View Full Version : How does your department do Personel Accountabilty?
UncleJack
07-27-1999, 07:17 PM
How does your deparment handle personel accountability on the fireground, the department that I am Associated with just began a program and I wanted to hear how it could be improved.
bechereg
07-28-1999, 08:50 AM
Each FF is issued small plastic tags whic are velcroed inside there helmet. When assigned to a truck, one goes on a board within the truck. This board can then be passed on to the appropriate command officer. Each FF keeps 3 tags on the helmet. We (Quantico MCAF ARFF) copied this system from Prince William County, Virginia Fire. It works good for us.
Ed
PTFD21
07-28-1999, 10:09 AM
Our department uses laminated tags designed by Clemens (I think that is how you spell it.) The tags have your name, ID #, and inside they contain medical info.( in case you get sent to the hospital they have your info. (doctor,allergies to meds., history, etc.. )They alos have an assignment board which the tags can be clipped on to track assignments.
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T.D / 1122
07-28-1999, 01:06 PM
Accountibility is a glorious thing when it is done right!
We have a tag board on the wall at each station that has all personnel attached to it (velcro). Each person has two tags under his/her respected company. All apparatus have two (4"x6" I think) plastic tag boards on them (one red, one white) that are engraved with the apparatus type and number at the top (E-11-1, L-11-1, ect.) They also have Officer, Driver, and Firefighter as well. One tag is put on each board under the correct title. If the call is ours then the white board is used and is given to accountability sector. If it is a mutual aide call then the red board is used and given to accountibility as well. Being a combination department we also issue two red tags to all personnel. These tags are used to signify that the individual has responded "POV". He/She will report to accountibility and then be assigned a task by command and put on the proper board! All boards are organized on the master board, which is a big board where times, task, sector, ect. can be written and kept track of. We keep a accountability kit on all apparatus that includes a grease pencil to write with and misc. task boards! This system has worked very well for us as well as for the surrounding depts. Only problem I've noticed is the red tags kept under the helmet get burnt from time to time! The only thing I would like to do different is maybe put some medical info on the tags!.. Good Luck! I'll shut my pie hole now!
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ricky
07-28-1999, 10:04 PM
Uncle Jack
td1121 just gave you an overview of our accountability system. I got you snail mail address today and I will mail you the written procedure.
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nbfd131
08-01-1999, 06:14 PM
We also use the system like the one mentioned by Bechereg. We all get 3 velcro tags with name, dept number, and rank. There are 3 velcro tag holders on the rig. Obviously, each tag goes on one holder. One holder stays in the truck, one goes to the IC, and one stays with the company officer. All tags are right side up except for the driver whos tag is upside down so they are identified. It is actually an easy system to use once you get used to it.
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Gregg
Paul Grimwood
08-01-1999, 08:24 PM
Just for interest - the London Fire Brigade in England have run two accountabilty systems for the past 35 years. One entails a small (6 x 4") board that sits in the front cab of the engine/truck and lists the names of every crew member riding the vehicle that shift. This board is handed into a mobile control system at the outset of mutual aid operations, giving a complete picture of who is on scene.
Where firefighters are committed within a structure wearing masks, they hand in a plastic tag to a control officer on entering the structure (always 2 in 2 out rule). This tag carries information related to Name; cylinder pressure; and time entering building. This is then placed on a control board and tables and formula are used to estimate an average time before the crew should run out of air. If they are not out of the structure within 10 minutes of reaching that time an emergency crew is sent in to locate them. Comm's equipment is used by about 20 percent of crews entering - the emergency crew will have a comm's link with the control board officer. This system has saved many lives at major fires where crews have become trapped or lost.
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robert h. fields
10-04-1999, 07:13 PM
our accountability sort of goes like this:
After a fire and they see everyone is back at the firehouse every one is accounted for!
We lost one of our own a few years ago and have not learned any lessons.
Any one out there w/some advice on how to convince the chief and city administrators that things like this are needed,I would greatly appreciate feed back!
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