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Capez
01-15-1999, 11:58 PM
I'm just throwing out a discussion topic here, not getting down on my cadets their good kids. However should the explorer program be used as a social rehabilitation program for problem kids?

Lt. Alexis Capezza
Canton Fire & EMS
Post 911 Advisor

Tillerman
01-17-1999, 05:12 AM
Absolutely!! These are kids that if given some direction and some support can be good adults. This is a posotive enviroment with alot of encouragement. I dont believe that the explorers should be a punishment sent down by the courts, etc. but recruiting them is great. Feel free to email me with any questions. I was an explorer at post 2587 and held the chief position for 5 years and we had several "bad" kids and all are doing great working on becoming career firefighters.

Capez
01-17-1999, 02:54 PM
How do we keep problems like vandilism and theft at bay but still promote an atmosphere of freedom of thaught and action to encourage creative problem solving skills.
Lt. Alexis J. Capezza
Canton Volunteer Fire & EMS
Post 911 Advisor

Brian Book
01-19-1999, 08:25 PM
I think try it if it works keep it if it doesn't throw it out. We just say if you want to join, join it doesn't matter were you are from and what your backround is.


Cadet Captain Brian Book
Freeport Fire Dept

FF EMT 04011
01-21-1999, 07:58 PM
OK, here we go...

I dont have anything against socially troubled kids in this stuff, I think its great because they can Inadvertantly help the people of their town in a positive manner without being watched constantly. I think the Jr FD can help some kids have a certain amount of responsibility and the satisfaction of having worked in a team.

Heres where I draw the line (personally). I think that Depts. should be careful on accepting kids that have been forced into the field, then letting them loose on the fireground. If they can learn the stuff and are positive about, all the more power, who knows, maybe youll change a life of crime into a life of helping others.

Stay Cool and Safe



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Dana A Kennedy
Junior Firefighter/EMT
Brunswick Fire Department
Brunswick, Maine, USA

Capez
01-21-1999, 08:28 PM
The trouble is that even with security measures and direct supervision these kids don't seem to be interested in fire fighting. Their here to sociallize in thier clicks. that's why we get groups of kids joining at once. I'm not doing this to run a social rehabilitation program for under privilaged youth. I'm here to train the next generation of fire fighters and EMTs. The origional question was am I taking the right approach to this program. The common answer seems to be no, i should be running a social rehab program instead of , what in essence is, a prep school for future fire fighters and EMTs.

Lt. Alexis J. Capezza
Canton Fire & EMS.
Post 911
Cadet Acvisor

Tillerman
01-24-1999, 06:47 PM
Capez, Yes this is a prep class for future firefighters but it is also a social group. Think of your involvement with the fire department. Is it strictly buisness?? or do you have banquets, nights of drinking with the boys. Yes it should be a prep course but not strictly. Good luck with your future members. Remember to keep it fun and interesting for all. Also another point I need to make is there are various jobs in the fire service and holding the line is about 10% of it so remember the other 90%.

BCFD761
01-31-1999, 12:21 PM
I AM GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE TAKING AN INTREST IN R=THE YOUTH OF AMERICA, AS AN EXPLORER ADVISOR I HAVE HAD GREAT JOY WATCHING SOME EXPLORERS LEARN THE BASICS OF F.F AND TAKE IT FURTHER BY BECOMING VOLUNTEER F.F.. CAREER F.F. EMT, AND PARAMEDICS.

I DO BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE, FOR EVERYONE THAT I MENTIONED ABOVE, THERE ARE SOME WHO JUST DIDNT QUITE MAKE IT, BUT THEY WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, EVERYONE AT LEAST DESERVES THAT.

DAVE DEVORE
BUCK CREEK TWP.
ASST. FIRE CHIEF
ADVISOR MEMBER EXPOLRER POST 473