Escape lines and harness - need info

[SCOOBY14B]

I am wanting to get a harness and escape line to carry for interior operations. I am wanting something like a "regular" rappelling harness to wear outside of gear, something I can leave on even with gear off.

As far as line, was gonna get about 50' of 8mm rope and a couple of biners.

I need some info of where to get it and good prices. Found some simple nylon harnesses which is fine for me, but need input if this is what others are using as well.

Thanks.

[MrFreeze]

so you're wanting something you can rappel with even if you don't have your gear on? I assume you want it outside your gear when you do use it(gear).

[resq27capt]

You might want to try here:
http://www.gemtor.com/rescue.htm#541

[SCOOBY14B]

Nah, only be using it on the outside of my gear. I have seen some FDNY members with a similar setup. I wont be using this to rappell with any other time.

Thanks

[Rescue101]

I use a 8mm x 35' with no harness,just drive a halligan in the Wall/window corner clip on the "biner wrap the rope around ya back under the bottom pak frame and sionata.Harness might not be a bad thing but it's not something I personally would want to wear all the time while the rope bag is small and always with me.Might want to ask Jim Crawford on the RIT forum,does a fantastic job on this subject.Again this is my preference based on hazards within my district.T.C.;)

[leatha4eva]

I have two suggestions, but they arent stuff that you would use for common repelling. The first is that Morning Pride has an option with their turnout gear to have a harness built into the bunker pants. This way, the harness and webbing is protected from the heat and abrasions it would face if it was worn outside the gear. My second sugggestion is called "The Last Chance Belt". It is a normal nylon webbing station belt that is load bearing and has a clip for a carabiner. I'm told they hurt on the way down, but so does burning. I have never used either of them in a situation, but I do own a last chance belt. I hope this helps.

steve

[heatmonger]

we use the gemtor harness but ony with gear on. you can order gear with loops to hold your harness on your bunkers or have them added on to your gear. harness is a little clumbsy at first but the more you wear it the easier it goes on.

[SCOOBY14B]

Where could I find some of these items?

How much can I expect to pay>?

[resq27capt]

Like heatomonger, we use the gemtor #541 on the "outside" of our gear-Morning Pride TOG with the harness attachment points on the outside shell of the bunker pants. It works well having the harness ready for quick deployment rappelling or to use as a ladder belt. That is why I posted the link to gemtor's page. I have seen a few other harnesses on the market that are just as good- at trade shows. As far as the attachment points on the bunker pants, I'm sure other mfgrs can do the same as Morning Pride. Finally, I paid $140. for the harness.

[Firescueguy]

Hey Scooby, check out www.fire-rescueoutfitters.com & click the Rapid Interventionl link where you'll be able to find rope bags with what you're looking for.

Briefly, the Personal Safety Rope Bag is available in 4 sizes (25, 35, 50 & 100') and comes loaded with a Nomex bag, 8mm NFPA rated one man rescue rope, an NFPA rated large locking carabiner (for anchor point), a small oval non locking carabiner (attached bag to SCBA) and a 2' edge guard to prevent chafing when bailing out. You can carry the bag in your bunker pants pocket (exposed web handle offers easy access) or wear it on your SCBA using the small biner. The bag provides you with means to perform search, self rescue & rapid intervention (2:1 mechanical advantage, hand cuff knots, etc.). Best of all, these bags are incredibly affordable!! :)

Hope this helps you out. Stay Safe.

[heatmonger]

scooby. a good place to keep your bail rope is in your turnout pants pocket. i keep mine on the right leg pocket with a caribiner attached. its always there when needed. i have 65' of rope in there. its amaizing how much you can get in those pockets. art