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DFD271
09-05-2008, 10:57 PM
I am currently attempting to establish an Industrial Fire Brigade at a small organic chemical plant where I am the ESH manager. My problem is that senior management doesn’t quite understand what is involved. I have been searching for what other companies pay extra for membership in a company’s industrial fire brigade. I am a volunteer member of our City combination department who has primary responsibility for the plant. The industrial brigade’s intended mission is for immediate personnel rescue and support of the City Department. Any feedback is appreciated

arff42
09-08-2008, 12:25 PM
I am currently attempting to establish an Industrial Fire Brigade at a small organic chemical plant where I am the ESH manager. My problem is that senior management doesn’t quite understand what is involved. I have been searching for what other companies pay extra for membership in a company’s industrial fire brigade. I am a volunteer member of our City combination department who has primary responsibility for the plant. The industrial brigade’s intended mission is for immediate personnel rescue and support of the City Department. Any feedback is appreciated

Where are you located?

Is it possible to go beyond fire brigade and start up your own fire department. I worked for a brigade at a Boeing Plant and it was very limited as far as what we could do. Being a chemical plant, do you really want to wait for outside agencies to show up before you fight the fire. I would think a chemical fire needs to be fought NOW. As a fire brigade you are not allowed to fight fire beyond the incipient stage. Maybe I am wrong.

If you are not talking about a full-time staffed fire department, I know Chevron Refinery has a group of highly trained employees who carry pagers during there normal work operations. When they are dispatched to an emergency, they drop what they are doing and respond. This is in addition to a staffed fire department.

Stay safe,

Kevin

TechRescue41
09-15-2008, 06:59 AM
DFD; I was in a simialr position for one of the Big Three. Try taking a look at a FEMA grant. Your team may be able to get funding for both training and wages based on the specifc nature of what your team is covering in the community and impact it could have if a incident were to occur.

For immediate leverage read through OSHA guidelines as there is specific language that will assist your effort with management. At a minimum you may be able to establish an internal Emergency Response / Rescue Team that gets compensated for each run and O.T. for training.

guardo83
09-16-2008, 10:27 AM
Are you trying to start an ERT where the members come from all over the plant off there plant related jobs to respond, or are you looking to start full time responders?

The mill I work at has both, I'm a full time responder on a crew of four. We also have an ERT where members in the mill are working in production, and in case of need we page them out. MFR's, Fire Brigade, Rope/Rescue, and Hazmat. Compensation for the teams is a $100 Gift certificate, but you must attend all training for that team. If you are on multiple teams, you still only get $100, not $100 per team.

Lewie1
09-18-2008, 08:04 PM
Send me an e-mail or a PM and I'll forward my recognition program for our ERT members in a chemical plant. All members are production first and ERT second and are well compensated for their training.

firedogross
09-29-2008, 11:41 PM
I work for DuPont, Chambers Works, NJ. We have an Industrial Fire Brigade which is made up of volunteers. We recieve 1200 dollars 1 time a year for being an active member and attending monthly shift training.

1fyrboy
10-03-2008, 09:17 AM
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table= STANDARDS&p_id=9810

http://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/oshasoft/softfirex.html

pulpmillert
10-07-2008, 07:41 AM
Our ert members are compensated by an hourly increase and also have the chance to earn a yearly bonus by staying current on certifications. We have handle our own medical (BLS), fire, rescue and haz-mat teams. We are to far out to relly on the paid dept. and hospital from town and the volunteer units in the area are good but not staffed to handle us. We do have a mutal aid agreement with them though.

bum291
11-11-2008, 10:10 AM
I previously worked at a paper mill that had 3 full time employed chiefs that doubled as safety inspectors at the factory. They have over 20 guys on the list that are employes in the factory who are summoned in the event of fire or other alarm. Training is done during paid working hours + free lunch, so that was no problem for anyone. They don't recive any extra money for doing firefighting, but most people are happy to get away from the dull daily patterns at the factory. And when responding from home, they also get sallary for the time they spend and their miles covered.