Getting new knee joints!

[ChiefReason]

Well, as some of you know, I have been walking around on a couple of bad knees. I have had 4 surgeries on the left one and 7 surgeries on the right one. I have suffered from osteoarthritis since I was 19 years old. I have been on a steady diet of anti-inflammatories for the past several years. I cannot take them anymore for fear of liver/kidney damage. The past few weeks have been intolerable.
I saw my orthopedic doctor last Friday and we set up an appointment with Dr. Driesnack, who will set my surgery date for a bilateral knee joint replacement, hopefully by year's end. When he said that it was time to replace them, I cried like a baby. I have no idea what it will be like to be pain free. Even with the anti-inflammatories, they still hurt. I didn't realize how effective they were until they took me off of them. I cannot be on my feet for more than an hour at a time. I finally gave in today and called his office and they have prescribed me Tramadol until my appointment of Nov. 24th.
I am soooo looking forward to the new joints.
You cannot imagine how the pain can affect your outlook on Life.
I have tried very hard not to let it limit my normal activities, but if I ever have grandchildren, I will be able to play "horsey" like a normal grandpa.
Whoopee!
CR

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Our thoughts are with you, CR!

[WTFD10]

Best of luck CR!

My grandfather had both of his knees replaced many years ago and it really improved his quality of life.

[Weruj1]

Art good luck .........in 2000 my dad had his right knee replaced, it was very arthritic and actually over the years effected his gait. He has been pain free and had minimal difficulty. I can tell you that the only set back he has is how he gets up and down from the ground, he cannot be on all fours. So I am not trying to bust your bubble and I know this will be a great relief on you and you should be recovered just in time for the spring links to open up !

[jboczek]

Best of luck, CR. They going to feed you turkey in the hospital?

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

Art, Congratulations on your new body parts! All kidding aside, I sincerely wish you a speedy recovery. They say the first month or so is a real bitch after that surgery, but you will start to feel remarkably better after that. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Maybe next summer I can get my ass kicked in golf by you and your new knees. :eek:

[PFire23]

Art, I'm glad to hear that you are finally going to be pain free. I know from the few times that you've mentioned it that it is something that has been very difficult to live with. When you are going through recovery just keep reminding yourself of all the things you will be able to do, and that you will be able to do them without pain meds. Keep us posted.

Jenn

[codeblue81]

CR, I pray that you have a speedy and uneventful recovery. You're in all of our thoughts and prayers.

code_blue81

[firenresq77]

Art, glad to hear you're finally able to get this taken care of...... Good luck to you.......

[SPFDRum]

Art, best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.

[JorieH]

Best wishes to you and your knees. Hope the recovery is short and limited pain if not painless. If the hospital won't give you a real Thanksgiving dinner someone should bring you one. If you can/want let me know and i'll bring/send you one.:D

Jorie

[Steamer]

Just think, CR. Problems since you were 19; the post-procedure therapy can't be any where near that bad or take that long. I've got the same issue facing me at some point, but only on the starboard side. Mine grinds so bad, people next to me can often hear it when I get up from a crouch.

In any event, relax, get ya a stash of your favorite cigars and hootch, and coast through the winter. You'll be good to go by the time it's 'bike season again. Piece o' cake! ;)

[kprsn1]

Art, thoughts and prayers are with you. My wife had back surgery last year (2 separate procedures through the front and the back to place pins) to correct back pain she's had since high school from degenerative discs. She is so much happier now since she is practically pain free. I expect you to be back on the golf course in no time with your new hinges.:D

Chad

[PFire23]

I saw my orthopedic doctor last Friday and we set up an appointment with Dr. Driesnack, who will set my surgery date for a bilateral knee joint replacement, hopefully by year's end.

[until my appointment of Nov. 24th.


Art, have I misread your post? I understood it to say that the appt with the Dr to set the surgery date was on Nov 24, and that they are hoping to have your surgery done before the New Year. Looking at other people's replies I'm not sure if it is they or me who have misread or misunderstood.



Oh, and as for the dinner in the hospital.......... I bet Mrs. Reason will take real good care of you huh. :D :D :D

[jaybird210]

Good luck, Art.

We should probably get out and golf on, say, Nov 29. I'm figuring that'll be the only way I have a chance at beating you!!

[jboczek]

I guess the WOT is the only one that can read in this bunch. CR, it does indeed say that your appointment with the doc is Nov. 24 and not the actual surgery. I was really worried about you eating hospital turkey. Now that won't be a problem. Our little misunderstanding in no way takes away from our best wishes for a successful surgery.

[ullrichk]

CR,

If you are able, could you pass your surgical/recovery experiences along to me? I've got two friends on my department who are going to be facing the same thing in the not-too-distant future. They're understandably anxious about it and would appreciate an unbiased account from someone who really understands the fire service.

Best wishes for a sppedy recovery.

(Make damn sure you do everything your physical therapist says. They can be a royal pain, but they're usually right when it comes to things like this. I oughta know - I'm married to one and she's had to rehab my shoulder twice. Ouch!)

[ChiefReason]

ullrichk:
Be glad to. Maybe I should keep a journal. Take it from a guy who has been under the knife 11 times; it's the anaesthesiologist that I want the book on. Anyone can cut, but give me the guy who literally holds your life in his hands.
I found out early on that you have to do what the PT tells you.
It hurts like hell, but the payoff is worth it.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Jack; I am hoping that the doctor schedules the surgery asap on Nov. 24th. It can't come soon enough.
CR

[jsdobson]

I too would be very interested in reading a journal of your surgery and recovery. My knee problem pales in comparison with yours but I have an appointment next week to determine my next step in dealing with no cartilage in one of the knees.

Dobber

[lilyogi]

Chief,
I wish you the best with your knees, I kind of know what you are going through. I have bad knees also. That means you will have a lot of time to leave posts on here! ha ha ha take care lilyogi

[pcfdcap1]

CR, good luck at your appt. this week. My left knee is 6 years old now and starting to wear out. Some advise for you. Don't try to play softball next summer.:)

[JorieH]

Best wishes CR!

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Thinking positive thoughts for you, Art! Hope you will be able to update us soon as to the results of your appointment today.

[ChiefReason]

As I said, I will keep a journal as I move towards my eventual surgery.
To get a complete picture, I will go back to Nov. 5th and make that my first, official journal entry.
I will keep my journal in this thread. I will also have info at the IACOJ website for those that are interested.
Thank you for your thoughts.

CR'S KNEE JOURNAL
Friday, November 5, 2004:
Went to my appointment with my orthopedic doctor at 2:50 pm.
It is my intent to have my anti-inflammatory, non-steriodal (AINS) medication renewed.
As Dr. O reviews my medical history, he discovers that I have been taking AINS for my arthritis and degenerative joint disease for the past 15 years. It is his opinion that the drugs have become ineffective and may be causing permanent liver/kidney damage. He says that it is time for new knee joints; music to my ears.
An appointment with the knee surgeon for a pre-surgery consultation is made for Wednesday, November 24, 2004 at 1:30 pm.
It can't come soon enough.
More later.
CR

[RspctFrmCalgary]

But but but, did you get a date for the surgery?

I didn't see anything on the crusty site ... am I just blind?

[ChiefReason]

New entries to my journal:
CR'S KNEE JOURNAL
Monday, November 15, 2004

It has been 10 days since I was taken off my knee medication and the pain is excruciating. It is waking me up at night, cramps in both legs are occurring with more intensity and frequency and morning stiffness in both knees is extremely painful. I cannot get on them and walk until I have sat and flexed them for a time.
The pain is affecting my mood, so I call my family physician and ask if he would prescribe pain meds until my 11/24 appointment. He prescribes Ultram. It is effective. Joints are still stiff in the morning, but less painful.

Wednesday, November 24, 2004

Today, I am to see the orthopedic surgeon for my consultation. I have been told by many that Dr. D is one of the best joint specialists in the country. My appointment is for 1:30 pm.
I am taken into an exam room at 2:45 pm. I don’t mind the lateness; I am feeling the effects of the Ultram and reading about Bush’s victory.
The nurse is going over my health survey. They seem to be prying; asking about tobacco and alcohol use. I just want my knees fixed; we can talk morality later, I was thinking to myself.
They order X-rays and I trot off in my paper, exam shorts to the X-ray lab. There, he takes 6 views of each leg.
I am returned to the exam room, where I continue to read about the annihilation of the Democrats.
The doctor comes in and immediately starts his exam after a firm handshake.
He has me walk for him. He manipulates my joints. He looks at the X-rays. He makes notes, saying very little.
He breaks his silence with, “You have two, very bad knee joints that are in need of replacement”.
I would like them both done at the same time. He tells me that, due to the condition of the knees, he will do one at a time, for fear of complications. He explains that, typically, joints are replaced in people who have not had that many previous surgeries and especially ones that aren’t as complicated as mine. He will have to remove staples and wear plates in my right knee before he does anything else. The seven, previous surgeries on that knee aren’t doing me any favors at the moment. Plus, because of all the scars and scar tissue, he is concerned about the skin healing, so we must also involve a plastic surgeon, Dr. M. AND then there’s my history with post surgery infections and feels that my immune system might be weakened from all of the antibiotics that I have taken, so he believes that, if I am attacked by an infection after surgery, amputation of the right leg is a very real possibility.
Wait a minute; could we back up to that part where you said that you may have to cut off my leg above the knee?
I have had numerous discussions about my knees, but amputation has never been an option; at least not openly discussed with me. The doctor re-assures me that he believes that we will have a positive outcome. That’s the spirit, Doc!
But I keep thinking about GOLF! Crazy, huh? At that moment, I wasn’t thinking about the other ways an artificial leg would change my life. In my mind, I was trying to imagine putting my weight on my right leg as I come down and swing through the ball! Thank God, I’m not obsessed with the game.
We talk about the left leg; my “good” leg. Because the bones in the lower leg are curved, he will have to straighten the bones when he replaces the knee joint or we will have a grossly, misaligned joint.
Doctor D asks me if I want to hold off or get something done sometime next year?
I break down in a flood of emotion and I tell him that I am tired of the constant pain, the “one step at a time” when I go down the stairs, the lack of mobility in the right leg-sometimes I can’t bend it enough to get up over a CURB-and that I want something done as soon as possible.
He whispers something to his nurse and she leaves. The doctor is making notes and I’m still wrestling with the possibility of losing my right leg. My thoughts are:
Do I leave it on for sex or do I take it off?
Will it be an acceptable excuse if I get pulled over for speeding? Sorry, Officer; I don’t have a right leg and couldn’t feel the accelerator.
I was also thinking about if I could still ride my bicycle.
But my biggest concern was if it would change how my wife feels about me.
The nurse came back with the good doctor’s schedule. He is booked solid clear through February, 2005. He was due to start vacation on December 20th, but Nurse Heather said that he could book an OR for that day, if he wanted to postpone his vacation by one day. He says he would. He asks if I want to have it done that quickly and I almost kissed him; I mean, his nurse.
So, he tells his nurse to book an OR for 4 hours and that it will be the only surgery that he does that day.
He tells me that I can expect to be in the hospital 4-5 days.
Whoopee; I’ll be home for Christmas!
I’m thinking of the song “all’s I want for Christmas is my new right knee”.
We finish up this visit by giving blood, getting two more X-rays and setting up a consultation with the plastic surgeon.
I will still have a knee “class” to attend and all of the pre-testing before surgery.
Monday, December 20, 2004 is the day that my right knee-my “worst” knee-will be replaced.
It will be my best Christmas ever!
More later.
CR

[Weruj1]

Art, Hang tough I am here for ya. Also glad to hear there really is a Santa Claus!

[firenresq77]

Art........ Glad to hear you are getting at least one of them done...... Hope everything goes as planned.....

[RspctFrmCalgary]

I guess I was just too impatient ;)

I replied over there.

[lilyogi]

Chief,
I am sure everything will go great for you. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

[ChiefReason]

Wednesday, December 1, 2004
Received a phone call from my orthopedic surgeon's office today.
They gave me my schedule of upcoming appointments and to tell me that I must get clearance from my DENTIST for my knee replacement surgery. I argued. It made no sense to me. The nurse explained that they had to make sure that I did not have any tooth infections, because infection of any kind would attack the surgery site. So, I agreed to make a dental appointment. It is Friday, December 3rd. I HATE going to the dentist. They always find something to drill and fill. Yuck!
Then she informed me that I have a 2:15 pm appointment with Julie on Thursday, December 2nd for the pre-testing and then a 3:00 pm with Heather so that Heather can explain in detail what the surgery will entail.
They also told me that I have an appointment on Monday, December 6th with the plastic surgeon to find out if there will be healing problems with the skin on that leg.
I'll have more to report after I make my next appointments.
CR

[jaybird210]

I've heard of that dentist thing being an issue.

I always heard you had a dirty mouth, CR. Must've gotten around!!!:eek: :D :p

[Weruj1]

Ya I forgot about the dentist thingy .............keep us informed ...and good luck !

[JorieH]

Positive prayers, best of luck and wishes for your up comming surgery. Hopefully swelling will be low, minimal pain if any and lots of icecream-or is the icecream for if you have your tonsils removed?:D

Good luck; don't mind the dentist to much, they may just want to give a cleaning, maybe.;) J/K

Jorie:D

[lilyogi]

Hey Chief,
Any of these girls you named cute and single? ha ha ha
Take care and you are in my prayers.

[ChiefReason]

Thursday, December 2, 2004
I had back to back appointments at Orthopedic Institute.
At 2:15 pm, I spent time with Nurse Jan going over my medical history in detail.
She took my blood pressure, monitored my pulse and listened to my heart and lungs through her stethoscope.
At 3:00 pm, I talked to Nurse Heather about the knee prosthesis and all of the complications that could arise during and after surgery. There was a list of thirteen items. I won’t list them.
Nurse Heather described the regional anesthesia that I would be given for my surgery. I have always been given a general, so this was to be quite different. I would be getting an epidural along with a drug that would make me sleep. That way, I would be breathing on my own. There would be no breathing tube. This anesthesia would also reduce the chances of stroke, heart attack and pneumonia. I will also be wearing elastic stockings on both legs and would also have foot pumps on to reduce the chances of getting blood clots.
She told me that I would be using a walker. I vetoed that and we agreed on the use of crutches. We went over the rest of my appointments and I was done.
CR

[ChiefReason]

Friday, December 3, 2004
I had a 2:00 pm appointment to get medical clearance from my dentist.
I was promptly taken into an exam room, where X-rays of my entire mouth were taken. Dr. Jeff came in, grabbed his “tooth-picking” tool and started scratching my teeth with it. I hate that. Of course, he struck a couple of nerves on teeth that were in need of some work. Then, he used a laser tool to measure the density of the teeth and then he ordered X-rays of my upper canine and upper back molar.
He returned and informed me that both teeth would either need root canals or extractions. I said that he could pull them. He decided that he would do it right then and there!
So, he grabbed the syringe of Lidocaine from Nurse Sheila and pumped me so full that my right nostril was completely numb. But when he went to pull the molar, I could feel the “spade”, so he gave me a couple more shots.
When he stood up, I thought that he had only pulled one of the two and asked him if he intended to pull the other one and he said that he already had! They stitched me up, gave me a prescription for pain medication and told me to come back next Friday to have the stitches removed. Yippee!
I also have teeth on the left side that will have to be scheduled for fillings. They will wait until long after I have my knee surgery.
I absolutely HATE going to the dentist.
CR

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by ChiefReason
I will also be wearing elastic stockings on both legs and would also have foot pumps on That just put some images in my head I don't care to ever see again!!!

Glad to hear you are getting closer, CR..........

[Rayr49]

Thanks 77! Now I have some images in my head also that I hope to forget. I would assume black foot pumps to go with the Harley.


Stay Safe
IACOJ

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

By the time you are done with all of this Art, we will be calling you "Steve Austin"

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Rayr49
Thanks 77! Now I have some images in my head also that I hope to forget. I would assume black foot pumps to go with the Harley.


Stay Safe
IACOJ Hey, if I had to deal with those images, everyone else should, too!!!!!!!!!:eek: :D ;)

[JorieH]

Ok. You have cause not to like the dentist. :eek: Ouch!
Keep up the high spirits. It sounds like you have a good team working with you.:D

Jorie

[ChiefReason]

Tuesday, December 7, 2004
Met with the plastic surgeon today at 9:30 am.
Noooo; I'm not having an extreme makeover to go with the foot pumps.
The purpose of the visit is to determine if the skin on the right knee will heal properly and to map the area where the knee would be incised.
After filling out my medical history for the umpteenth time, I was taken to an exam room, where I removed my slacks for the examination.
The doctor and his lovely assistant came in. Both appeared to be very young. Hmmm; I wonder...
The doctor decided that the best location to incise for the best post-surgery results would be to go directly over an existing surgical scar on the anterior aspect of the right knee.
He also described hyperbaric therapy should healing become a problem. If that doesn't work, they would consider taking the leg above the knee.
He was to contact my orthopedic surgeon with his findings.
Green light for December 20th so far.
CR

[ChiefReason]

Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Went to the hospital today to pre-register.
Once all of my personal information was taken, I went with a technician, who took blood from me.
Everything is set to go at the hospital.
Surgery is located on the second floor.
Good coffee in the waiting room.
CR

[lilyogi]

Chief, You never did say whether any of these nurses (Young) are cute! Ha ha ha

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

If there is ANY chance of "taking your leg above the knee", PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE come to Chicago for another opinion. I am talking Loyola, Northwestern, The University of Chicago or Rush which all are teaching hospitals. I know your a big boy, but I am worried about you man.

[SAFD46Truck]

I just happened to stumble upon this thread ( I'm not a regular in the Illinois forum). I had no idea, best wishes and good luck Cheif...I hope they fix you up like new. -46

[Rayr49]

Chief, best of luck. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Remember you've got golf clubs and a Harley waitng in addition to your family and friends.


Stay Safe
IACOJ

[PFire23]

CR,

Allow me to second Mikey's thoughts. When they start talking about lopping off an appendage I'd be seeking a second & third opinion. Why are they so worried about the healing process? Is there an underlying condition (you do not have to answer this, I'm just thinking out loud) I too worry about ya and you are in my prayers. Thanks for keeping us posted.

[JorieH]

Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
If there is ANY chance of "taking your leg above the knee", PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE come to Chicago for another opinion. I am talking Loyola, Northwestern, The University of Chicago or Rush which all are teaching hospitals. I know your a big boy, but I am worried about you man.

I third this motion. Though I'ld recommend Lutheran General before Rush North Shore-aka "death valley", it was a long time ago; when it was still called Skokie Valley. Also at Lutheran you get a cute little fuzzy stuffed teddy bear for your first visit!

Just wondering if you've looked into the Illinois Bone and Joint Institute. There is a doctor there that only does is knees, Dr. Raab. The number is (847)375-3000. Also Dr. Supero an Orthopedic Surgeon at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, who's a teaching professor at Nothwestern University and has his own private practice. His office number is (847) 998-5680 ext. 4295. Just putting out there in case if you or anyone else would like to make a call on their own.

All my prayers are with you CR.

[Weruj1]

Art..........standing by, praying for you, get that other opinion.

[jaybird210]

Ditto. :(

[ullrichk]

CR

It has been my experience that if you don't like what the doctor says, you can always find a firehouse expert to give you a different opinion. :D :D :D

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

[pcfdcap1]

Art, and the rest of you,
I heard all of the risk stories when I had my knee replaced 6 years ago. the possibility of complications resulting in serious problems is so remote, it's not worth worrying about.
A week and a half to go:D

[80FIRE]

I hope everything goes well also Art. I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply, still can only post from computer at the FH. Most everyone around here that I know has had great success with knee replacements. I talked to a road commisioner after the county board meeting last week. He had both knees done and is back to running the road grader and dump truck after 6 weeks.I understand your desires to be rid of the constant pain. I feel 100% better after having my neck surgery last spring. As long as everyone else is offering Dr advice mine would be find a good looking one....it worked for me!

Just make sure they don't operate on the
wrong knee...especially the wee-nee!:D

[firenresq77]

Good luck, Art......... My 38 y/o aunt just had one of her knees replaced for the 2nd time. I think she was supposed to be released today.....

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

When I was referring to Rush, I meant the old Pres-St.Lukes on the westside. Northwestern, IMHO is the best in town for CR's knees.

[JorieH]

Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
When I was referring to Rush, I meant the old Pres-St.Lukes on the westside. Northwestern, IMHO is the best in town for CR's knees.

Oh, okay than, sorry about that.

[Rainman4u2]

Only the guy who played baseball with your son could ask this question...Art...How is your knees got to the state that they are in now???:D

Sorry CR, just tring to add a little humor, I know how much "fun" surgeries can be.

Hey, want to compare scars sometime????:p

[jaybird210]

Okay, so I couldn't help but notice this. This is "somebody's" location:

3 1/2 Blocks from ChiefReason, then he moved into a new house farther away with 2 sewer systems.

And the thought that comes to mind is this: How full of $#!+ are you that you need TWO sewer systems?!?!? I don't even have that!!! And I'm generally pretty full of $#!+.



:D :D


:cool:

[Rainman4u2]

Hey!!! I'm not the one who has city sewer, and a septic tank.:D

[CaptBob]

Here is a web site with great information on knees.

http://factotem.org/cgi-bin/kneebbs.pl

Captain Bob

[jboczek]

Originally posted by Rainman4u2
Hey!!! I'm not the one who has city sewer, and a septic tank.:D

OUR city sewers USE septic tanks! The sewer lines collect the effluent from the tanks and then it's treated at a central treatment plant. That's one thing I'm sure of - I know my poop.

[jaybird210]

I know my poop.

I'll vouch for that!!! :D

[ChiefReason]

Jay:
I believe that Rainman was making an attempt at humor at my expense.
I believe that he is referring to the fact that I had a septic tank under my house and a sewer drain. Actually, the sewer was hooked into the septic tank and the outlet had five busted tile.
The attorney came over last night and wants to SETTLE.
Wait a minute; this is about knee joints. I feel my blood pressure going up.
Not good before surgery.
Funny, Ray.
CR

[jboczek]

I was just wondering how we went from knee replacements to septic tanks but I figured it out. Knee replacements run a risk of infection. Septic tanks thrive on bacteria Bacteria can cause infections. Therefore, if you're having your knees replaced, stay away from septic tanks.

[jaybird210]

Outstanding work, Jack. That is probably the most magnificent job of mapping a conversation I have ever seen. :D

[ChiefReason]

Yeah; kinda like "over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house we go"...
BUT...isn't "septic" a medical term?
Would that make Jack the Doctor of Poop?
Hmmmmm.
CR

[ChiefReason]

Monday, December 13, 2004
Went to my personal physician today for medical clearance for my surgery.
Weight, blood pressure, pulse, eyes, ears, nose, throat, lungs, heart were all checked.
Given the OK. But I have to stay healthy between now and Monday.
CR

[ChiefReason]

Tuesday, December 14, 2004
Went to the hospital again for joint class and pre-testing. Today was a day of screw ups.
Orders from the doctor’s office never made it over to the hospital. They questioned the lack of pre-testing, so I called the doctor’s office on my cell phone and spoke to the nurse there. I explained that I was at the hospital and that the only thing that had been done in preparation for my surgery was a blood draw last Wednesday. She was beside herself and said that she would fax over orders for more tests “right away”.
Forty-five minutes later, the orders still hadn’t arrived, so I went on to my joint class, where a physical therapist spoke, we watched a movie about the surgery and recovery, asked questions and then the dietician spoke of the need for good diet after the surgery.
As I looked around the room, I noticed that I was the youngest one there. Everyone else was in their 70s.
After the class, I was taken back down to pre-test, where I was given an EKG and a chest X-ray. I also had to produce a urine sample. As the nurse was completing the paperwork, she noticed that I was missing some tests of my blood, so she had to draw more blood from me.
After I was done at the hospital, I went to my surgeon’s office to drop off certification papers. I only hope that they aren’t misplaced.
Today didn’t go so smoothly. I hope the day of surgery is better organized. We’ll see.
CR

[jaybird210]

Would that make Jack the Doctor of Poop?

Is that a motion, CR?

If it is, I'll second it if we can change the title to "Doctor of Poopology."

This will result in less confusion, and lessen the chances of somebody mistakenly calling him, "Dr. Poop." We wouldn't want that.
---------------

On a serious note, it sounds like you are having a typical time. Let's hope they get it straightened out. All doctors are quacks. IMHO.

[Weruj1]

what about Dr Fea-cal ?

[jboczek]

Doctor of Poopology?
I used to say that I've been called worse, but I think this is about as bad as it could get.
Do I get a certificate to hang on the wall?
I should know better than to keep this going.
CR, the time is nearing. Best of luck with the surgery.

[jaybird210]

So, everyone, how's this look? I can make changes, if you'd like....

[ChiefReason]

Would this be considered a "crappy" day?:D
I can see that Jack is flush with pride.
Jack; may I be the first to pull your finger.
CR

[jaybird210]

:D ROFLMAO!!!:D

[jboczek]

Jay, you actually printed that thing, didn't you? Don't you have somebody calling for an ambulance or something? Go help the sprinkler guys or drywallers to entertain yourself.
By the way, my middle initial is "I", not H. My brother and I were given middle names in honor of our parents' fathers.
Even I, the Doctor of Poopology, can't figure out what this post has to do with knee joints. Unless you consider the fact that you have to bend your knee to kick somebody in the behind.

[JorieH]

CR-December 20th is the big day, right?
Soon you'll be on the gound playing with your puppy and going for walks. Don't forget the poop bags, right Jack aka Doctor of Poopology? :D Or are you a Doctor of just human poop? :D

[jaybird210]

Dr. Boczek, this whole thing has nothing much to do with knee joints.

However, I believe if I were to start a "Doctor of Poopology" thread, the webteam would (rightfully) shut it down.

This way, it is buried in a useful and educational thread.


We now return you to the regularly scheduled thread. Thank you for your patience. Or patients, Doctor.

[Weruj1]

Another perfectly hi-jacked thread !....is there a Dr. in the house ?

[RspctFrmCalgary]

hehehe :D

[jboczek]

Sheri, after this, do you still respect flatland firefighters?

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Dr. Poopy, how could you even ask? Of course! :eek: :p :D

[Rainman4u2]

I suppose that this all my fault.:D All I know is that I am sure "learning" alot from my fellow flat landers. Art if I don't see you before Monday, good luck! If you need anything call Doog!

[ChiefReason]

I have to be at the hospital at 8:30 am on Monday, December 20th.
I assume surgery will be between 10:00 and 10:30 am.
My doctor is starting off his day with an arthroscopy and then me.
I like the idea of him getting a little warm up before he tackles my right knee.
I will be hungry when I get back to my room.
CR

[firenresq77]

Art, good luck on Monday and in your recovery. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers, brother.........

[lilyogi]

Chief,
You will be in my thoughts and prayers monday! I am sure everything will go just fine. Remember... be sure to give your nurses a hard time! ha ha

[JorieH]

Originally posted by ChiefReason
I have to be at the hospital at 8:30 am on Monday, December 20th.
I assume surgery will be between 10:00 and 10:30 am.
My doctor is starting off his day with an arthroscopy and then me.
I like the idea of him getting a little warm up before he tackles my right knee.
I will be hungry when I get back to my room.
CR

Prayer are with you and guardian angels always above.
Nice to know he'll be warmed up for you.
Hope they will give you decent food afterwards. :D

[ullrichk]

On the bright side, you've got the longest night of the year to sleep off the effects of your meds. :D

We're looking forward to a positive report from you in a few days.

[jaybird210]

Good luck, Art. Obviously, we're all thinking of you....

[pcfdcap1]

Things will go smooth for you tomorrow, Art. My 6 year old knee aches for you to have a speedy recovery. Just be ready to puke up the first thing you eat after surgery-I did.

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Welllllllllll, now he has NOTHING to look forward to! LMFAO, what a meanie thing to say! First scare him with talk of saws and drills and then ruin the one thing he was looking forward to most right after surgery ... FOOD!

HAHAHA nice friends, hey CR?! :p :D ;)

Will definitely think good thoughts for you while you're under the knife tomorrow, Art.

[ChiefReason]

Could this be the end of The Adventures of Jake and Vinnie?
Or will Jake have a little chat with the doctor?
Will the patient say lewd and lascivious remarks while under the influence of anesthetic to Nurse Barb?
Tune in Tuesday.
:eek:
CR

[JorieH]

Tune in Tuesday.

Will do!

Just relax, and don't forget to have that dream when you're flying through the sky and you visit everyone and see what they're doing. Though, must recommend not to check on the doctor while operating, that can be uncomfortable :D

"It wasn't a dream. You were there, and you were there, and you...Oh but it wasn't a dream." -Wizard of Oz

[Weruj1]

Art was "in country" this passed weekeend to see family. I feeel bad I didnt send you off with any well wishes, but know I am thinking of you. I hope you had a positive outcome, will look forward to the Tuesday update.

[firenresq77]

Hope everythings going OK for you, Art........

[Weruj1]

anybody got any skinny on Art ?

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

Josh I was thinking the same thing myself.

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Me tooooo!

We want all the dirt! Chasing the nurses around the room for Yogi? Did they feed ya? Good drugs? Good food? Puke it back up again? hehehehe :D :D :D ;)

Seriously though, hope everything went well. Just wanted you to know I've been thinking good thoughts for ya the past few days, Art.

[JorieH]

Well hoping you are doing well.

Are you just resting it up? Or do/did you not have computer access?

[Weruj1]

I have left a message for Art to call me if he feels up to it. I will keep you advised.

[firenresq77]

I'm thinking he may still be in the hospital. My aunt was in there for like 3 days after her replacement a few weeks ago, then was laid up at home for a few, still under the weather........

[pcfdcap1]

Usually, the first day after surgery is the worst. I know a computer was the last thing on my mind the next day. Back when I had mine done at UW Madison, my insurance company would only allow a 2 day stay. I had surgery on Wed and was back home on Friday---way too soon. That 80 minute ride home was almost unbearable.
Art, you'll get feeling better in a couple of days. Just don't sping outta the hospital too soon. Those first steps are going to feel weird. They're easy to make with a good lookin' therapist on each side of you though:D

[Weruj1]

right I am sure he still an inpatient ........when my dad had his done he was in for a few days ..........

[jboczek]

CR said, at the Christmas party Sunday night, that he was hoping to be back at the computer on Thursday. He'll probably spend a lot of time here and at the Crustie site over the next few weeks.

[jaybird210]

Anybody talk to Art yet?

Since I lost my phone last month, I don't have his numbers anymore.

[jboczek]

haven't heard anything from him yet. Guess no news is good news.
I'll bet somebody else has got his number now, huh?

[Weruj1]

I am hopin all is well !!!!!

[JorieH]

Originally posted by Weruj1
I am hopin all is well !!!!!

Ditto.

[Weruj1]

found Arts home number ..............left a message..........will keep you advised.

[ChiefReason]

Josh:
Got your phone message. Thanks for giving me a call.
I'm not myself yet. Pain meds still have me a little goofy.
I have some entries to make to the Knee Journal.
Will do so when this latest flare up of pain subsides and I am not nodding off.
But thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. It means a lot.
CR

[ChiefReason]

Thursday, December 16, 2004
Nurse called last night to get my medical history...AGAIN!
Medications? Only take the Protonix and Timolol the morning of surgery with just a sip of water.
Allergies? Latex or rubber? Nope. Foods? Yeah; hospital food. Demerol and Soma compounds. Don't take aspirin or ibuprophen. Tylenol is OK.
How many surgeries were arthroscopy?
No alcohol within 24 hours of the surgery.
No smoking 12 hours before surgery.
Nothing by mouth after midnight.
Any questions? Yeah; what time Monday?
They'll call me tomorrow.

Friday, December 17, 2004
Hospital called today and told me to be at the hospital by 8:30 am on Monday. I am guessing surgery time will be 10:00-10:30 am.
Great; I should be starved by the time I wake up after surgery. Confused?
It's true that I am having an epidural, but they will also give me something to make me sleep. They will put headphones on me for some strange reason. They will have me up and sitting in a chair that evening.
I hope it's to eat.
CR

[firenresq77]

Art, I hope the pain doesn't take away from y'all having a good Christmas....... Get well soon, Brother

[JorieH]

Happy to hear from ya.

Have a happy, safe and pain free-if possible-Christmas! :)

[Rayr49]

Merry Christmas Art. May you have a speedy recovery.

Golf Season will be here before you know it.IACOJ

[jaybird210]

Glad to hear it, CR. Merry Chirstmas to you and your new knee!

We will be waiting for further updates!

[ChiefReason]

Monday, December 20, 2004
Kim and I left home at 7:00 am with me driving. We stopped in Knoxville, so she could have one of those scrumptious bacon, egg and cheese biscuits from Hardee's.
We arrived at the Surgicare Unit at 8:10 am., got checked in, and then was taken back to a pre-surgery suite, where I was instructed to take everything off and to get into the surgery gown. A nurse came in and was going to draw blood and install the IV catheter in my left hand and I told her that I had never had any luck on the left arm. She tried TWICE before giving up and putting it in my right on the very first try!
Dr. Driessnack, the surgeon, came in about 9:30am and told me that it would be eleven o'clock. He was going to sneak in an arthroscopy before me.
At 10:45 am, they wheeled me over to surgery, was getting it ready for me, and the anethesiologist came over and told me about the epidural/Fentanol combo that I would be getting. They sat me up on the gurnee and she rubbed my lower back with something very cold and abrasive. That was the last thing I remember until I was back in my room. My wife, Kim, son, Dustin, his fiancee, Amanda and my sister, Joyce were all there to greet me. That was at 5 o'clock pm. I spent a lot of time in the recovery room because they were trying to get the pain under control. Surgery lasted 2-1/2hours.
They had foot pumps on my feet, a perpetual motion machine on the right leg, tubes installed into my right leg to pump saline through it and pump it out, and I was on morphine drip. I was punching the button to deliver me my pain nectar like a hummingbird flapping its wings! Ouchee!
More later.
CR

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Merry Christmas, Art!

Soooooo you had morphine for your after-surgery-dinner? Not quite what you had in mind, was it :D

Good to hear from you, hope your recovery continues to go well and that your pain is manageable.

[firenresq77]

Art, if the pain meds aren't working, don't forget to take them with some alcohol!!;)

[Rainman4u2]

NO ART!!!!! I don't want to be taking any trips to Galesburg(or Peoria for that matter) with you in the back of the Ambulance. One very dark ale, and pain meds do not mix. Anyhow....it's good to hear that all went well, and hope to see you soon.

P.S. Word around the station is that the surgery will only take one or two strokes off of your game.:D

[RspctFrmCalgary]

:( It doesn't always turn out so rosy. Talking to dad yesterday morning and apparently my "ex-auntie" was in Germany to get both her knees done. Surgery went well, but it was in recovery that things went downhill, liver shut down and she almost lost her life. Something to do with the pain killers I think.

My youngest cousin, Julie, talked to her mom's doctor in Vancouver and then flew over yesterday. She wants her mom to be flown home but I don't think Julie understands that even on a medi-flight her mom won't be able to be moved anytime soon, for weeks even. Probably get just as good care there than here. Maybe better, considering all the horror stories in the news about some of BC's hospitals lately.

P.S. Word around the station is that the surgery will only take one or two strokes off of your game

Rainman .... you're funny! :D :D :D

[Rainman4u2]

I know my game sucks, but you should see CR play:D

[ChiefReason]

Let's see;
Who won the trophy last year?
OK;
here's a quick recap for the journal:
Went into the hospital on December 20th to have the right knee replaced. Discharged on December 23rd.
Went back to work on December 27th.
Have been going to therapy since December 30th. I can currently flex the knee to 80 degrees. Am walking with a cane. Have been driving since December 26th.
Got my staples (44) out of my 13 inch incision today. Ahhhhhh!
Therapy tomorrow.
Follow up visit with Dr. D on January 25th.
Things are going well.
CR

[Weruj1]

HOT DAMN !!!!

[jboczek]

CR, sounds great! Don't let the therapists know it hurts cause if it doesn't hurt, it's not doing any good.

[RspctFrmCalgary]

That's great news, glad your recovery is going well!

[Rayr49]

Great news on your progress. Harley riding and golf can't be far away.

[ullrichk]

Originally posted by jboczek
CR, sounds great! Don't let the therapists know it hurts cause if it doesn't hurt, it's not doing any good.

Amen, brother. PT stands for Pain and Torture. :D

Glas all is going well CR!

[jaybird210]

Beautiful. Let's get to the driving range!

[trainer]

Who won the trophay last year? Stacked team:rolleyes: :p :D

[Weruj1]

Hey ...........hows the knees ?

[ChiefReason]

Not bad. I still have alot of pain in the morning for some strange reason, but once I get up and on it, it feels better.
The left one is full of arthritis, so I have the problems associated with that, but I will put off having that one done until I can't tolerate it any longer.
When I sit, I can get almost 90 degrees bend in the new knee.
When I lay on my stomach and raise the leg, I can only get about 45 degrees.
Still alot of work ahead. But it's worth it.
Thanks for asking, Josh.
CR

[jboczek]

Sounds like you're making progress, that's good to hear. Just keep up the therapy and you'll be better than new come spring.

[80FIRE]

Art
Glad to hear you are getting along fine. I would imagine that all this wet, ucky weather may be making things a little more stiff and sore. Take care and don't over do it.

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

FORE !

[JorieH]

It's wonderful to hear you are doing well. :D Please keep us informed.

:D

[Weruj1]

uhmmmmmm hows this going ?

[ChiefReason]

I'm bending the knee at 90 degrees. I can take steps going up OK, but I still have to take them one at a time coming down.
I don't use anything for assistance. It feels very strong. Still get pain, especially at night and after therapy.
I see the doctor Tuesday. I think he will be very pleased with my progress.
13 inch scar healed very nicely.
CR

[ullrichk]

Originally posted by ChiefReason
Still get pain, especially at night and after therapy.


I'm sure your therapist is pleased! I think they live for that reaction. :D

[jboczek]

I did therapy on my wrist a few years ago. I'll never forget the words "tell me when it hurts so bad you can't take it any more".
CR, glad you're walking around on your own. Hopefully the pain will go away before the greens get green cause it sounds like you'll be ready to go soon.

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

It's hard to keep a good man down. Sounds like you are well on your way Art and I am glad damn to hear that.

[JorieH]

Wonderful it is going well!:D

[Weruj1]

and I am glad damn to hear that. me too gald damn t hear it ! :D :D Thats a good one Mikey !

[ChiefReason]

How ironic.
I did a search and Josh was the last one to post anything on my RIGHT knee.
Well, in less than 24 hours, I will be getting a new, proesthetic LEFT knee.
December 20 last year; December 19 this year. Trust me; it's not because I enjoyed the last time so much. I have been on a steady diet of Darvon for the past two months. I can't imagine going pain free and painkiller free. It will be most welcomed.
Not looking for sympathy; well, maybe a little, but I wanted you all to know that if I'm quiet for a few days, it is because I don't have a computer in the hospital. I might be able to sneak out to the nurse's station and use their's!
I can't wait. I probably won't sleep tonight. I have to be there to register by 5:30 am tomorrow morning.
I will be thinking of all of you. I also posted something on the flatlander page at IACOJ.
And at 8:00 am tomorrow morning, can you say a little something for me? They won't let me wear St. Florian into surgery and the saint is always around my neck. My wife has been instructed to get him back on me as soon as she sees me after surgery. I feel creepy not wearing it. I will also have Harley bear in the room with me. Mikey; I am taking the other "Dr." with me on my MP 3 player. You know; for dis, dat and duther!
Take care everyone.
CR

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

Dat Doctor is one cool cat. I don't think I would want him operating on my knees, but he can do a number on yer brain! Get well soon Art. I will keep you in my thoughts.

[Weruj1]

Art.......you kinda makin me tear up ...........yeah ..........I will say a prayer .........I wish you GREAT LUCK tomorrow !...and thanks for the search Art, I meant to do this earlier today and as per usaul got side tracked.

[Steamer]

I've not a doubt you're gonna breeze through this. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers for a quick recovery. I'm absolutely 100% serious that if you need anything, you aren't that far away. Say the word, and I'm there.

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Time sure flies, doesn't it?! :eek:

Definitely will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, Art.

[lilyogi]

Good Luck, I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers also! Stay Strong!!

[jaybird210]

Good Luck, Art!!

[PFire23]

CR,

Thinking of you and sending positive thoughts your way. :D

[SFDredhat126]

Best wishes on a speedy recovery.

[arhaney]

Ok, Jenn (PFire23) Talked with CR's lovely wife just a short while ago......and he is doing fine.

He came thru the surgery well, they had to do a lot of scraping but he's in less pain this time than he was last time.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you, Art. Hope to see you soon back on the boards!

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Thanks for the update, Alan. Good to hear it went well :)

[firebugfd105]

Good Luck on your recovery and Best Wishes.

[jaybird210]

CR, Are you conscious yet?

[ChiefReason]

CR, Are you conscious yet?
Hell, I'm at work!
One of my bosses had his right hip replaced ahead of me and he says he won't be back for another 3-4 weeks.
I think I broke his spirit when I told him I was going to the office today.
It hurts. So I figure...
Was Santa good to everyone?
CR

[jboczek]

Yeah, Santa was good. I finally got a DVD of Backdraft so I can watch it over and over and over and.......

CR, glad to hear you're up and about. It hurt before, too, so things shouldn't be that much different for you.

[Weruj1]

well Art ...........they should give you a bouns for NOT using sick time ............or are you just gearing up for the links ? (Glad you are upright and vertical).