Obama. Maybe They Should Grow A Thicker Skin?

[MalahatTwo7]

Political cartoons have been around even before the invention of the printing press. Britain is famous for its political satire, and Canada does a pretty good job sometimes too.

Obama Camp Outraged At Magazine Cover. 'New Yorker' Image Depicts Obama As Muslim, A Wife As Terrorist

POSTED: 9:20 am EDT July 14, 2008
UPDATED: 9:56 am EDT July 14, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama's campaign has denounced a New Yorker magazine cover showing the Democratic presidential candidate dressed as a Muslim and his wife as a terrorist as "tasteless and offensive."

The magazine's editor called the cover a work of satire.

The illustration on the issue that hits newsstands Monday, titled "The Politics of Fear" and drawn by Barry Blitt, depicts Barack Obama wearing traditional Muslim garb -- sandals, robe and and head dress. His wife, Michelle, is drawn dressed in camouflage, combat boots and an assault rifle strapped over her shoulder.

The couple is doing a fist bump in front of a fireplace in which an American flag is burning. Over the mantle hangs a portrait of Osama bin Laden.

"The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Sen. Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton. "But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree."

The magazine's editor, David Remnick, said in a statement to the Daily News in New York that he was surprised by the reaction.

The cover "combines a number of fantastical images about the Obamas and shows them (the images) for the obvious distortions they are," he said.

"Satire is part of what we do, and it is meant to bring things out into the open, to hold up a mirror to the absurd," Remnick said.

Republican John McCain's campaign spokesman, Tucker Bonds, agreed that the cover was "tasteless and offensive."

Alrea dy, the cover was generating controversy on the Internet.

The Huffington Post, a left-leaning blog, said: "Anyone who's tried to paint Obama as a Muslim, anyone who's tried to portray Michelle as angry or a secret revolutionary out to get Whitey, anyone who has questioned their patriotism -- well, here's your image."

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press.

The first image is from NBC4 news, the other two are British, from the 18th century or there abouts.

[JonathanG]

Obama needs to lighten up. It's not our fault his true intentions have been depicted on a magazine cover. But seriously, if he can't take a small political jab on a magazine, he can't run one of the most criticized countries in the world..

What a joke.

[jlcooke3]

Poor fella, somebody hurt his little feelings. Awww.:rolleyes: Who gives a ****? This isn't the first time that the Obama campaign has denouced something that shows Obama in anything that may be regarded as a "bad" light. Anytime somebody picks on the Obama's they are haters, racist, right wing, tasteless, or are just plain old bad people out to just hurt other people's feelings. Grow a pair people.

[scfire86]

Poor fella, somebody hurt his little feelings. Awww.:rolleyes: Who gives a ****? This isn't the first time that the Obama campaign has denouced something that shows Obama in anything that may be regarded as a "bad" light. Anytime somebody picks on the Obama's they are haters, racist, right wing, tasteless, or are just plain old bad people out to just hurt other people's feelings. Grow a pair people.
It's what is needed to win. Kerry ignored his critics and it can be argued it cost him the election.

Successful campaigns always respond to their critics immediately.

[MalahatTwo7]

Successful campaigns always respond to their critics immediately.

Umm.. no not always. Just when the rebuttle is worth the effort. Something about "don't sweat the small stuff" comes to mind. Or maybe "pick your battles".

Immediate response to all criticsm eventually makes you look like a cry baby.

[firefuss]

Wait wait wait... Obama ISN'T a Muslim? ....interesting...

[superchef]

I see it for what it is, political satire and freedom of press. Politicians have been the subject of satire since Roman Times. I guess the Obama campaign was hoping he would be satired as JFK. :rolleyes:

[scfire86]

Umm.. no not always. Just when the rebuttle is worth the effort. Something about "don't sweat the small stuff" comes to mind. Or maybe "pick your battles".

Immediate response to all criticsm eventually makes you look like a cry baby.
Not in the YouTube and internet era. Love him or hate him, but Clinton had an entire operation devoted to instantaneous rebuttals or counterattacks during his campaign. As did Bush the idiot. Their opponents did not. Who won and who lost?

A candidate ignores even the slightest attack at their own peril.

You may disagree, but you're not the one running for office.

[Bones42]

If the "point" of the picture has to be explained...then it was a bad choice.

[77MackCF]

Poor fella, somebody hurt his little feelings. Awww. Who gives a ****? This isn't the first time that the Obama campaign has denouced something that shows Obama in anything that may be regarded as a "bad" light. Anytime somebody picks on the Obama's they are haters, racist, right wing, tasteless, or are just plain old bad people out to just hurt other people's feelings. Grow a pair people.


Here's the answer: Who gives a f*** is well, noone around here :D , well maybe scfire, but he's "unique." :p

If he got elected and the Press started doing this to him, I'd bet my money that they're would be a ban of free press. No doubt the Lefty Supreme Court would support him as would Congress (for proof see below). Our downfall to Communism would begin as soon as he (or another democrat somewhere down the line, unless they're like JFK) would be elected President. CORRECTION: He'd use the word "President", but himself and Congress would work as dictators.

Mike

[Firemedic 61]

Can't wait for the cartoon of Jesse Jackson cutting off Obama's nuts!

[scfire86]

Here's the answer: Who gives a f*** is well, noone around here :D , well maybe scfire, but he's "unique." :p

If he got elected and the Press started doing this to him, I'd bet my money that they're would be a ban of free press. No doubt the Lefty Supreme Court would support him as would Congress (for proof see below). Our downfall to Communism would begin as soon as he (or another democrat somewhere down the line, unless they're like JFK) would be elected President. CORRECTION: He'd use the word "President", but himself and Congress would work as dictators.

Mike
Pretty funny Mike. Keep up the good work. You throw so many hypotheticals out there that you mock your own points.

[jasper45]

Can't wait for the cartoon of Jesse Jackson cutting off Obama's nuts!


Honestly, I don't ever want to see Obama's balls. :p ;)

[doughesson]

Politicians.If you rendered the lot of them,you wouldn't skim off a thimble full of scruples.
Obama may be upset at how close the cartoon hits home but kvetching about it is only making people wonder just how much of it really IS true and how much isn't."He wouldn't be so upset if it weren't true."
The interesting thing I find is that the New Yorker is usually a liberal rag so why the cartoon that runs down one of their own?

[DaSharkie]

It is typical of the media and the left of this nation. They can say and do whatever they want, but you better not criticise them for their own actions.

Obama and his campaign can't take a little humor - because he cannot fathom satire and someone thinking other than that he is the greatest potential political leader in the world.

Never say anything bad about a Democrat or liberal.....lest you feel the wrath of them. But stand by for their thoughts of you.

I have found that many liberals (I dare say most that I have met) will say freedom of speech is great - but cannot tolerate it when you disagree with them. When you do, very shortly after insults are resorted to. And don't ever introduce facts to many of them...........

[rhvfd1214]

Obama who????

[ThNozzleman]

I see it for what it is, political satire and freedom of press.
Except it wasn't satire. Satire finds humor in the shortcomings or problems of others. No part of the illustration in question shows any such thing about Obama. Every reference the cartoon makes is patently false. This cartoon was a feebleminded attempt to show the ignorance and stupidity of the those on the right who hold and spread such nonsense and misinformation, such as Fox News' "terrorist fist jab" and the angry black woman who hates her country.
But seriously, if he can't take a small political jab on a magazine, he can't run one of the most criticized countries in the world..
Has anyone here even watched Obama's response on Larry King Live? He could care less about this tripe.
How ironic that the idiots on the right are laughing so much about a cartoon in which its only intent is to show how stupid they are. :rolleyes:

[DaSharkie]

Noz, I agree that this cartoon was not specifically about Obama, but about those that have incorrect feelings about him.

But why are teh Dems/Libs so defensive about it?

As for Obama's statements about it not bothering him, of course he can say that - the rest of his PR staff and supporters are saying the opposite.

He is just another politician, no different than anyone else. Despite what he says.

[ChiefKN]

But why are teh Dems/Libs so defensive about it?

Because, regardless of what they say, they want to control your speech.

[ChiefKN]

Unbelievable... can we now start ignoring Jesse Jackson, please?

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Jackson Also Used N-Word in Taped Conversation Critical of Obama
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, July 17, 2008

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A FOX News camera captured the Rev. Jesse Jackson uttering the N-word while he was preparing to tape an interview earlier this month, a word he has denounced publicly as degrading to African Americans.

FOX News’ host Bill O’Reilly revealed the details on Wednesday, saying that he wanted to lay to rest reports based on news leaks.

Appearing on “Studio B With Shepard Smith,” Smith asked O’Reilly if Jackson’s remarks included the N-word, as some news reports had indicated.

“Yeah. And it’s trash talking,” O’Reilly said.

One media news Web site, TVNewser, reported that Jackson’s comment came when he was discussing Obama, saying the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee is “talking down to black people,” and, TVNewser reported, “telling n—–s how to behave.”

FOX News aired a portion of the tape last week where Jackson was criticizing Obama because they were deemed newsworthy. O’Reilly said the N-word was not deemed so, because it “did not advance the story in one way shape or form.”

In the portion that aired, Jackson said he would cut Obama’s “n-ts off,” referring to his dispute with Obama over faith-based initiatives.

“I’m not in the business of hurting Jesse Jackson — because it does hurt Jesse Jackson — and I’m not in the business of creating some kind of controversy that’s not relevant to the general subject: one civil rights leader disparaging another over policy. So we held it back. Some weasel leaked it to the Internet,” O’Reilly said.

O’Reilly told Smith there was nothing more of value to the interview tape.

“That’s all I have. … .You’ve got everything now.”

Jackson has been vocal about the use of the N-word, saying it is hurtful to the black community.

For instance, after a November 2006 rant by “Seinfeld” star Michael Richards during a stand-up routine laden with the N-word, Jackson joined other black leaders to challenge the entertainment industry to stop using the slur. He also called for a boycott of the “Seinfeld” DVD series that was coming out because of Richards’ use of the slur.

“We want to give our ancestors a present,” Jackson said at a news conference at the time. “Dignity over degradation.”

Jackson — who is traveling in Spain — apologized in a statement Wednesday for “hurtful words” but didn’t offer specifics.

“I am deeply saddened and distressed by the pain and sorrow that I have caused as a result of my hurtful words. I apologize again to Senator Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, their children as well as to the American public,” Jackson said in a written statement. “There really is no justification for my comments and I hope that the Obama family and the American public will forgive me. I also pray that we, as a nation, can move on to address the real issues that affect the American people.”

A spokeswoman for Jackson’s civil rights organization, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, said she could not confirm that Jackson used the slur.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/17/jackson-also-used-n-word-in-taped-conversation-critical-of-obama/

[MalahatTwo7]

Satire finds humor in the shortcomings or problems of others

Noz, we all know that like beauty, humour is in the eye of the beholder. Not saying it was right or wrong - only that it "Is".

[doughesson]

It's a liberal scandal sheet cutting him down.I'm not sure how this works but they can dish it out but can't take it.
This issue is kind of like a snake eating itself.


It is typical of the media and the left of this nation. They can say and do whatever they want, but you better not criticise them for their own actions.

Obama and his campaign can't take a little humor - because he cannot fathom satire and someone thinking other than that he is the greatest potential political leader in the world.

Never say anything bad about a Democrat or liberal.....lest you feel the wrath of them. But stand by for their thoughts of you.

I have found that many liberals (I dare say most that I have met) will say freedom of speech is great - but cannot tolerate it when you disagree with them. When you do, very shortly after insults are resorted to. And don't ever introduce facts to many of them...........

[ThNozzleman]

Noz, we all know that like beauty, humour is in the eye of the beholder. Not saying it was right or wrong - only that it "Is".
Right or wrong is not my issue; my point is that the cartoon is not meant to satire the Obamas, but rather the ignorance and arrogance of the right who apparently are too stupid to figure it out on their own.

[ThNozzleman]

I'm not sure how this works but they can dish it out but can't take it.

Oh, yeah...unlike the wailing that commences from the right when someone dare question how getting shot down and being held prisoner for several years automatically makes one a better president. The right loves to rant and rave about Michelle Obama and all her alleged anger and nation-hating, but let someone bring up Cindy McCain's stealing from a charity to support her drug habit and suddenly that's off limits. The difference? What the right says about the Obamas is a flat out lie. Cindy McCain has indeed stolen from charity to support her drug addiction.
You guys just kill me. Nobody, and I mean nobody whines and cries more than the right. A quick search of these forums bears that out quick enough.

[doughesson]

Nobody, and I mean nobody whines and cries more than the right. A quick search of these forums bears that out quick enough.


Obama was crying because the big bad mean Fox Network(one whole channel) was calling his wife to task on her statements that she made on his behalf.It would be a legitimate gripe if she'd been talking about her favorite cookie recipe and Sean Hannity said he preferred pecans and not walnuts.(That hateful basstid,huh?)
However,she's been out talking about her husband's intentions after his election and that makes her fair game.If you don't want your wife and kids scruntinized by the media,then don't put them out in public saying"My husband will be the best President this country's ever had because...." or "My Daddy will make the best President this country's ever had because....".If you don't,they retain their "civilian" status as Obama claims but if you do send them out to campaign for you,it is only reasonable that they be looked at as to the veracity of their statements.
As to Mrs.McCain's drug use,I've never heard of that before.I watch as many different channels to avoid getting one side but missed that one.Maybe it got covered two months ago when I was in a hospital recovering from anesthesia a lot.

[MalahatTwo7]

Truth be told, I didnt hear anything about Ms McCain either. And we all know how much news surfing I do, and that I dont much care about which source supports who or what.

[ThNozzleman]

As to Mrs.McCain's drug use,I've never heard of that before.I watch as many different channels to avoid getting one side but missed that one.
No! You must have missed it during the two weeks of the media blathering on about the "terrorist fist jab", huh? Or during the neverending yapping about Michell Obama hating her country, perhaps.
Well, it isn't hard to find...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Hensley_McCain
But you see, she was just a poor, innocent little rich girl, who became unintentionally dependent on prescription pain pills to ease her unbearable pain and stress due to her husband's dirty dealings. It's not like she was some low class, "baby mama" (a term used by Fox News to describe Michelle Obama) user on the street who takes drugs because they're criminals. No, rich people like her and Rush need our sympathy and understanding as they struggle through their difficult recovery in posh rehab centers. Common criminals of the lower class deserve to spend at least ten years in prison for theft and drug abuse.
However,she's been out talking about her husband's intentions after his election and that makes her fair game.
Eh? What part about discussing Obama's plans if he becomes president entitles the right to begin slandering her?

[ThNozzleman]

Truth be told, I didnt hear anything about Ms McCain either. And we all know how much news surfing I do, and that I dont much care about which source supports who or what.
That's my point; it hasn't been mentioned by the mainstream media. Imagine the ruckus that would be made over at Fox if it were found out that Michelle Obama once stole money from the Ronald McDonald House to buy cocaine. Think that would make the Fox "news"?

[DaSharkie]

That's my point; it hasn't been mentioned by the mainstream media. Imagine the ruckus that would be made over at Fox if it were found out that Michelle Obama once stole money from the Ronald McDonald House to buy cocaine. Think that would make the Fox "news"?

And? Addicition does horrible things to people. She repaired the issue and by all accounts is apparently clean now.

This is the failure of the "mainstream media" to not divulge this. If asked, there would probably be no political spin on it from her - the campaign may be different.

Her life is her life, unless she chooses to make it publid - as Michelle Obama chose to do by making incredibly stupid statements for a person campaigning for her husband to be POTUS - just as Theresa Heinz-Kerry did in 2004.

Drug abuse is drug abuse and I don't care if it is the crack whore on the street or some spoiled little rich girl. No tolerance for drug use in any way, shape, or form. At least she got clean.

Should it be an issue? Why not, it makes her just like thousands and thousands of people across this country. This was 20 years ago - just as GWB's drug and alcohol abuse was 20+ years before he ran for POTUS. So what? No different than Obama's using drugs when he was younger.

If no one knows about it, it is the media's fault. It is the reporters JOB and RESPONSIBILITY to ensure that facts and truth are reported. This is not a big deal since it is obviously not a secret.

[DaSharkie]

Eh? What part about discussing Obama's plans if he becomes president entitles the right to begin slandering her


Nothing. But it is her statements made twice in 1 day to 2 different groups of people that make it fodder and call into question her own actions.

[scfire86]

Should it be an issue? Why not, it makes her just like thousands and thousands of people across this country. This was 20 years ago - just as GWB's drug and alcohol abuse was 20+ years before he ran for POTUS. So what? No different than Obama's using drugs when he was younger.

So why did the right wing noise machine make such a big deal out of Clinton's marijuana use that was 20+ younger?

That is why our campaigns have devolved to the present level. Now you're saying actions from that far back in one's history have no bearing on the present day person. Which I agree.

I get a HUGE laugh out of listening to the conservatives that bemoaned the lack of character in Clinton due to infidelity yet have overlooked the exact same trait in McCain. Now that is a laff riot.

[DaSharkie]

So why did the right wing noise machine make such a big deal out of Clinton's marijuana use that was 20+ younger?

Because that is politics. The biggest deal was his incredibly stupid lie about not inhaling.

Also recall that marijuana has been illegal for decades (on about 100 years now I believe), whereas Mrs. McCain's addiction was precipitated by a common medication given for post surgical pain. This happens all the time, which is why I am quite stingy when it comes to prescribing my narcotics while working. Consider that a Percocet pill goes for $40 a pill in the city I work in.......

That is why our campaigns have devolved to the present level. Now you're saying actions from that far back in one's history have no bearing on the present day person. Which I agree.

Political campaigns are a bunch of crap. These politicians appeal to the extremes of their parties, so they say what will get them elected. McCain and Obama are no different.

I get a HUGE laugh out of listening to the conservatives that bemoaned the lack of character in Clinton due to infidelity yet have overlooked the exact same trait in McCain. Now that is a laff riot.

And I see it here in Massachusetts where Bob Packwood was lambasted and run out of office for his actions. Yet we have a Democrat state senator who is in "treatment" for "bipolar disorder" after accosting and sexually molesting no fewer than 7 women over the past 3 months. Yet the Democrat legislature, democratic party, and his constituents in a VERY liberal community outside of Boston (aren't they all?) say there is no problem with his actions.

The point being that the hypocracy exists on both sides of the aisle, and few here acknowledge it. Noz goes nuts and never addresses anything about Democrats, and you rarely do. The Right can only do wrong.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1107391

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view/2008_07_15_James_Marzilli_pane l_ouster_denied/

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1105977


The greatest hypocracy is that his wife works for a women's advocacy group. But this is alright since he is a liberal, and in Massachusetts Liberals can do nothing wrong.

[scfire86]

Because that is politics. The biggest deal was his incredibly stupid lie about not inhaling.

I guess that makes it okay. What a load.

[MalahatTwo7]

Well my guess, the source: Wikipedia.

Wikipedia hasn't exactly done a lot with their search engine to garner much of my interest or trust, because it never gives anything useful. Not much beyond repeating itself, mostly anyhow. :(

But then, thats just one person's observation.

[scfire86]

The Right can only do wrong.

Given the train wreck of the Bush administration, I am glad to see we agree on something.

[neiowa]

These politicians appeal to the extremes of their parties, so they say what will get them elected. McCain and Obama are no different.


Well not exactly in this cycle. With Osamabama, during the primaries he worked the extreme radical leftwingers - See Moveon.org, Soros, Huffington, etc and locally scfire and nozzle.

With McCain, an guy who all along has been working the extreme left wing (the RINOs) of the Republican party (the "I'm conservative on this one thing but not these" crowd), the middle of the road Dems and the spinelss can't make a decision "independents" with his "can't we all get along" claptrap.

So we have a RINO "Republican" that looks/acts like a traditional modern Democrat, out of the JFK (minus the broads and drugs) playbook, and a inexperienced, unqualified, pansy Stalinist "Democrat" as our presidental options. What a choice.

Not, by a long shot, a typicial campaign year.

[DaSharkie]

Given the train wreck of the Bush administration, I am glad to see we agree on something.

Don't be stupid. It is not becoming of you.

[scfire86]

Not, by a long shot, a typicial campaign year.
Thanks to Bush and Co the conservative movement has been temporarily demolished. While everyone was fixated on Obama's lack of a lapel flag pin few noticed the GOP candidate to emerge is the least conservative of the bunch. The movement which spawned intellectual bulwarks such as Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative (a very good political read btw), has dissolved into shrill missives like How to Talk to A Liberal (If You Must). Given how Bush's administration can not point to one reasonable success, it is no wonder the GOP is stuck with a candidate who is at best a long shot.

[DaSharkie]

the GOP is stuck with a candidate who is at best a long shot.

Not exactly a long shot, but they could have done a lot better. McCain has caused a lot consternation with Republicans for years.

Obama isn't exactly the greatest either.

Quite sad that we get stuck with the 2 party system. Either way we get one fo two choices. A lackluster Republican POTUS with a pathetic congress (whose approval rating is lower than Bush's - actually worsened since the Dems took "control.") or a "hopeful" Democrat with a pathetic congress that will perform no checks or balances against him.

Please excuse my lack of excitement for either prospect.

[scfire86]

Please excuse my lack of excitement for either prospect.
Your lack of excitement doesn't change your choice.

[DaSharkie]

Your lack of excitement doesn't change your choice.

Sure it does. I need a good candidate who is not in left field and actually makes sense. Neither do it for me. And just because the 2 parties give me these two lackluster candidates does not mean that I have to go with them.

That is the crux of the issue. This election will be as close as the last 2, I feel becaue of it.

[MalahatTwo7]

That is the crux of the issue. This election will be as close as the last 2, I feel becaue of it.

I wonder if we will see another Florida (Election) Incident because of this?

[scfire86]

That is the crux of the issue. This election will be as close as the last 2, I feel becaue of it.
I predict just the opposite. By recent standards (Bush's whopping 2.5% win in 2004) Obama will blow out McCain. More than 5 points.

[ChiefKN]

I predict just the opposite. By recent standards (Bush's whopping 2.5% win in 2004) Obama will blow out McCain. More than 5 points.

I think that there will be something damaging about Obama in the near future released to the media.

That's why Hillary is sticking around.... heck, the clintonistas will probably release the information (whatever it is).

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

He is just another politician, no different than anyone else. Despite what he says.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[MalahatTwo7]

I think that there will be something damaging about Obama in the near future released to the media.

That's why Hillary is sticking around.... heck, the clintonistas will probably release the information (whatever it is).

Maybe its just the cynic in my, but truth be known, I have sort of been expecting something of exactly that sort to come to light. I thought there might have been something when that bit with his Pastor came to light, but that turned pretty tame/lame in the end.

[ChiefKN]

Maybe its just the cynic in my, but truth be known, I have sort of been expecting something of exactly that sort to come to light. I thought there might have been something when that bit with his Pastor came to light, but that turned pretty tame/lame in the end.

I'm not a conspiracy nut (truly!), but when Hillary stopped her campaign and didn't really concede... seems she was leaving her option open right to the convention. It got me wondering.

[Emberxx]

Right or wrong is not my issue; my point is that the cartoon is not meant to satire the Obamas, but rather the ignorance and arrogance of the right who apparently are too stupid to figure it out on their own.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who finds it ironic that the very people who the satire is pointed at simply don't get it.

I've heard every single one of those rumors that were very pointedly shown on the New Yorker cover vehemently preached at me as truth (backed up, of course, with enough yelling and table thumping to make any Fire and Brimstone preacher proud).

And yet when I ask to see proof of these 'truths' the result is usually an unintelligible mumble followed by a curse about my being a ~insert shocked gasp~ liberal.

Funny thing is - I'm a registered Republican who's voted on that side of the aisle every time I've had the chance.

That said, as a voter I feel it's my duty to look a bit further and deeper than chain emails as a source of information about the candidates.

[ChiefKN]

I've heard every single one of those rumors that were very pointedly shown on the New Yorker cover vehemently preached at me as truth (backed up, of course, with enough yelling and table thumping to make any Fire and Brimstone preacher proud).

WHAT!!?!!?

Those things aren't true?

:D

[txgp17]

http://conchtees.com/shirt/obamunism/obamunism_female.gif

[scfire86]

http://conchtees.com/shirt/obamunism/obamunism_female.gif
It was only a matter of time before you invoked Godwin's Law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law)

[txgp17]

It was only a matter of time before you invoked Godwin's Law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law)First off, I didn't call him a Nazi. If you would quit trying to put words in other people's mouths, this wouldn't be so painful for you.

And I didn't invoke anything, Obama did it to himself when he slipped up and told the truth about how he feels about taxation. The truth hurts doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSRcXM


And that's not a law. It's a theory. The fact of you not knowing the difference is no surprise.

What's even more hilarious is the fact that you're using ideas of a lawyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Godwin) from San Francisco, CA to defend the gaff of the most left-wing Homosapien to run for President in 219 years.

New jobs are not created by taking money from the pockets of those people most responsible for a business's existence. Obama's idea of how an economy works is as perverted as yours is.Because in order for the people doing the work to be able to buy things they need to be paid a wage that will allow them to do just that.There's an old slogan about "no taxation without representation." Obama wants to take it a step further by providing the converse; representation without taxation.

[DFDMAXX]

It was only a matter of time before you invoked Godwin's Law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law)

Wow, deja vu

http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=87736