FDNY term 'forth wip'???

[stcommodore]

someone clarify what that means for me, I heard it alot on radio and I think I know but I know someone will have the exact meaning and its really annoying me that I can't find it online somewhere.

[EdpEmtD]

"forthwith" is the term, it means as soon as possible. (like yesterday)

[TillerMan25]

"Fourth Whip" I believe is a term from the days of Horse Drawn Engines. Had something to do with the Driver of the Horses. I think I remember reading something about it in my FDNY Historical Apparatus Book.

I'm sure someone will pipe up and correct me.

[Smoke20286]

EdpEmtD is correct

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

As a public service to those in other areas of the country who are not multi-lingual, here are some resources to help you avoid these types of cultural faux pas in the future.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary .com/New%20York-New%20Jersey%20English

http://newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu/2003/issue3/story5/

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/9976/visitorinfo.html#speak

http://jmtoyzilla.tripod.com/rantlointatawk.html

http://www.shewi.com/archive/accent.htm

http://www.acoustics.org/press/134th/huffman.htm

http://www.xent.com/FoRK-archive/oct97/0844.html

Please note: Jersey (the only New state where you don't say the New) and Lon Guyland sites were included here as well. The accent tends to be crossover depending on where you live.

[VinnieB]

The NYPD and FDNY/EMS also use it....it mean do something REALLY "F"'n quickly........

We use 10-85 forthwith....meaning..if you don't get her like NOW...I am going to be dead.

The cops and fireman also say..."Put a Rush on..."

[MattyJ]

The term is forthwith, and means ASAP. First whip is from the old days and basicly isnt used anymore. I was given a list of terms in proby school, and you'd be suprised at some of the unofficial "official' terms the Job has.

[kentbwj]

Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
As a public service to those in other areas of the country who are not multi-lingual, here are some resources to help you avoid these types of cultural faux pas in the future.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary .com/New%20York-New%20Jersey%20English

http://newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu/2003/issue3/story5/

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/9976/visitorinfo.html#speak

http://jmtoyzilla.tripod.com/rantlointatawk.html

http://www.shewi.com/archive/accent.htm

http://www.acoustics.org/press/134th/huffman.htm

http://www.xent.com/FoRK-archive/oct97/0844.html

Please note: Jersey (the only New state where you don't say the New) and Lon Guyland sites were included here as well. The accent tends to be crossover depending on where you live.

LOL! Those websites are great!!!!!!! I must say, from a female and completely subjective point of view, there is no accent sexier than a noo yawk accent!

[sponge]

Ah, the memories. It's been a while since I've had to make a forthwith response or request a rush on da bus (although I've been really tempted to try that in Alaska).

[VinnieB]

Originally posted by kentbwj


LOL! Those websites are great!!!!!!! I must say, from a female and completely subjective point of view, there is no accent sexier than a noo yawk accent!

OOOO....A....Fugetaboutit...:D

[jsdobson]

Ah, the memories. It's been a while since I've had to make a forthwith response or request a rush on da bus (although I've been really tempted to try that in Alaska).

Sponge,

Just where are you located?

[NJFFSA16]

Forthwith!-The FDNY term
Expedite!- The EMS term
Step on it!- The dispatchers' term
Don't waste any time!- The rural PD term
Put the pedal to the metal!- The NASCAR dads' term
Hurry up!- The polite term
Move it! The military term
@&%#$*!!- The expletive term
Fly Dallas, FLY!- The Red October term
Get along little doggie!- The W term
Faster, faster!- E229Lt wife's term :D (Just :eek:kidding LT.)

[sponge]

Originally posted by jsdobson


Sponge,

Just where are you located?

Clear/Anderson

[kentbwj]

Originally posted by VinnieB


OOOO....A....Fugetaboutit...:D


Sigh....:)

[VinnieB]

Originally posted by kentbwj



Sigh....:)

Too bad I can't get sound on this thing....I'd really make you crazy....:D :D Most of the "bumpkins" were I currently live Can Not understand a friggin word I say.....

[kentbwj]

Originally posted by VinnieB


Too bad I can't get sound on this thing....I'd really make you crazy....:D :D Most of the "bumpkins" were I currently live Can Not understand a friggin word I say.....

Sigh x 2. Do you need a club to fend off all the women or what???

[VinnieB]

Originally posted by kentbwj


Sigh x 2. Do you need a club to fend off all the women or what???

Naaa...my personality does that for me...:D :D :D :D :D

[CALFFBOU]

In California, if you want something done quickly on the radio,
the term "expedite" is used.

-Bou

[stcommodore]

here is another fdny question...what qualifies something as a 'support unit' on the wtc recordings many of the rescue units that were lost had crews come in on buses, etc but offically what would a 'support unit' be?

[MattyJ]

It wasnt just the Rescue Companies that went by bus, but most off duty guys went in by bus. Entire city buses were commendeered,and filled with guys all over the city.
A support unit could be any unit that isnt the companies first line rig. In other words it is a rig that carries extra equiptment for the company (Haz-Mat,Collapse Material, Rescue Equipt....etc.) There is also Haz-Mat Support units and Rescue Support Units. Certain Ladder companies are rescue support companies. They have some special training and I believe a utility truck or van with special equiptment. Same with Haz-Mat. But there are many different support units. It isnt a set in stone type rig or company.

[stcommodore]

Would Rescue 3 Colapse count as a support unit or a unit all of in itself?

[MattyJ]

Well Rescue 3 IS the Collapse Unit. It isnt staffed by a seperate unit. It is staffed by the members of R3 who are working that tour. So it is a R3 rig. As I said, it isnt that complicated. If it supports the company or job at a particular type incident, than call it a support unit. It is a term used basicly for rigs that respond under special circumstances to bring extra equiptment to the scene of a certain type incident. It is not a set in stone term. But most of them are reffered to as "__________ Support Unit" on the radio if thats what you're asking.