FDNY radio terminology?

[firefiftyfive]

Right now I am a volly/buff hoping to get on the job in the next few years. So occasionally when I'm trying to put off writing a paper or something for school I listen to the FDNY dispatch and I am slightly confused on something. I'm sure one of you FDNY guys could help me out. The 10-14 code is for an engine that is lacking firefighters correct? And if there is a 3-2 response and a 10-14 engine, does that mean it is actually 4 engines or just 3 with one under staffed? I'm confused!

[E229Lt]

I'm confused!
Join the club!

[backdraft663]

There is a couple FDNY guys on here, I am sure they would be the best ones to talk to.

[HFDEXP777]

Originally posted by E229Lt

Join the club!

you know it's bad down there when one of the guys who has to use that radio gets confused by it!:p

[Lewiston2Capt]

Whats even worse is when he passed the lieutenants exam! :p :D ;)

Speaking of 10-14 is that getting any better for you Lt.? If you need I can lend a hand just gimme a call. :D

[E40FDNYL35]

10-14 Engine Company
Staffing levels on our engines are either 5 FF's and an officer, or 4 FF's and an officer depending on the company. If an engine responds with only 4 FF's to a reported structural fire, that company is said to be responding 10-14. When a company responds as such we assign an "additional 10-14 engine" to augment them. Only 1 additional 10-14 engine is added per initial alarm. Only a report of a structural fire gets an additional 10-14 engine.

2 engines & 1 truck (at a minimum) are now immediately dispatched (without 10-14 signal given) on the initial ticket for a single source reports of structural fires (SSRSF) A 2nd engine MUST be dispatched--every time! If either engine is a 4-FF engine, a 10-14 signal is given and a third engine must be immediately dispatched. This new policy results in 2 engines responding on the initial ticket all the time, and a 3rd engine 90% of the time--resulting in a huge advantage in getting water on the fire much more quickly than before.


An arbitration decision allowed the City to reduce to four the number of firefighters on certain engines beginning in 1990. However, this new protocol, called roster staffing, also promised 96 hours of overtime to each firefighter. Roster staffing overtime cost about $24 million annually.


:rolleyes:

[firefiftyfive]

Thanks , that clears it up!

[E229Lt]

Don't bet on it!

Ray, define single source?

[E40FDNYL35]

Originally posted by E229Lt
Don't bet on it!

Ray, define single source? a single source is 1 Phone call to 911 or directly to our dispatchers reporting a structural fire or a verbal by an FDNY unit in the field reporting a structural fire or ERS Box and the person must talk to a Dispatcher and report a structural fire.....

[E229Lt]

Why stop there? Isn't a Class 3 a single source structural?

[Lewiston2Capt]

I get the impression that this is a sore spot with you Lt. You can come ride with me anytime. Alot less action, but the commute isnt bad either.

[TCFire]

ERS = Emergency Reporting System. Saw one a long time ago. A street box, kind of looks like a pull box, but it allows the "caller" to talk directly to a dispatcher via a speaker on the box. If I remember correctly one hoped for benefit was to cut down on the bazillions of false alarms from the regular pull boxes.......I'm sure the FDNY guys would be able to comment on how successful that was.