anyone tell me what a water crib is? I found a number of pictures from the Dunne fire which was one of Chicago's historical fires but I have no clue as to what a water crib is.

thanks

Cheffie
Another late answer, but I just saw this. The water cribs are man made "islands" i think 2 miles off shore. They take in water and send it through a tunnel to the city. They were built to keep us from drinking the heavily polluted water near the shore. If you have google earth (which you should because it's pretty cool and it's free) look off shore across from Montrose harbor, North Ave. beach, and 12th street beach and you can zoom in on them. The Montrose one is out of service, I believe, but the other two are still operational.

superchef

02-05-2006, 12:34 AM

Thank you Chicago. :) I'll have a look from the work computer Monday. My home dial up is too slow to do much of anything.

hwoods

02-05-2006, 12:39 AM

CaptOldTimer wrote:
Hey, That is me on the right rear of the rig!!!!!

So...I guess that means it's Harve on the left?

No, That does NOT mean that it's Harve on the left........ :D :D :D

MalahatTwo7

02-05-2006, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
CaptOldTimer wrote:
Hey, That is me on the right rear of the rig!!!!!

So...I guess that means it's Harve on the left?

No, That does NOT mean that it's Harve on the left........ :D :D :D

No, he's not the guy in the right seat. Harve would be the one in the back, photo center, riding behind. He hadn't been around quite long enough to be an Officer yet, although rumour has it he passed his boards and exams two months later. :D